Sorry for the late response,working too many hours here lately,as for describing it, to me its the greatest! I have spent many hundreds and hundreds of dollars trying to mimic it, it says smokey,so ive tried smokey flavors and that didnt work,ive done so many different various mixes and nothing.Its sweet on the back end.the "dirty" taste I cant see.I really can't explain the taste,I can' nail it, but your idea is sort of idea to play with! If there was a way i'd send you a sample to get some ideas!