Smokeless Image Volt X2 & Volt 78mm batteries full of e-liquid?

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julieah3

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Hello ECF Folks,

I've been vaping for about 6 months and still have lots to learn but I've done a fair amount of newbie reading. I will search for detailed information on my question but I thought some of you might provide some insight or opinions.

The second starter kit I bought was the Smokeless Image Volt with one auto and one manual 78mm batteries and I also bought one X2 battery. After about 4 weeks the manual quit taking a charge and a week or so later the X2 wouldn't take a charge. I contacted Smokeless Image and was given a RMA number and told to ship them back. Smokeless Image sent me an email saying they arrived with a lot of E liquid in the package and that they were shipping them back to me.

First of all I'd appreciate any advise about how to avoid this with my other batteries. My first starter kit is said to be a lesser product than Smokeless Image however 6 months after purchase those batteries are still working fine. I don't believe I misused the Volt batteries and I've been careful not to overfill cartridges as well as to never top off carts with them still attached to the battery.

I was aware leakage could happen however I'm wondering how much of this was my fault and how much was caused by product design flaws. I'm very disappointed with Smokeless Image's reply which lacked any helpful info, was trite and really only said: S.O.L.. I'd heard their customer service was excellent, a fact that played into my deciding to purchase from them.

A quote from their site leads me to believe I should've received more satisfactory treatment...


VOLT Sealed Automatics: You just have to inhale to get vapor. They are resistant to nicquid (eliquid) getting inside but are not eliquid proof.
VOLT Manual Batteries: You have to press a button to get vapor but they are completely nicquid (eliquid) proof.


Since the manual battery is "completely eliquid proof" why aren't they replacing it? They say they have a 3 month warranty. Also, I find it hard to believe the volume of liquid said to be in the package could build up in the X2 in approximately 4 weeks.

I'm thinking of asking them again about why they wouldn't replace the manual battery but given how I was treated I don't have much hope when it comes to their desire to retain a customer. Since I've read so many positive things about Smokeless Image's customer service I'm disappointed with how I was treated and I hope this doesn't happen to other Volt owners!

Lastly, any tips on avoiding this leakage would be greatly appreciated. Should I store my batteries standing upside down hoping any liquid might leak back out? Sorry about the long-winded post ~ this is my first problem with an e-cig vendor and it feels even worse coming from a company with a reputation for good customer service. :blush:



 
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As written, I think you have a right to gripe. Depending on my mood and financial situation, I'd go back and ask them to rethink their position. It mighta just been a desk jockey who rejected you so if you take your concerns to someone else in the organization it might help. Otherwise, I'd just take my biz elsewhere. I have several device vendors I buy from, but I always buy from one particular one if she has what I want. That's because she's small and she works directly with all her customers. I like that because she answers all my questions and makes sure I'm happy. As a result, I don't get nitt picky with her either (not implying you do). It just works out better.
 
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julieah3

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Hop over to the Smokeless Image forum on here, and PM Imagine to look into it.

I wish I could resolve this but I got an email from them saying they don't cover liquid damage. Sure feels rotten to buy a "Leak proof" manual battery only to be told it got liquid inside and they don't cover that. Which is it.... are they leak proof or not? :ohmy:
 

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You know, if you don't take these suggestions to go to the Ask Imagine thread at Smokeless Image or PM Imagine to discuss what the issue might be, then you certainly won't get this resolved. Not saying you will get it resolved but I have found Smokeless Image to be very helpful.

I understand no action means no resolution but I feel like I've already been told that the warranty doesn't cover leakage yet the manual battery is advertised as "leak proof". This has been an unpleasant experience for me and I'm reluctant to contact them again only to be disappointed and irritated again.

I don't know Imagine but Heather was the person who emailed me. Please know, I posted this hoping to get some information, (how to avoid leakage with other batteries), and not just to gripe. I do take suggestions here seriously, I'm just not sure in this case I want to deal with the emotions and feeling like I'm the only person who somehow can't negotiate with a company said to have good customer service.

My reluctance to contact them yet again doesn't mean I don't take suggestions here seriously, quite the opposite!

Any advice on how to avoid this leakage in the future? :blink:

Thank You for your support.
 

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@ Julie
In answer to your question:
I don't have a volt. But so far with my Kgo manual batteries, they have lasted me 6 months. I always lay them down. At night when I go to sleep I do not take the cartomizer off. I just lay my PV down. I'm wondering if you had yours standing up, or at an angle, if the carto might have leaked into the (cough, ahem...) "sealed" battery of your manual Volt.
Did I help a little?
 

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Any advice on how to avoid this leakage in the future? :blink:

Thank You for your support.

To avoid leakage with standard cartomizers, fill them off the battery and blow through them before you put the carto back on. If I carry an automatic battery I do so in my shirt pocket with the carto end down. If you carry it in a purse, place it vertical with the carto end down. When you remove the carto to refill, look at the battery air hole, and if you see any liquid, roll the edge of a tissue into a small pointer, and put it into the battery hole to absorb the liquid. This is the way I maintain my Bloog automatic batteries.
Safest bet is to get a sealed manual battery. If they allow liquid into the battery they are defective. On my Jotetech 510 manuals, or my Egos, I sometimes find liquid, quite a bit sometimes depending on the tank I am using, down in the battery contact end, but they are sealed. I just swab it out and it has never gotten into the battery itself. It seems to me you are due a new manual battery from Smokeless Image. But, you are not going to get it unless you follow up again, and then you still may not get it replaced.
 

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@ Julie
In answer to your question:
I don't have a volt. But so far with my Kgo manual batteries, they have lasted me 6 months. I always lay them down. At night when I go to sleep I do not take the cartomizer off. I just lay my PV down. I'm wondering if you had yours standing up, or at an angle, if the carto might have leaked into the (cough, ahem...) "sealed" battery of your manual Volt.
Did I help a little?

Thank you - it does help. The X2 was stored both standing up and laying down. The manual was laid down when not in use. I've seen a storage unit with holes to stand batteries upright - I'll skip this item. I think I'll start keeping other batteries laying down from now on.
 

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I have been taking all my clearos and cartos and Ce3's off at night and setting them upright to one side. That way I can see if I have any that are leaking. I also got a timer so I can recharge my large batteries at night for 5 hours and then the timer turns off. I just like making sure I don't have some crappy leak problem in my nice new purse.
 

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I wish I could resolve this but I got an email from them saying they don't cover liquid damage. Sure feels rotten to buy a "Leak proof" manual battery only to be told it got liquid inside and they don't cover that. Which is it.... are they leak proof or not? :ohmy:

No battery is completely liquid proof - except one waterproof mod I've seen which sounds like it is. If you drop a batt in your coffee for instance you've ruined it. Yes, the manuals shouldn't be affected by the odd bit of juice, but as I said, no battery is completely liquid proof.
The OP is a negative supplier review and you could have posted it on the negative reviews forum and probably got a response. They can't reply to you here. Or on the Smokeless Image forum where Imagine can reply and help out. She can't post here so can't reply to you here.
You've got 60 posts and only need 5 to post in the other ECF sub-forums.
 
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julieah3

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No battery is completely liquid proof - except one waterproof mod I've seen which sounds like it is. If you drop a batt in your coffee for instance you've ruined it. Yes, the manuals shouldn't be affected by the odd bit of juice, but as I said, no battery is completely liquid proof.
The OP is a negative supplier review and you could have posted it on the negative reviews forum and probably got a response. They can't reply to you here. Or on the Smokeless Image forum where Imagine can reply and help out. She can't post here so can't reply to you here.
You've got 60 posts and only need 5 to post in the other ECF sub-forums.

I apologize for my ignorance of the supplier's forums and to those readers my post irritated. I won't make this mistake again and I'll think long and hard before posting in the future.

I do feel a battery shouldn't be advertised as "leak proof" if all batteries can leak. How would a newbie know this? The rest of the details of my experience will be kept private. I didn't expect to be attacked for posting my frustration.

Again, I'm Sorry for my blunder but I think I've heard enough about it now. Thank You.
 

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I apologize for my ignorance of the supplier's forums and to those readers my post irritated. I won't make this mistake again and I'll think long and hard before posting in the future.

I do feel a battery shouldn't be advertised as "leak proof" if all batteries can leak. How would a newbie know this? The rest of the details of my experience will be kept private. I didn't expect to be attacked for posting my frustration.

Again, I'm Sorry for my blunder but I think I've heard enough about it now. Thank You.

I just read thru the posts and I don't think anyone sounded irritated - just kept telling you to contact Imagine in the Smokeless Image Forum. It didn't sound to me like anyone attacked you either. You posted and they replied. I had a couple battery issues too and SI CS has been more than helpful. I just today sent back my X2 and if they tell me it's my fault - well then I will accept that - I'm a newb. I am learning alot from this forum about how to keep my equipment clean and in fact, I'm glad this was all posted. I was putting my X2 in a cup at night (no coffee :p) standing up with the clearomizer still attached. I will be more careful and take it apart now after reading here. I haven't had leaking issues yet, but from what I read they can and will happen. Also there is a part of the forum I came across for "Battery Issues". From reading and watching youtube videos I've learned how to clean my batteries and what tools to use, but I don't expect every battery to work perfectly (the equipment isn't that expensive) and I'm glad SI will work to make things right.
Besides, smoking sure was a disposable habit......vaping is just less so, but disposable, too. :laugh:
Lighten up a little and laugh at your mistakes and keep vaping. Don't be mad. :(
 

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I apologize for my ignorance of the supplier's forums and to those readers my post irritated. I won't make this mistake again and I'll think long and hard before posting in the future.

I do feel a battery shouldn't be advertised as "leak proof" if all batteries can leak. How would a newbie know this? The rest of the details of my experience will be kept private. I didn't expect to be attacked for posting my frustration.

Again, I'm Sorry for my blunder but I think I've heard enough about it now. Thank You.

I must agree with dwsizme. I re-read the entire thread and I saw no personal attacks on you or any hint that anyone was irritated with you. I just don't understand how you can interpret the comments that people gave you, trying to sort out the issues you had, and providing sincere advice on how best to resolve the issue. Like dwsizme said, maybe lighten up a little. :)

I understand that you did not receive an adequate response from Smokeless Image customer support innitially. You should know that they have recently been undergoing some major growing pains, needing to hire and train new staff, and some recent customer service issues that were not initially correctly handled were immediately resolved by Imagine once she was made aware of the issue.

I encourage you to contact her by PM or on the Ask Imagine thread on the sub-forum. I'd be curious to find out what her response is after all of this is said and done. :thumb:
 

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I'll never buy another battery from them. I bought 4 78mm batteries a month ago. All 4 are completely useless and it wasn't from liquid either. Also, went through 3 X2's 650mah and two of them lasted 14 days, and the last one is about completely gone. Quality control sucks!

That makes two of us. Thank you for sharing because I was feeling like I'm the only one who's had a problem with them.
 

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That makes two of us. Thank you for sharing because I was feeling like I'm the only one who's had a problem with them.

I'm not making excuses for Smokeless Image. I have nothing to do with the company. I did get my first starter kit from them, and to this day I sincerely believe that they have some of the best quality equipment and best customer service compared to most online vendors.

That's not to say they are perfect. Their equipment is still manufactured mostly from China, which we all know has had questionable quality control issues. I think Smokeless Image realizes that for the most part, and is willing to replace faulty equipment at their costs.

That is why myself and many others here tried to encourage you to contact the main customer service representative, Imagine.

No hard feelings, I hope. None were meant. :)
 
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