Bench Test Results: MXJO 20A 3500mAh 18650
- By Mooch
- Batteries and Chargers
- 1 Replies
These tests below only note my personal opinion for the ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This can be one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. Never use them outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous discharge rating (CDR), never let it get colder than 0°C or hotter than 60°C, and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition. Never use a battery that is physically damaged in any way.
Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.
If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.
Test Results
I last tested these about 6-1/2 years ago when they were rewrapped Sanyo NCR18650GA’s that MXJO exaggerated the ratings for. Many of the China wrapping/rewrapping companies have switched over to China-manufactured cells so it was time for a retest.
I couldn’t figure out what this five prong top contact cell is but MXJO’s 20A and 3500mAh ratings for it are bullsh*t.
At its 20A rating I had to stop the discharge early, when the cell reached my 100°C safety cutoff at about 2.85V. This is hot enough to boil water can start the process that leads to thermal runaway, resulting in a fire and bursting of the cell. This 20A rating is preposterous, even as just a “pulsed” rating (which you only find out if you visit the web site).
This MXJO’s 20A rating is dangerous since it’s on the front of the wrap and is the rating that’s used by most web sites selling this cell. This rating is also useless because MXJO doesn’t tell us how long this “pulse” can be or how often we can pulse the cell at this level. Since this cell quickly overheats at such a crazy current level this is important information.
On the bottom rear of the cell is tiny printing that says “10A CDC”. You have to go to their web site to find out that CDC means they have given it a 10A Continuous Discharge Current rating. But no one visits the web site and many never notice the CDC rating on the back of the wrap or even know what “CDC” means.
To be fair, the 10A rating seems reasonable. I recommend staying below that to reduce risk and help extend overall cell life.
The 3500mAh capacity rating is a lie though. The two cells I tested delivered 3317mAh and 3340mAh. Since I cannot have the lowest capacity cells in the batch I’m rating them at 3300mAh.
This cell outperforms some 3200mAh-3550mAh 18650’s but the 3000mAh Samsung 30Q and Murata VTC6 run for the same amount of time at 5A (15W) and for longer at higher current levels. The Molicel P26A almost equals this cell at 5A and beats it at higher levels. The Molicel P28A beats it all power levels.
This is a double-wrapped cell but both wraps are very thin and the two cells I tested measured 18.5mm x 65.0mm (or smaller).
The Murata VTC6, Samsung 30Q, and Molicel P26A perform the same or better and the Molicel P28A is better at all power levels. But if you don’t mind paying more money for a cell from a company that fakes their ratings then this cell could be worth considering for use at up to about 5A-7A (about 15W-21W) to reduce voltage sag and extend cell life. For me personally, it’s not worth using even for free.
Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic
18650 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
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20700/21700 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
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To see how other cells have tested check out this link: Links To All 21700, 26650, 18350, 18500 Battery Tests
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. Never use them outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous discharge rating (CDR), never let it get colder than 0°C or hotter than 60°C, and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition. Never use a battery that is physically damaged in any way.
Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.
If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.
Test Results
I last tested these about 6-1/2 years ago when they were rewrapped Sanyo NCR18650GA’s that MXJO exaggerated the ratings for. Many of the China wrapping/rewrapping companies have switched over to China-manufactured cells so it was time for a retest.
I couldn’t figure out what this five prong top contact cell is but MXJO’s 20A and 3500mAh ratings for it are bullsh*t.
At its 20A rating I had to stop the discharge early, when the cell reached my 100°C safety cutoff at about 2.85V. This is hot enough to boil water can start the process that leads to thermal runaway, resulting in a fire and bursting of the cell. This 20A rating is preposterous, even as just a “pulsed” rating (which you only find out if you visit the web site).
This MXJO’s 20A rating is dangerous since it’s on the front of the wrap and is the rating that’s used by most web sites selling this cell. This rating is also useless because MXJO doesn’t tell us how long this “pulse” can be or how often we can pulse the cell at this level. Since this cell quickly overheats at such a crazy current level this is important information.
On the bottom rear of the cell is tiny printing that says “10A CDC”. You have to go to their web site to find out that CDC means they have given it a 10A Continuous Discharge Current rating. But no one visits the web site and many never notice the CDC rating on the back of the wrap or even know what “CDC” means.
To be fair, the 10A rating seems reasonable. I recommend staying below that to reduce risk and help extend overall cell life.
The 3500mAh capacity rating is a lie though. The two cells I tested delivered 3317mAh and 3340mAh. Since I cannot have the lowest capacity cells in the batch I’m rating them at 3300mAh.
This cell outperforms some 3200mAh-3550mAh 18650’s but the 3000mAh Samsung 30Q and Murata VTC6 run for the same amount of time at 5A (15W) and for longer at higher current levels. The Molicel P26A almost equals this cell at 5A and beats it at higher levels. The Molicel P28A beats it all power levels.
This is a double-wrapped cell but both wraps are very thin and the two cells I tested measured 18.5mm x 65.0mm (or smaller).
The Murata VTC6, Samsung 30Q, and Molicel P26A perform the same or better and the Molicel P28A is better at all power levels. But if you don’t mind paying more money for a cell from a company that fakes their ratings then this cell could be worth considering for use at up to about 5A-7A (about 15W-21W) to reduce voltage sag and extend cell life. For me personally, it’s not worth using even for free.
Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic
18650 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
18650 Battery Ratings and Performance Table
You are responsible for your own safety! These batteries are designed, manufactured, and sold only for use in a battery pack with the proper protection circuitry and battery management system. They were not designed for vaping (electronic...
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20700/21700 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
21700 Battery Ratings and Performance Table
You are responsible for your own safety! These batteries are designed, manufactured, and sold only for use in a battery pack with the proper protection circuitry and battery management system. They were not designed for vaping (electronic...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com
I want to work for the community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability, battery testing and news, and a say in what I test, then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: Battery Mooch | Patreon.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: Links To All 21700, 26650, 18350, 18500 Battery Tests
Smoant Knight Q Review by Ben28
- By Ben28
- Device Reviews
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Smoant Knight Q
The Knight Q is the most recent device from Smoant, after their great success with the Knight 80 and 40 and the Pasito, they present us with a pod-type vaper, with a flavor that simply impresses, a fairly large battery, a very large liquid capacity and that exceeds the typical 2mL and also, with a very peculiar shape but at the same time very attractive and that I have fallen in love with.
By the way, Smoant is celebrating its 10 years in the game and they are giving away a giftbox that includes;
1* Pasito Mini
1* Knight Q
X* P-Series Coils
1* Smoant Brooch
1* Bluetooth Speaker
There will be no more and no less than 40 winners and they will be announced from 17OCT to 5NOV on Smoant's official social networks.
I would like to thank Chloe from Smoant for the opportunity to review this device, which in short, has pleasantly surprised me.
By the way, Smoant is celebrating its 10 years in the game and they are giving away a giftbox that includes;
1* Pasito Mini
1* Knight Q
X* P-Series Coils
1* Smoant Brooch
1* Bluetooth Speaker
There will be no more and no less than 40 winners and they will be announced from 17OCT to 5NOV on Smoant's official social networks.
I would like to thank Chloe from Smoant for the opportunity to review this device, which in short, has pleasantly surprised me.
Brand Images
Here I present some of the main characteristics of the product, in addition, it is sold in five different colors and in my opinion they sent me the most beautiful of all, then we will see which one it is.
Features;
Features;
| 3mL Capacity |
| P-Series Coil |
| Updated Mesh Coil |
| Airflow Control |
| Constant Voltage Output |
| 1000mAh Battery Capacity |
Pretty complete right? It also comes with a built-in LED which indicates the battery charge of the device among other functions.
Specs;
| Brand | Smoant |
| Product Name | Knight Q Kit |
| Battery Capacity | Built-in 1000mAh battery |
| Charging | 5V/1A Type-C charging |
| Voltage | 3.4V-4.2V |
| Airflow | Bottom airflow control system |
| Capacity | 3ml |
| Filling | Side filling |
| Fit For | P Series Coil 0.6/0.8/1.0Ω |
| Material | PC+PCTG+Zinc alloy |
| Size | 60*50*16.8mm |
| Color | Sakura Pink, Space Grey, Purple Haze, Gunmetal, Fiery Red |
Packaging and First Impressions
On the front of the box we fully observe the device that is inside and the color itself, in this case Sakura Pink, a color that I love if I have to tell the truth. We can also see the name of the device, that the lanyard is included and that it is compatible with the P-Coils series.
On the back we find a little of the same, the brand and model of the product, the contents of the box, certain contact addresses with Smoant and a QR code that we will scan to verify the veracity of the product.
I love when brands take care of the presentation like in this case, I like that the box itself indicates the color of the product for example, I appreciate it a lot and it makes me want to open it and see what's inside.
Package Content;
1* Knight Q Device
1* Knight Q Cartridge
1* 0.6Ω Coil ( Pre-Installed )
1* 0.8Ω Coil
1* Type C-Cable
1* Lanyard
1* User Manual
On the back we find a little of the same, the brand and model of the product, the contents of the box, certain contact addresses with Smoant and a QR code that we will scan to verify the veracity of the product.
I love when brands take care of the presentation like in this case, I like that the box itself indicates the color of the product for example, I appreciate it a lot and it makes me want to open it and see what's inside.
Package Content;
1* Knight Q Device
1* Knight Q Cartridge
1* 0.6Ω Coil ( Pre-Installed )
1* 0.8Ω Coil
1* Type C-Cable
1* Lanyard
1* User Manual
On the side the only thing we appreciate is some branding and little else. I love the design of the box, it is sliding and has a fade from pink to white.
If we slide the casing out of the box we find a small user manual, quite useful for those who do not know or want to know in depth all the properties of the product. Below that manual we go directly to the device, I have to say, again, that I love the color. The design is based on a four-leaf clover, which symbolizes luck, and although it is somewhat unusual in the world of vaping, it looks quite nice.
When we take absolutely everything out of the box we find this, on the one hand, the pod, of which I have something against to say, I don't like them and I have never liked tinted pods and this is one of them, it is very difficult to see the amount of liquid remaining and it can become tedious. On the other hand, there is the device, a spare coil, a type-c cable and a lanyard. It is very appreciated that a lanyard is included in the kit, honestly, it is a good detail.
Device Inspection
This is the front of the device, I am still in love with how it looks, it is quite pretty, it is divided into four squares symbolizing the four-leaf clover. On the right side we see the make and model of the device in a slightly different color than the body.
The lanyard must be inserted through this small hole prepared for it and it is ready to be carried hanging. There are people who usually prefer this because they lose their vapes. I normally don't use it but it is a great detail.
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Uwell Caliburn GZ2 Cyber Pod System Kit
Caliburn GZ2 Cyber Kit is small, light, compact and powerful. It is powered by a built-in 850mAh battery with 17W max and Type-C 2A fast charging. Compared with Caliburn GZ2 Kit, it features tron-style RGB light with transparent material to show Cyberpunk spirits. It adopts integrated on-pod precise airflow control (iAFC), 3-step refill mechanism (U-Valve), and clear view window. It supports auto draw vaping to bring you convenient use. It is compatible with Uwell Caliburn G2 Cartridge that features 2ml capacity and easy top filling system and also fit for Uwell Caliburn G 0.8Ω/1.0Ω Coil, Uwell Caliburn G2 1.2Ω Coil.
Details:
1. Small and light, compact and powerful
2. Built-in 850mAh battery with 17W max
3. Tron-style RGB light with transparent material
4. Integrated on-pod precise airflow control (iAFC)
5. 2ml capacity, clear view juice window
6. 3-step refill mechanism (U-Valve)
7. Fit for Caliburn G2 Cartridge
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3. Breath-like slow pulse LED indicator
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6. Built-in 750mAh battery, 17W max
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Bench Test Results: MXJO 35A 3000mAh 18650
- By Mooch
- Batteries and Chargers
- 0 Replies
These tests below only note my personal opinion for the ESTIMATED ratings for the batteries I tested at the time I tested them. Any battery that is not a genuine Samsung, Sony, Murata, LG, Panasonic, Molicel, or Sanyo can change at any time! This can be one of the hazards of using “rewrapped” or batteries from other manufacturers so carefully research any battery you are considering using before purchasing.
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. Never use them outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous discharge rating (CDR), never let it get colder than 0°C or hotter than 60°C, and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition. Never use a battery that is physically damaged in any way.
Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.
If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.
Test Results
I know this is a popular cell but it’s just an average performer with absurd current ratings. If you like this cell and want to use it then go ahead! This report is only my personal opinion based on my test results, to be considered when considering what cell to use.
I last tested these about 6-1/2 years ago and in my opinion they were rewrapped Samsung 30Q’s then. Many of the China wrapping/rewrapping companies have switched over to China-manufactured cells so it was time for a retest.
This cell’s 35A rating is ridiculous, even as a “pulse” rating. At 35A it instantly drops to 3.3V and down to 3.2V a few seconds later. Most devices would reach their low voltage cutoff very quickly.
I stopped the discharge early, when the cell reached 100°C at about 2.85V. This is hot enough to boil water and can start the process that leads to thermal runaway, resulting in a fire and bursting of the cell. This rating is crazy, even as just a “pulsed” rating (which you only find out if you visit the web site).
The 35A “max pulse discharge” rating is also useless because MXJO doesn’t tell us how long this “pulse” can be or how often we can pulse the cell at this level. Since this cell quickly overheats at such a crazy current level this is important information.
On the bottom rear of the cell is tiny printing that says “20A CDC”. You have to go to their web site to find out that CDC means they have given it a 20A Continuous Discharge Current rating. But even at 20A continuous it reaches about 90°C down to 2.5V, which is MUCH too hot.
This is at most a 15A-rated cell. It’s almost identical in appearance to the Sinowatt 30SP, which is rated 15A, differing only by the radius of the curve of the metal at the bottom of the can. This MXJO’s performance is also about the same as the 30SP I tested 1-1/2 years ago. I do not know for sure what cell this is though.
This MXJO’s 35A rating is dangerous since it’s on the front of the wrap and is the rating that’s used by most web sites selling this cell. There’s no indication on the cell that it’s just an undefined “pulse” rating that can easily lead to overheating.
The MXJO web site tells you that the 20A is their claimed (and exaggerated) continuous rating but no one visits the web site and many never notice the CDC rating on the back of the wrap or even know what “CDC” means.
Both the Samsung 30Q and Murata VTC6 perform a little bit better at all power levels. The Molicel P26A equals this cell at 5A and beats it at higher levels. The Molicel P28A easily outperforms this MXJO at all power levels.
The two cells I tested delivered 3029mAh and 3062mAh. This is not good consistency. At most this cell has a 15A rating, about 45W. I recommend staying below that to reduce the risk and help extend overall cell life.
If you need a high capacity cell for moderate power levels , up to 45W, and low cost is the priority then try the Sinowatt 30SP since they perform the same. If you want a better performing, longer running cell then try the Molicel P28A. If not available try the Molicel P26A or the Samsung 30Q or Murata VTC6 if you are sure they are genuine. For me personally though, the MXJO’s are not worth using even for free.
Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic
18650 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
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20700/21700 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
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To see how other cells have tested check out this link: Links To All 21700, 26650, 18350, 18500 Battery Tests
Misusing or mishandling lithium-ion batteries can pose a SERIOUS RISK of property damage, personal injury, or even death. Never use them outside of a fully protected battery pack and you use them at your own risk. Never exceed the battery’s true continuous discharge rating (CDR), never let it get colder than 0°C or hotter than 60°C, and keep the plastic wrap and top insulating ring in perfect condition. Never use a battery that is physically damaged in any way.
Testing batteries at their limits is dangerous and should never be attempted by anyone who has not thoroughly studied the dangers involved, understands the risks, has the proper equipment, and takes all appropriate safety precautions.
If the battery has only one current rating number, or if it only says "max", then I have to assume the battery is rated at that current level for any type of discharge, including continuous.
Test Results
I know this is a popular cell but it’s just an average performer with absurd current ratings. If you like this cell and want to use it then go ahead! This report is only my personal opinion based on my test results, to be considered when considering what cell to use.
I last tested these about 6-1/2 years ago and in my opinion they were rewrapped Samsung 30Q’s then. Many of the China wrapping/rewrapping companies have switched over to China-manufactured cells so it was time for a retest.
This cell’s 35A rating is ridiculous, even as a “pulse” rating. At 35A it instantly drops to 3.3V and down to 3.2V a few seconds later. Most devices would reach their low voltage cutoff very quickly.
I stopped the discharge early, when the cell reached 100°C at about 2.85V. This is hot enough to boil water and can start the process that leads to thermal runaway, resulting in a fire and bursting of the cell. This rating is crazy, even as just a “pulsed” rating (which you only find out if you visit the web site).
The 35A “max pulse discharge” rating is also useless because MXJO doesn’t tell us how long this “pulse” can be or how often we can pulse the cell at this level. Since this cell quickly overheats at such a crazy current level this is important information.
On the bottom rear of the cell is tiny printing that says “20A CDC”. You have to go to their web site to find out that CDC means they have given it a 20A Continuous Discharge Current rating. But even at 20A continuous it reaches about 90°C down to 2.5V, which is MUCH too hot.
This is at most a 15A-rated cell. It’s almost identical in appearance to the Sinowatt 30SP, which is rated 15A, differing only by the radius of the curve of the metal at the bottom of the can. This MXJO’s performance is also about the same as the 30SP I tested 1-1/2 years ago. I do not know for sure what cell this is though.
This MXJO’s 35A rating is dangerous since it’s on the front of the wrap and is the rating that’s used by most web sites selling this cell. There’s no indication on the cell that it’s just an undefined “pulse” rating that can easily lead to overheating.
The MXJO web site tells you that the 20A is their claimed (and exaggerated) continuous rating but no one visits the web site and many never notice the CDC rating on the back of the wrap or even know what “CDC” means.
Both the Samsung 30Q and Murata VTC6 perform a little bit better at all power levels. The Molicel P26A equals this cell at 5A and beats it at higher levels. The Molicel P28A easily outperforms this MXJO at all power levels.
The two cells I tested delivered 3029mAh and 3062mAh. This is not good consistency. At most this cell has a 15A rating, about 45W. I recommend staying below that to reduce the risk and help extend overall cell life.
If you need a high capacity cell for moderate power levels , up to 45W, and low cost is the priority then try the Sinowatt 30SP since they perform the same. If you want a better performing, longer running cell then try the Molicel P28A. If not available try the Molicel P26A or the Samsung 30Q or Murata VTC6 if you are sure they are genuine. For me personally though, the MXJO’s are not worth using even for free.
Continuous Current Discharge Graphs
Ratings and Performance Specs Graphic
18650 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
18650 Battery Ratings and Performance Table
You are responsible for your own safety! These batteries are designed, manufactured, and sold only for use in a battery pack with the proper protection circuitry and battery management system. They were not designed for vaping (electronic...
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20700/21700 Ratings and E-Scores Table:
21700 Battery Ratings and Performance Table
You are responsible for your own safety! These batteries are designed, manufactured, and sold only for use in a battery pack with the proper protection circuitry and battery management system. They were not designed for vaping (electronic...
www.e-cigarette-forum.com
I want to work for the community full time! If you feel what I do is worth a couple dollars a month and you would like early access to battery availability, battery testing and news, and a say in what I test, then please consider becoming a patron and supporting my testing efforts: Battery Mooch | Patreon.
To see how other cells have tested check out this link: Links To All 21700, 26650, 18350, 18500 Battery Tests
Hellvape Pro RDA Review by Ben28
- By Ben28
- Atomizer Reviews
- 1 Replies
Hellvape Pro RDA
RDA atomizers are the famous ones known for their great flavor and vapor production, in this case I bring the Hellvape Pro, which has really impressed me for good. It has two different air inlets and is very, very customizable, being able to choose the colors that you like the most and that match your mod. They are normally combined with a Squonk Mod, I currently don't have one, which is a shame, so I won't be able to review the squonking function. In addition, it is very easy to wick and assemble both for beginners and for more advanced people, so, after retiring my Hellvape Hellbeast RDA, let's start this review but not before thanking Sourcemore for sending me this product to give my most honest review about it.
Disclaimer; Nobody nor any brand is paying me to do this review, all you will see are my most sincere opinions, both the positive and the negative.
Disclaimer; Nobody nor any brand is paying me to do this review, all you will see are my most sincere opinions, both the positive and the negative.
Brand Images
The product in question comes in seven colors, I will leave them here below from left to right.
- Silver + Grey Extra Parts
- Blue + Pink Extra Parts
- Gold + Black Extra Parts
- Black + Red Extra Parts
- Gunmetal + Blue Extra Parts
- Rainbow + Light Pink Extra Parts
- Red + Silver Extra Parts
It has three airflow modes, we can only have the honeycomb open, the bottom airflow open or both open, this gives a great range for people who love a very open puff or something more closed.
In the images we can see the exploded view, the atomizer is very easy to disassemble.
Additionally, if you like customization, the extra parts in many colors are sold separately, I recommend it to give a tone of customization to the atomizer.
- Silver + Grey Extra Parts
- Blue + Pink Extra Parts
- Gold + Black Extra Parts
- Black + Red Extra Parts
- Gunmetal + Blue Extra Parts
- Rainbow + Light Pink Extra Parts
- Red + Silver Extra Parts
It has three airflow modes, we can only have the honeycomb open, the bottom airflow open or both open, this gives a great range for people who love a very open puff or something more closed.
In the images we can see the exploded view, the atomizer is very easy to disassemble.
Additionally, if you like customization, the extra parts in many colors are sold separately, I recommend it to give a tone of customization to the atomizer.
Specs of the product;
| Size |
| |
| Airflow | Bottom Airflow, Side Airflow, Bottom Airflow + Side Airflow | |
| Drip Tip | 810 | |
| Weight | 32g |
Packaging And First Impressions
The box in which the product comes has a simple and direct design, a black box, with a preview of the atomizer, the color indicated in the upper right corner and we are told that it comes with free customizable parts.
In the box of the extra parts we simply see the brand of the product and that it is indicated for the Hellvape Pro RDA.
On the side of the box we see the model name indicated and little else, as I said before, simple and to the point.
We go to the back, where we are told the contents of the box, some of the features, a scratch-off code to verify the authenticity of the product and some addresses and emails of the brand.
The contents of the atomizer box;
1* Dead Rabbit Pro RDA
2* 0.37Ω Ni80 Clapton Coils
2* Shoelace Cotton
1* BF Pin
1* Coil Cutting Tool
1* Accesory Bag
1* Extra 810 Drip Tip
1* Extra Airflow Ring
1* User Manual
The content of the extra parts of the atomizer;
1* 810 Drip Tip
1* Top Airflow Ring
1* Bottom Airflow Ring
As for first impressions, I like that the brand has gone straight to the point, it looks simple and pretty, clear and concise. A black box, with an image so we know what is expected inside the box and little else, very good packaging, I like it.
We go to the back, where we are told the contents of the box, some of the features, a scratch-off code to verify the authenticity of the product and some addresses and emails of the brand.
The contents of the atomizer box;
1* Dead Rabbit Pro RDA
2* 0.37Ω Ni80 Clapton Coils
2* Shoelace Cotton
1* BF Pin
1* Coil Cutting Tool
1* Accesory Bag
1* Extra 810 Drip Tip
1* Extra Airflow Ring
1* User Manual
The content of the extra parts of the atomizer;
1* 810 Drip Tip
1* Top Airflow Ring
1* Bottom Airflow Ring
As for first impressions, I like that the brand has gone straight to the point, it looks simple and pretty, clear and concise. A black box, with an image so we know what is expected inside the box and little else, very good packaging, I like it.
Once we opened the box we found everything very well packaged in its place, on the one hand the atomizer and the extra parts and on the other the DIY parts. In the small box of the atomizer are the coils, the cotton, the accessories...
The first impression upon seeing the product was wow, the color is incredible, it looks beautiful, bright, no matte colors or anything like that, it is something that really draws attention and that I love, you always have to give color to life.
As I mentioned before, the free extra parts are Pink and the complementary ones that Sourcemore sent me are Light Pink, then we will talk about the difference between the original drip tip and the extra one, because there is one.
The first impression upon seeing the product was wow, the color is incredible, it looks beautiful, bright, no matte colors or anything like that, it is something that really draws attention and that I love, you always have to give color to life.
As I mentioned before, the free extra parts are Pink and the complementary ones that Sourcemore sent me are Light Pink, then we will talk about the difference between the original drip tip and the extra one, because there is one.
Device Inspection
Once everything is taken out of the box and the atomizer is mounted on top of the Vaporesso Gen200, we see how beautiful it looks and combines with the black. The pack comes with everything you need to wick and vape directly, no need to buy separate coils. By the way, what was used for the review was what came in the package, none of my own cotton or my coils.
The main difference between the drip tips is that one is made of a material, like some type of metal, and the other that comes separately is like some type of plastic. I don't want to get into details because I honestly don't know exactly what materials they are and to tell lies, I better keep quiet.
The main difference between the drip tips is that one is made of a material, like some type of metal, and the other that comes separately is like some type of plastic. I don't want to get into details because I honestly don't know exactly what materials they are and to tell lies, I better keep quiet.
This is what the atomizer looks like with all its parts disassembled, on one side of the drip tip, which if you look closely has a kind of metal base and according to Hellvape, is an Ag+ drip tip which does not transfer any heat to the lips. or anything like that. On the other hand we see the airflow rings. I must say that when I took it apart, an O-ring came out, but they are very, very easy to put back on.
To disassemble it, we first remove the drip tip, then we turn the top airflow ring until it closes completely and it comes out, finally we remove the bottom airflow ring, it sounds simple right? Well, that's it.
To disassemble it, we first remove the drip tip, then we turn the top airflow ring until it closes completely and it comes out, finally we remove the bottom airflow ring, it sounds simple right? Well, that's it.
This is what the chamber looks like from the inside, it is actually quite wide and we can see where the air enters, both through the honeycomb and through the direct inlet, which passes the air under the coil.
SMOK MAG SOLO KIT REVIEWED BY BIGBOB2322
- By Bigbob2322
- HealthCabin
- 0 Replies
SMOK MAG SOLO KIT REVIEWED BY BIGBOB2322
Hello again and welcome back for today's review of the Smok Mag Solo Kit. This is a single battery device using either a 21700 or 18650 battery, a 18650 battery adapter comes pre installed in the mod. If your looking for a kit that has multiple...
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Closed/Sold RusMods Union 3.3 LE (StarPlat 2.0)
- By DPLongo22
- Member Classifieds and Swaps
- 4 Replies
I've simply got too many 
mods.
I've been using two Unions literally ALL THE TIME for 2+ years, and this beauty has been sitting on a shelf. It's literally NEVER been used, other than to stick a battery in and snap some pics. I've also played around with the tilt stuff, just because I wanted to see what it was like.
It's kinda cool, actually. I've attached the Starplat manual to this ad too, in case anyone is interested in that.
There's always just been something about this one that I didn't want to mess up. I've been using the cheaper Unions, and I throw them around without any concern. They're built TOUGH.
The finish on this one is the "LE Carbon Matte #5". If it's anything like the cheaper ones, which is certainly appears to be, it will take a beating a rarely show a scratch or dent.
I'll let this one go for $160 (CONUS only) which includes:
- Mod
- 18650 adapter
- Shipping USPS Priority Small Box *
I'm willing to ship international but we'd have to discuss a price. It's basically $150 USD plus shipping, for what that's worth.
Pics:
RusMods Union 3.3LE (StarPlat 2.0)
Product site (RusMods):
VapeProLine-Union-Starplat 2.0-Union 3.3 LE
YouTube vid:
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Description (from RusMod's site)
The Union 3.3 stick mod is a continuation of the Unions series line of mods using the updated domestic Starplat 2.0 controller board from Starplat.
Two fire buttons located on the top and front make it possible to use the mod in any position convenient for you.
The gold-plated positive contact provides better current conductivity and oxidation resistance.
As before, a wide choice of exterior design with a reliable coating.
The updated design, small dimensions, and other design features, as well as the use of a new controller, put it on a qualitatively new level.
The "SBS" type design allows you to reduce the dimensions and protect the structure from mechanical damage as much as possible. High-quality spring-loaded stainless steel connector. The base is made of heat-resistant plastic, which avoids deformation from heating. The outer casing is made of high-quality plastic and is coated with a protective varnish of special strength and wear resistance. The casings are available in different versions, both in plain black and with a variety of textures in matte and glossy versions. Due to the presence of a charge module with a USB 3.1 Type C connector, it is possible to charge the battery without removing it from the product.
The control board used with thermal control has a wide range of settings and makes it possible to set individual parameters.
The use of high-quality components guarantees long and trouble-free operation.
Specifications:
Chipset parameters
Board Starplat 2.0
Output wattage (W) 0 - 75
Output voltage (V) 0-9
Input voltage (V) 3.2-4.2
Atomizer resistance (Ohm) 0.1 - 5.0
Control Gravity sensor (2 directions)
Screen Size (In) 0.66 OLED
Interface language English, italian, spanish, french, russian
Ability to update software Yes
Temperature control Yes
Saving settings Yes
Case parameters
Material High quality plastic material
Distinctive features Fast battery change system, spring loaded pin connector, gold-plated positive contacs, copper wires, engraving with serial number, atomizer diameter up to 24 mm
Battery single 20700,21700 or 18650 with adapter
Charging port USB 3.1 Type-C 1Max
Charger current consumption 300 mA
Other parameters
Warranty (months) 6
Dimensions (mm) 49x29x81
Weight (g) 61
mods. I've been using two Unions literally ALL THE TIME for 2+ years, and this beauty has been sitting on a shelf. It's literally NEVER been used, other than to stick a battery in and snap some pics. I've also played around with the tilt stuff, just because I wanted to see what it was like.
It's kinda cool, actually. I've attached the Starplat manual to this ad too, in case anyone is interested in that.
There's always just been something about this one that I didn't want to mess up. I've been using the cheaper Unions, and I throw them around without any concern. They're built TOUGH.
The finish on this one is the "LE Carbon Matte #5". If it's anything like the cheaper ones, which is certainly appears to be, it will take a beating a rarely show a scratch or dent.
I'll let this one go for $160 (CONUS only) which includes:
- Mod
- 18650 adapter
- Shipping USPS Priority Small Box *
I'm willing to ship international but we'd have to discuss a price. It's basically $150 USD plus shipping, for what that's worth.
Pics:
RusMods Union 3.3LE (StarPlat 2.0)
Product site (RusMods):
VapeProLine-Union-Starplat 2.0-Union 3.3 LE
YouTube vid:
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Description (from RusMod's site)
The Union 3.3 stick mod is a continuation of the Unions series line of mods using the updated domestic Starplat 2.0 controller board from Starplat.
Two fire buttons located on the top and front make it possible to use the mod in any position convenient for you.
The gold-plated positive contact provides better current conductivity and oxidation resistance.
As before, a wide choice of exterior design with a reliable coating.
The updated design, small dimensions, and other design features, as well as the use of a new controller, put it on a qualitatively new level.
The "SBS" type design allows you to reduce the dimensions and protect the structure from mechanical damage as much as possible. High-quality spring-loaded stainless steel connector. The base is made of heat-resistant plastic, which avoids deformation from heating. The outer casing is made of high-quality plastic and is coated with a protective varnish of special strength and wear resistance. The casings are available in different versions, both in plain black and with a variety of textures in matte and glossy versions. Due to the presence of a charge module with a USB 3.1 Type C connector, it is possible to charge the battery without removing it from the product.
The control board used with thermal control has a wide range of settings and makes it possible to set individual parameters.
The use of high-quality components guarantees long and trouble-free operation.
Specifications:
Chipset parameters
Board Starplat 2.0
Output wattage (W) 0 - 75
Output voltage (V) 0-9
Input voltage (V) 3.2-4.2
Atomizer resistance (Ohm) 0.1 - 5.0
Control Gravity sensor (2 directions)
Screen Size (In) 0.66 OLED
Interface language English, italian, spanish, french, russian
Ability to update software Yes
Temperature control Yes
Saving settings Yes
Case parameters
Material High quality plastic material
Distinctive features Fast battery change system, spring loaded pin connector, gold-plated positive contacs, copper wires, engraving with serial number, atomizer diameter up to 24 mm
Battery single 20700,21700 or 18650 with adapter
Charging port USB 3.1 Type-C 1Max
Charger current consumption 300 mA
Other parameters
Warranty (months) 6
Dimensions (mm) 49x29x81
Weight (g) 61
