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is sad my country don;t allow I personally tried

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  1. DeviLFisH

    DeviLFisH Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 5, 2008
    last weekend I was in non smoking area in this cafe sneak smoke actually

    than happen to blow vapour out ...and the person told me have to smoke in smoking areas..

    I show him ..even he said is an electronics gadget that produce smoke
    this also consider smoking .
  2. TheEmperorOfIceCream

    TheEmperorOfIceCream Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 1, 2008
    London, UK
    Did you point out that it's not smoke, but water vapour?
  3. DeviLFisH

    DeviLFisH Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 5, 2008

    :oops: still don;t believe to ppl like here is consider smoking as long got vapour like smoke
  4. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jan 13, 2008
    Port Charlotte, FL USA
    Perception is important. That is why you want to hold minimal vapor in your lungs and not exhale any visible vapor. This won't be a problem for Singapore alone ...
  5. DeviLFisH

    DeviLFisH Super Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 5, 2008
    :rolleyes:abit off topic here but just see how strict sg can be ...

    Not so innocent smoke

    by Ellen Joy Anastacio

    All Mohd Zahari Bin Matnin wanted to do while he was at Causeway Point Shopping Centrel was to take a quick puff.

    Little did the 39-year-old Singaporean know that this would lead to his arrest - and a $2,200 fine.

    Earlier this month, on July 24, Mohd Zahari was at the shopping centre when Singapore Customs officers conducting enforcement rounds saw him taking out a cigarette stick.

    Suspecting the packet to be duty-unpaid, they approached him. On seeing the officer's warrant card, Mohd Zahari turned and ran off, but was apprehended after a short chase. During the arrest, he continuously shouted vulgarities -"F**k you" at the officer.

    He was sentenced by the court to fines totalling $2,200 or in default 17 days imprisonment for three counts of offences under the Customs Act, including verbally abusing a Singapore Customs officer and for possession of duty-unpaid cigarettes.

    He was not the only one to be arrested, 39 buyers and eight illegal peddlers were caught when Singapore Customs conducted island-wide enforcement raids at Geylang, Tampines, Bedok, Marsiling, Aljunied, Boon Lay, Jurong East and Woodlands from July 23 -24, 2008, said a media release.

    The statement also said that 2,707 packets of duty unpaid cigarettes were seized from various hiding places such as in the back alley rubbish chutes, unused letter boxes, electric risers, hanging from tree branches, in the drains, etc.

    Mr Lee Boon Chong, Assistant Director-General of Customs (Intelligence & Investigation) said, "Singapore Customs will continue to mount more enforcement raids island-wide. We are also deploying more uniformed enforcement manpower to step up checks. With a heavier penalty in place, we want to remove the demand for illegal cigarettes to clamp down illegal peddling and buying activities. We urge the public to support our cause and stay away from illegal cigarettes."

    Singapore Customs warns that buying, selling, conveying, delivering, storing, keeping, having in possession or dealing with contraband cigarettes are serious offences under the Customs and GST Acts.

    Members of the public who have information on cigarette smuggling or peddling activities can call the Singapore Customs hotline at 1800-2330000 or email

    39 people fined S$500 each for buying illegal cigarettes
    By Hoe Yeen Nie, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 30 July 2008 1938 hrs

    SINGAPORE: Thirty-nine people have been hit with high fines for buying illegal cigarettes, following a crackdown last weekend.

    This is the first major operation by Singapore Customs since the standardised penalty of S$500 was imposed on July 15.

    Previously, only first-time offenders nabbed in contraband hotspots in Geylang and Yew Tee would be subject to a fine of this amount.

    Some 2,700 packets of duty-unpaid cigarettes - hidden in back alley rubbish chutes, drains and unused letter boxes - were seized in the operation.

    Packets of duty-unpaid cigarettes were even found hanging from tree branches and stashed away in electric risers.

    Eight sellers were also arrested in the raids which were conducted in the eastern and western parts of Singapore, such as Geylang, Tampines, Jurong and Woodlands.

    To remove the demand for illegal cigarettes, the authorities have pledged to mount more raids islandwide.

    One buyer, 39-year-old Mohd Zahari Matnin, has received more than the standard S$500 fine as he was also convicted of hurling vulgarities at a customs officer.

    He was fined a total of S$2,200 for three charges under the Customs Act.

    Singapore Customs said the new S$500 penalty is aimed at reducing the number of illegal cigarettes on the market.

    In the first half of 2008, 1.6 million packets of duty-unpaid cigarettes were seized, and 2,549 buyers were caught and fined.

    - CNA/so
  6. jimldk

    jimldk Super Member ECF Veteran

    Very nice country...:p:rolleyes:
  7. TheEmperorOfIceCream

    TheEmperorOfIceCream Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 1, 2008
    London, UK
    From The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame

    Mr Toad of Toad Hall is in court for stealing a car:

    Well, Your Honour. Some people would consider that stealing the motor car was the worst offence, and so it is. But cheeking the police carries the severest penalty, and so it ought. Suppose you were to say: twelve months for the theft, which is mild; three years for the furious driving, which is lenient, and fifteen years for the cheek, which was pretty bad sort of cheek. Those figures, if added together correctly, tot up to nineteen years. So you had better make it a round twenty years and be on the safe side.

    Fishy, Mr Mohd was asking for it...

  8. jimldk

    jimldk Super Member ECF Veteran

    And all he wants is a puff....boy, that one really blows the amber hot...
  9. leaford

    leaford Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    That got me too, Emp. Charged and fined for cursing at the cops! Democratic country, maybe, but a country with free expression? Definitely not.
  10. TheEmperorOfIceCream

    TheEmperorOfIceCream Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 1, 2008
    London, UK
    I was really playing the Mr Mohd gag, but yeah it's draconian. I have to say though, as a local he must have known calling out the cops wasn't a great idea.

  11. hidoshi

    hidoshi Full Member Verified Member

    Jun 27, 2008
    singapore is a "fine" country :)
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