I'm going to Demonstrate my Incomplete Understanding of Chemistry.
But is there a Difference between Quinine Hydrochloride and Quinine Sulfate?
But is there a Difference between Quinine Hydrochloride and Quinine Sulfate?
But the real question is are the resulting molecules the same.The main objective of a salt-selection study is to identify the salt form most suitable for development.
But the real question is are the resulting molecules the same.
Because if so, there is no real difference.
I Googled it up briefly, but didn't immediately come across any molecular diagrams of either.
So I opted not to post a reply because I am not bored enough to search further.
Where is Kurt when you need him?
I remember this Hydrochloride vs Sulfate conversation came up with Regards to Nicotine and the Juul.
I just don't remember what the Consensus was.
Well, that (consensus or in the case of case studies) is another factor - the side effects, where sulphates (or hydrochlorides) may be incompatible with other things going on in the body and the patients reports of effectiveness on symptoms.
There are also restrictions on taking quinine for other factors. The G6PD deficiency is one, I happen to have it - as a result, malaria tablets make me more susceptible to malaria - I've had two types and several relapses of both, although no longer. So I can't take quinine or any equivalent that would cause hemolysis - rupture of red blood cells.
Well, that (consensus or in the case of case studies) is another factor - the side effects, where sulphates (or hydrochlorides) may be incompatible with other things going on in the body and the patients reports of effectiveness on symptoms.
There are also restrictions on taking quinine for other factors. The G6PD deficiency is one, I happen to have it - as a result, malaria tablets make me more susceptible to malaria - I've had two types and several relapses of both, although no longer. So I can't take quinine or any equivalent that would cause hemolysis - rupture of red blood cells.
So does Quinine Hydrochloride and Quinine Sulfate have the Exact same effect on the Body when taken Orally?
Which part didn't you understand?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glucose-6-phosphate_dehydrogenase_deficiencyNo idea what the G6PD deficiency is. I've found that quinine gives me a terribly dry mouth and throat, like the atropine they give you for surgery.
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The part about "Do they Both have the Exact Same Effect(s) on the Body when taken Orally"?
It's kinda a Yes/No question.
Thankyou. The bad chemicals often discussed in this forum are neither confirmed nor denied. Now that I'm doing DIY I'm responsible for what's in the mix so why not settle on a flavor I like that's least likely to have problems or may be I'll learn to vape unflavored. The cuppucco flavor does have a 'buttery' taste. Should I be suspicious of that? If the questionable chemicals that worry people iin this forum are so risky why aren't the Antz folks bringing them up? Mostly they throw slow pitches.At that link - last line in 'Details':
Ingredients:Natural & Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Water,Quinine Hydrochloride
Thankyou. The bad chemicals often discussed in this forum are neither confirmed nor denied. Now that I'm doing DIY I'm responsible for what's in the mix so why not settle on a flavor I like that's least likely to have problems or may be I'll learn to vape unflavored. The cuppucco flavor does have a 'buttery' taste. Should I be suspicious of that? If the questionable chemicals that worry people iin this forum are so risky why aren't the Antz folks bringing them up? Mostly they throw slow pitches.
Thankyou. The bad chemicals often discussed in this forum are neither confirmed nor denied. Now that I'm doing DIY I'm responsible for what's in the mix so why not settle on a flavor I like that's least likely to have problems or may be I'll learn to vape unflavored. The cuppucco flavor does have a 'buttery' taste. Should I be suspicious of that? If the questionable chemicals that worry people iin this forum are so risky why aren't the Antz folks bringing them up? Mostly they throw slow pitches.
In the first couple of days surfing news stories it was obvious what is happening and nothing has come up since to change my view. Follow the money. I've posted hundreds of counter points on news stories which has helped my thinking on the the topic. The most powerful argument I've got right now, that it really is about the money, is the cost difference between cigarettes and cost efficient vaping,--upwards of -98% with DIY. If you rebuild and mix DIY vaping is free for practical purposes. Governments have smokers on public assistance. Cigarettes are so expensive that switching them to ecigs could literally lift some families above the poverty line. Combine that with likely lower medicaid costs and we're talking about some serious money. It might even be that the money saved in public assistance more than offsets a decline in cigarette taxes. If there is a strong case for that then what we are up against is ruthless drug dealers pretending to be government officials.They do and they have. They just don't focus all of their attention on it because they are more concerned about banning vaping completely. They actually don't give a damn about your lungs. They have other goals, such as convincing you that your child is hooked on that E-cig like a crack addict.
Even if diketones or any other potentially harmful chemicals were never found in e-cigs, the e-cig haters would still grab a large cotton sock, write on the sock "danger will robinson", put rocks in it and bash you over the head with it until you never touched an e-cig again.
Do they say you should avoid tonic (as in "gin and tonic") as well?Well, that (consensus or in the case of case studies) is another factor - the side effects, where sulphates (or hydrochlorides) may be incompatible with other things going on in the body and the patients reports of effectiveness on symptoms.
There are also restrictions on taking quinine for other factors. The G6PD deficiency is one, I happen to have it - as a result, malaria tablets make me more susceptible to malaria - I've had two types and several relapses of both, although no longer. So I can't take quinine or any equivalent that would cause hemolysis - rupture of red blood cells.
They're really just there as preservatives. They prevent things like oxidation and decomposition. They're commonly used that way in medicines, too. They're not the main event or even intended to play any role, other than preserving the important stuff. If you read the bottles of tonic, usually the more expensive name brands have the sulfate.I'm going to Demonstrate my Incomplete Understanding of Chemistry.
But is there a Difference between Quinine Hydrochloride and Quinine Sulfate?