Joyetech Evic VT 60 Watt

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BNEAT

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Mine is also working very good now, I rly like the Evic but that little gremlin visited me 2 days ago again and all the .... was back, again like the moments before it happened outside the house, you should think that's a trigger to the problem especially when more ppl will confirm this but maybe it's a coincidence.
Ohms are also stable (with or without lock) and the readings are very close to my dmm and other mods.

I use it in Ti mode only and to get a good comparable vape with my Waidea Flask I need to set the temp between 550-570 at 50-60 W, a little bit high I think, I thought the Evic was fine tuned for Ti gr.1 and I use that so maybe there are differences in resistance between the gr.1 wires. Being a Taifun GT v2 fan I can only speak for this tank yet.

It's a very nice mod when it stays like this, So lets find the gremlin and kill him ;)
Even when the gremlin jumps in, it still works fine, you just have to guess at the temp you need.

I'm playing with a tank built with dual Kanthal coils today (wanted the juice that was in it, but too lazy to rebuild with Ti) and the ohms are exactly the same as my DNA. As expected, the eVic works great in VW mode.
 

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Even when the gremlin jumps in, it still works fine, you just have to guess at the temp you need.

I'm playing with a tank built with dual Kanthal coils today (wanted the juice that was in it, but too lazy to rebuild with Ti) and the ohms are exactly the same as my DNA. As expected, the eVic works great in VW mode.

I've been vaping in VW mode and frankly, I like the eGo One mega for that - it's shorter than most others and performs well, no leaks, good vapor, good flavor (not as good as the subtank or lemo). I have some Ni coils for it and will likely try them when I'm finished with the current coil.
 

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Small update

I kept switching attys between the VT and the dna and I noticed that both read the same atty at the exactly same resistance initially:

Erlprinz: 0.36
Mutation X: 0.31
Ego Mega: 0.4

However, after a few hours, the dna refines and the values drop:

Erlprinz: 0.34
Mutation X: 0.28
Ego Mega: 0.36


Now, based on the latest numbers I would say the dna is more precise HOWEVER, that precision is put on scrutiny when you consider a 'marked' 0.40 ohm head used in the ego mega being refined to 0.36.

Honestly, the vape on both devices is great. The VT is smoother while the dna feels like having more punch (at the same wattages). I'm only bringing this up because it intrigues me why these discrepancies only happen after refinement?

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Looks great, what coil ID and res? I'd like to order some G1 Ti and do the same build for my Billow.
2.4mm ID.
Oops.... that pic is of a previous build with 6 wraps. It was around 0.32 ohms iirc.

Im currently using 5 wraps at 2.4mm ID and its sitting at 0.21 ohms.

Im new to Ti wire and temp control, and this eVic experience is my first with both. But it seems as if my resistance becomes more and more stable the longer I use a Ti coil. It jumps around a bit with new coils and even jumps out of TC into VW sometimes. But after a few tankfulls of juice, it becomes rock solid. I dont know if this is normal with titanium coils.
 

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The timer on my eVic has crossed 10,000 so time for an update..

So far I have used 3 types of setups in TC/TP, and I noticed that with each one you need to "dial in" the eVic differently to get the best result.

1st I used the Kanger NiOCC coils, and although the resistance bounces around for the first day (then settles in) it was the easiest to set up the sweet spot for where the mod doesn't overwork... You could set it at 35W and it easily produced 400F-500F. I was vaping 35W/500F as my "go to spot" and it was a nice warm vape not to hot..
(If only the actual coil was good and you could get rich flavor for more then a few days lol lets see what their verticals will do)

2nd I did a RBA build in the Kanger STM reading originally at .07ohm.. and for 5 days it has read either .07 or .06.... With this build I am running it at 35W and will go between 350F and 450F and that is going from a cool relaxing vape to a hot vape. The 450F on this setup is hotter then the 500F on the coils, and thats will the tighter pull of the RBA... Personally I love this set up, but I will be testing some different coil resistances next week (cause I heard the eVic's sweet spot is in the 0.10-.16ohm range)

3rd I got in the Smok TCT NiCoils and was excited to try the double coil setup... These puppies NEED power... I used the same setups as before and got almost nothing.. It wasn't till I watched it in the mirror did I see that it was starving for power.. To get a nice 450F-550F Vape you need to give it 50-60W. Once you give it the needed power, it does produce a nice flavor/cloud but not even close to what this tank can do with regular coils.. This was the first "double nickel coil" that I tried (have others in route) but first impression is that for TC/TP double coils might not be needed considering the amount of power needed to use them just to get the same temp/clouds/flavor as a good single coil setup...So I quickly yanked the Smok Tank, and went back to my RBA setup lol

It looks like there will be several factors to "dial in" the eVic for whatever tank/rba/deck you are using, and although I didn't understand how/why 500F feels hotter on one setup then another, honestly it don't bother me.. If the eVic cost $200+ and was one of the "top of the line" mods I would expect perfection, (at the minimum all temps should be accurate), but this isn't one of those devices. Now I'm not giving joytech a pass, just pointing out reality. Its an entry level device IMO, and regular power mode alone the eVic kills it.. A 60w device put together like this alone is worth the price of this puppy, but we all get so much more.. I would rather learn TC on this then move up if I want to or find out that I really don't like TC, and still have a kickass device then to drop $200+ to find out..

I have been loving the temp control.. Very happy with this purchase..
Thats all for tonight (jeez about time I been babbling forever..)

Peace out and Vape On....
 
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The timer on my eVic has crossed 10,000 so time for an update..

So far I have used 3 types of setups in TC/TP, and I noticed that with each one you need to "dial in" the eVic differently to get the best result.

1st I used the Kanger NiOCC coils, and although the resistance bounces around for the first day (then settles in) it was the easiest to set up the sweet spot for where the mod doesn't overwork... You could set it at 35W and it easily produced 400F-500F. I was vaping 35W/500F as my "go to spot" and it was a nice warm vape not to hot..
(If only the actual coil was good and you could get rich flavor for more then a few days lol lets see what their verticals will do)

2nd I did a RBA build in the Kanger STM reading originally at .07ohm.. and for 5 days it has read either .07 or .06.... With this build I am running it at 35W and will go between 350F and 450F and that is going from a cool relaxing vape to a hot vape. The 450F on this setup is hotter then the 500F on the coils, and thats will the tighter pull of the RBA... Personally I love this set up, but I will be testing some different coil resistances next week (cause I heard the eVic's sweet spot is in the 1.0-1.6ohm range)

3rd I got in the Smok TCT NiCoils and was excited to try the double coil setup... These puppies NEED power... I used the same setups as before and got almost nothing.. It wasn't till I watched it in the mirror did I see that it was starving for power.. To get a nice 450F-550F Vape you need to give it 50-60W. Once you give it the needed power, it does produce a nice flavor/cloud but not even close to what this tank can do with regular coils.. This was the first "double nickel coil" that I tried (have others in route) but first impression is that for TC/TP double coils might not be needed considering the amount of power needed to use them just to get the same temp/clouds/flavor as a good single coil setup...So I quickly yanked the Smok Tank, and went back to my RBA setup lol

It looks like there will be several factors to "dial in" the eVic for whatever tank/rba/deck you are using, and although I didn't understand how/why 500F feels hotter on one setup then another, honestly it don't bother me.. If the eVic cost $200+ and was one of the "top of the line" mods I would expect perfection, (at the minimum all temps should be accurate), but this isn't one of those devices. Now I'm not giving joytech a pass, just pointing out reality. Its an entry level device IMO, and regular power mode alone the eVic kills it.. A 60w device put together like this alone is worth the price of this puppy, but we all get so much more.. I would rather learn TC on this then move up if I want to or find out that I really don't like TC, and still have a kickass device then to drop $200+ to find out..

I have been loving the temp control.. Very happy with this purchase..
Thats all for tonight (jeez about time I been babbling forever..)

Peace out and Vape On....
I assume you meant .15-.26......not 1.5-1.6 :p
 

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I assume you meant .15-.26......not 1.5-1.6 :p

I was wondering about that. :?:

Whoopsie typo... you talking about the "sweet spot?" I meant .10-.16ohm
I've heard that is supposed to be the perfect area to build in,, me personally I'm lovin my .07ohm, but hell I'll try it out and see this week

If that was the only typo in that novel Im happy lolol
 

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Question: Is anyone finding a difference in temperature settings/experience with different mass of coils? i.e. a 30g ,0.12Ω coil responds differently than a 26g, 0.12Ω coil? I expect ramp up time to be a bit longer with 26g. Anything else?

I'm just looking for ordering some Ti wire, the one I have is 26g (I like it) and I'm looking for 25g-24g, don't have any below that 26g so cannot compare, any recommendations ?
 

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Yes indeed it seems they lie about that, but why? I don't know, I like Joyetech but I don't think it's good for their customers trust if they are lie about specs.

They may be lying about the total capacity of the battery pack. They may not be. Three cells, wired in parallel; each cell may measure approximately 1500mAh but the pack, as a whole, may measure approximately 5000mAh. Li-Po batteries are perfectly safe for our use. Balanced charging is only required when the cells are wired in series.
 

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@aldenf They may be lying about the total capacity of the battery pack. They may not be. Three cells, wired in parallel; each cell may measure approximately 1500mAh but the pack, as a whole, may measure approximately 5000mAh

Are you saying a 3x1500mAh pack par=5000mAh or very close ? but I don't mind, I like the battery life of the VT!
 
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@aldenf They may be lying about the total capacity of the battery pack. They may not be. Three cells, wired in parallel; each cell may measure approximately 1500mAh but the pack, as a whole, may measure approximately 5000mAh

Are you saying a 3x1500mAh pack par=5000mAh or very close ? but I don't mind, I like the battery life of the VT!

I'm saying that three individual cells, wired in parallel and discharged as a pack in total, in a test setting, WILL exhibit different discharge characteristics than the individual cells. The numbers printed on batteries are not exact and usually vary plus or minus. Watt-hours and/or milliamp-hours printed on labels are not exact, simply guidelines.
 
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