there's a lot of nut allergies these days....it's actually life threatening. I wonder if you could tone it down a bit? That'd be greeaaat.
Do you think we are perceived any different than Smokers? Honestly..
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I think people love to be offended and know what's best for you without getting involved with the facts.
Are people going to say we are like smokers or it is even worse? Of course, it's something more for them to be offended about and know better than any of us.
Are people going to say we are like smokers or it is even worse? Of course, it's something more for them to be offended about and know better than any of us.
I am so glad and happy I am retired and spend the vast majority of my time at home and inside. It is just to "peopley" out there.
The only perception people have about me is that I am amazing...
We are perceived differently by different groups of people.
The informed non-smoker or informed active smoker looking to quit are generally supportive because they are informed.
The general non smoking uninformed popuation has a range of views towards us from what misinformation they choose to buy into.
Be it worse than smoking health wise, fear of someone catching on fire around them, or being deemed an annoying nuisance.
In general though, there is a running joke/sarcastic undertone that male vapers are annoying, homosexual, hipster, d-bags. I find it weird that no one has mentioned it. I'm sure a lot of you have seen this displayed in meme form around the interwebs.
This has little to do with actual clouds vs whatever as these threads tend to focus on.
In my city, we have a ton of vapers and I still have yet to see people being unruly and disrespectful in public. Sure, all the shops are fogged out, but this blatant disregard of people around you, k-loudz around kids on purpose, or cloding while someone is eating next to you, I've never seen it.
The informed non-smoker or informed active smoker looking to quit are generally supportive because they are informed.
The general non smoking uninformed popuation has a range of views towards us from what misinformation they choose to buy into.
Be it worse than smoking health wise, fear of someone catching on fire around them, or being deemed an annoying nuisance.
In general though, there is a running joke/sarcastic undertone that male vapers are annoying, homosexual, hipster, d-bags. I find it weird that no one has mentioned it. I'm sure a lot of you have seen this displayed in meme form around the interwebs.
This has little to do with actual clouds vs whatever as these threads tend to focus on.
In my city, we have a ton of vapers and I still have yet to see people being unruly and disrespectful in public. Sure, all the shops are fogged out, but this blatant disregard of people around you, k-loudz around kids on purpose, or cloding while someone is eating next to you, I've never seen it.
Thank you for giving us advice on where and how to vape but I fear you're preaching to the choir. If you've spent any time on this forum, you will have realised that the vast majority of posters here are intelligent enough to be considerate of others. The idiots who cause the problems aren't the type who frequent sites such as ECF...
Where I live I'm more likely to encounter smokers than vapers - and I live in London (London, England not London, Canada)
The comment I've had most is, "How's that going? Is it keeping you off the cigs?".
I've had a couple of people swerve when I've been vaping outside but they're the type who'll swerve away from someone lightly clearing their throat (in case they catch something.)
I don't care what people think, unless they work in the medical profession, and if I hear, "But we don't know what's in them...", I soon put them right.
The individuals who garner their knowledge base (or opinions) from the cesspool known as "social media" are, quite frankly, not worth my consideration.
Congrats on making the switch and long may it continue
Where I live I'm more likely to encounter smokers than vapers - and I live in London (London, England not London, Canada)
The comment I've had most is, "How's that going? Is it keeping you off the cigs?".
I've had a couple of people swerve when I've been vaping outside but they're the type who'll swerve away from someone lightly clearing their throat (in case they catch something.)
I don't care what people think, unless they work in the medical profession, and if I hear, "But we don't know what's in them...", I soon put them right.
The individuals who garner their knowledge base (or opinions) from the cesspool known as "social media" are, quite frankly, not worth my consideration.
Congrats on making the switch and long may it continue
What are the chances that OP would end up with your Ex Doctor ?
Doctors are not ignorant, prejudiced? Likely..
Lu
I simply don't give a bugs behind what other people think.
At 6' 2" 200# with long (past the shoulders) hair and a beard, I usually don't get too many people approaching me with complaints. (They'll usually just call the cops)
At 6' 2" 200# with long (past the shoulders) hair and a beard, I usually don't get too many people approaching me with complaints. (They'll usually just call the cops)
I've blown respectable plumes in nearby neighborhoods to most of you.
Somehow everyone has been decent and respectable for the most part.
Or possibly afraid.
How you guys meet all these jerks, I don't know.
But I'm sorry it happens to you all.
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Somehow everyone has been decent and respectable for the most part.
Or possibly afraid.
How you guys meet all these jerks, I don't know.
But I'm sorry it happens to you all.
Tapatyped
Up until recently I was in the, I haven't witnessed a vaper blowing clouds in a rude way set. That is, until a few days ago, while heading into the grocery store, there he was. Dressed heat to toe in black, pony tail, gripping an brick sized obelisk in his hamhock fist. The Darth Vader whoosh as each hit was taken and the huge exhale three feet from the door right into a young woman's face. I cringed...as the young woman turned her head and blocked her face from the engulfing cloud. Some people are just self absorbed embodied rudeness.
With the lies and hype from tgr media vapers are treated worse.
The lie vaping is worse than smoking
The fear every mod will explode.
Are just two of the lies
Yer right, uninformed.
I just wish people would take the blinders off.
I love vaping, but there could be unknown dangers down the road.
As far as the medical community, it hard for a layman to seperate the wheat from the chaff..
My doctor fully supports my vaping. After all, it took less than 3 weeks of vaping to go off both of my meds for COPD.
Glad you have a new doctor!
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Thank you for giving us advice on where and how to vape but I fear you're preaching to the choir. If you've spent any time on this forum, you will have realised that the vast majority of posters here are intelligent enough to be considerate of others. The idiots who cause the problems aren't the type who frequent sites such as ECF...
Where I live I'm more likely to encounter smokers than vapers - and I live in London (London, England not London, Canada)
The comment I've had most is, "How's that going? Is it keeping you off the cigs?".
I've had a couple of people swerve when I've been vaping outside but they're the type who'll swerve away from someone lightly clearing their throat (in case they catch something.)
I don't care what people think, unless they work in the medical profession, and if I hear, "But we don't know what's in them...", I soon put them right.
The individuals who garner their knowledge base (or opinions) from the cesspool known as "social media" are, quite frankly, not worth my consideration.
Congrats on making the switch and long may it continue
A perfect example is a few weeks ago there was a thread about how to blow clouds, I don't think anyone responded to it!
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Sadly, I don't think so. People see what they see on TV, the internet, their friends. People don't think for themselves, nor do they have an open mind.
A generality in some places, but for the most part...
A generality in some places, but for the most part...
I think a good part of the problem with the medical community, especially in the US, is that it is only recently, within the last year or so, that quality studies are finally being published in mainstream, peer reviewed journals. Without that, it's hard to expect someone's doctor to simply rely on a news story that vaping is great. As more information comes out, more in the medical community will be more comfortable viewing it in a positive manner.
And yes, there still could be longer term issues we are currently unaware of that might pop up, and the responsible thing to do is encourage attention and surveillance for currently unknown risks, but so far the risk benefit analysis has been coming out with vaping beating cigarettes. But 5 years from now when there's a goat's head growing out of my left shoulder, you can bet I'll be back pointing fingers around here.
when vaping went from people using eCigs to merely quit smoking, to extreme, big cloud, look at me, hobby vaping ... it was over on the public ever accepting vaping.
when I first started vaping in 2013, I honestly thought we would see vaping indoors at certain cafes, patios and pubs ... then, cloud chasing, hobby vaping took over and killed that from ever happening.
it's kinda like folks who would normally have a couple of beers ... are now chugging kegs of beer through funnels ... and still want the public to consider them casual social drinkers
when I first started vaping in 2013, I honestly thought we would see vaping indoors at certain cafes, patios and pubs ... then, cloud chasing, hobby vaping took over and killed that from ever happening.
it's kinda like folks who would normally have a couple of beers ... are now chugging kegs of beer through funnels ... and still want the public to consider them casual social drinkers
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