Best equipment or technique for 100% VG vaper?

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  1. sammy43

    sammy43 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Recently starting vaping and found out that my wife and I will be using 100% VG juice. She had a bad reaction to the PG juices we got but does just fine when vaping the all VG juices. I don't have the reaction to PG but since we are sharing equipment I don't want traces of PG that may cause her the reactions again so I am sticking with the VG only as well.

    We have a couple of RN4081 PV's (Smokefree brand) with a couple attys and a handful of cartos. The attys are getting clogged up after less than a week of vaping with the VG. The cartos are holding up better and seem to offer a better experience overall.

    A few members suggested thinning the VG with distilled water, vodka or grain alcohol to help with wicking. Haven't tried this yet as we only have two 10ml bottles of VG and I don't want to goof it up before we get more juice. :?:

    My question: Is there a better technique or PV setup that is preferred for 100% VG vaping? Dripping and then cleaning attys? Clearomizers on higher voltage or variable voltage PV's? Tank style setups? LR cartos? Mods?
     
  2. shakory

    shakory Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    im also vaping 100% vg right now and what i have found works best for at this time is dripping on LR atty with my silver bullet (3.7v i believe)..produces lots of vapor and good throat hit, havent found a good carto that works well with 100%VG yet but i havent tried to many as im pretty new to this
     
  3. TJVapes

    TJVapes Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I use all vg in carto tanks. I thin with 15-20 drops of distilled water per 10 mL sometimes but find that it's mostly unnecessary with tanks. Mostly I thin for easier transferring of the liquid with a tipped syringe rather than for carto perormance. I don't notice a significant difference in the performance of the juice as far as flavor or vapor.
     
  4. nocturn4l3030

    nocturn4l3030 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    what kind of atomizers are you using for your 100% vg juices? i find 510s to be much easier to use.. as it seems like VG is too thick for 306's.. but 306's are my atty of choice. so just curious i guess
     
  5. pnguin

    pnguin Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I have 2 setups at different voltages and don't thin my juice, 100% VG. For 3.7 and 4.2V the 2.4-2.6 ohm fluxomizer deluxe from got vapes is great. For 4.8V (puck mod) the smoktek 2.5 ohm carto works well. Both give a cool vape with lots of vapor, preserving the taste. I am not a fan of warm vapor. But thats just me. Your taste may differ. Mid range attys work also, I just don't like to drip except when mixing new flavors.
     
  6. SpiderMo

    SpiderMo Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I don't usually drip and the only 100%vg juice I use is Gorillajuice and Boba's Bounty and Honeyflu from Liquid Express and so far the LR cartos hold up really well, I have used 1 LR carto for about 3wks before it starts getting weak Don't know why the LR cartos do better but it does for me anyway. Good Luck and Happy Vaping
     
  7. sonicdsl

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    My roommate vapes 100% VG on his Go-Go PV. He just uses the Go-Go cartos on it, and has had the same 5 cartos for almost 2 months now! (He uses no flavors either, so that may make a difference).

    I also use a Go-Go, but have a couple of Go-Go to 510 adapters, and so I have the whole world of 510 stuff at my disposal. :lol:

    The Go-Go batt is awesome - I put some Resurrectors on there this week and WOW! 3.7v Flavor & Vapor craziness going on (and not at the price of a mod!). :D
     
  8. leftfeild

    leftfeild Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I've found my best vaping setup for vg so far is with a CE2 aka fluxomiser with a simple mod. With the XL size you can hold up to 1.8ml of liquid, and if you simply take out the inner seal and snip the existing slots a little larger into /\ shapes or if you're ultra lazy, turn it upside down, it wicks vg with no hassle at all and performs well.

    The biggest plus for these is that the heating coil is at the top of the device so it gives a much better heat and flavour experience. The other big one is that it's a (best to me) successful tank style system that reliably works with vg.

    I have cartomisers (510 and 808), ego mega dual coil cartomisers, dual coil cartomisers, atomisers (ego-T normal and LR, 510 normal and LR) and hve tried a G4 (similar to CE3) and one of those weird filler clearos I can't remember the name of now. With all of those, I'm convinced the CE2 is the best solution for me in terms of throat hit, flavour and portability as the other types aren't portable enough for me or have serious problems with VG use.

    They also last a fair while if you take care of them. None of mine have stopped working, I accidentally broke the wick or pulled the wires out messing with them after 3 months of constant use or more (by constant I mean 3ml a day). It's a simple dry burn and wash to clean them and they are almost as good as new. As sturdy as an atomiser almost but you get 5 of them for the same price as an atomiser. Good deal to me.

    There's a lot of negative reviews on CE2s but for me it outshines anything I own to put on my ego by a very long way for VG. If I used PG, things could be different as I'd have tried more tank systems but because wicking is always an issue, a CE2 is the perfect solution.
     
  9. x-smok3

    x-smok3 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    +1 on Fluxomizers (Gotvapes) the only difference in use that I do is discard the inner plug and use the thin center plug, groove side down against the cup. I tried trimming the slots and had more leaking. Massive vapor and flavor with 100% VG.
     
  10. tyleris12

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    I vape 100% VG only and use Boge LR carto's in a carto tank. The VG I buy is thinned for me by the vendor and they even add extra flavor to compensate for the distilled water used to thin. My carto's last a long time with this e-liquid. I think it also matters what flavorings are used, as many complain that the darker liquids clog things faster. Even the coffee and chocolate flavors I buy from my supplier are almost clear, so this has never been an issue for me either. I think it really depends on what (or who's) e-liquids you are using.
     
  11. pyro13g

    pyro13g Senior Member ECF Veteran

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    I vape 510 atty's and carto's on the 510 battery, Ego, and a pass through. I have zero problems vaping VG. 48mg nic base, 99.7% pure VG dilution, and flavor mixed at 20%.

    When I first started, the problem was "me", as in flooding my cartos and atty's.
     
  12. sammy43

    sammy43 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I am using the RN4081 SmokeFree attys and cartos right now. These seem to be working fairly well with the 100% VG juices but I don't have another PV to compare. I like the smoothness of the VG juice on this equipment (vs. PG) but again my experience with this is limited.
     
  13. lasttango

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    All VG doesn't perform the same... This COV Cloudpure VG I have is very dry burning.... More than most PG juices I vape... I can hit it at 6+volts and I have no problem or flavor loss... it's great for dripping in an LR 510 or 306... Alien visions and vaperite has always performed better for me below 5 volts...

    in my experience... and this contradicts some other advice... 100% VG juices kill my cartos pretty quickly... tried Mega duals... 510 lrs and Kr808's...
     
  14. sammy43

    sammy43 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Great suggestions! It did take me a couple hours to google all this stuff to see what it all was. :laugh:
    • LR 510 Atty 1.8
    • smoktek 2.5 ohm carto
    • LR cartos 1.8
    • CE2 aka fluxomiser carto
    • Boge LR carto's in a carto tank
    • 510 atty's and carto's

    It appears from the responses that the LR cartos and/or attys are favorites for vaping VG. This is all overwhelmingly 510 stuff which we have none of. Not too concerned with battery life or throat hit and it seems vapor production is already top notch with VG juice. Now the question is which PV do I buy for my first? :blink:

    All the 4081 stuff we have is my wifes. She likes the analog look and feel of the "Super Mini" but this is not so important to me. I like the look of the Riva or Ego styles. Not super fond of the box mods or the bigger screwdriver thingies.

    Would the higher voltage of the Riva ~3.7V vs. the Ego ~3.4v make a difference in terms of flavor?
     
  15. shakory

    shakory Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    i have tried the same fluxomizer with 100% vg juice and cannot get it to work well compared to the atty...i let it sit for a while etc.. and still nothin, just gets really hot and produces barely any vapor
     
  16. sammy43

    sammy43 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    Shakory...which PV are you using with the Fluxomixers? Did you try several?

    I have also been considering the ego variable battery kit from Got Vapes for my first PV. This has the 3.2v, 3.7v and 4.2v settings. Will the LR atty or carto on a 3.4v or 3.7v device give the same results?

    I ordered a bunch of VG juice from Alien Visions last night! Irish Cream, Boba's Bounty, Flue Cured, Raf-a-licious, Caramel Kicker and Gorilla Juice!
     
  17. DOAlaboratories

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    Speaking of AVE's VG... How Should i slot a carto for a tank to wick this stuff? I tried 2 slots, 2 punches, and nothing. still had to drip fill the damn thing.
     
  18. nocturn4l3030

    nocturn4l3030 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    hey lt, jus curious, but do your 306s under perform somewhat when using 100% vg? mainly ave stuff... as im a 306 type of guy..but it seems too easy to over fill..then when you get it just right..its already in need of another drop or so o_O the when i drip down the drip tip..it takes forever to get down there...i guess i could debridge..but anyway jus curious to compare and see other peoples techniques..as i stated before, i pretty much use my 510s specifically for ave juices..or i realy wouldnt even be using em at all
     
  19. shakory

    shakory Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    I am using a silver bullet and that might be why because it's at 3.7 but im not sure because I don't have a VV mod to test.....LR atty on 3.7 produces clouds of vapor withe AVE juice in my experience....currently vaping AVE BB with that setup and lovin it!
     
  20. sammy43

    sammy43 Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I would think thinning the juice a bit might be worth a try. Look at TJvapes reply earlier in this thread. I would experiment with a small amount of juice just in case the results are not what you want.

    I am still waiting on my first AVE juice order so not sure but this stuff sounds thicker than some other 100% VG?
     
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