Wrap it on a 3mm mandrel like in the video at 8:57
Do it like he does and I promise you it wont leak.
Do it like he does and I promise you it wont leak.
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Interesting regarding the capacity as I've only filled mine halfway so far incase of leaking and wasting juice. Will top it up and see what happens!
Regarding spit back and gurgling, I've not had any as the length of the chimney seems to stop it spitting.
Agree with length of chimney controlling spit back. After you fill your tank vape it for a few hits to establish your vacuum.
Using RBA now with Nickel build at 0.1 ohms. followed video above and no leaks so far. tighter draw than the stock coil, but better flavour. Will see how it goes.
Watched this video from the same guy. Pretty damming on the temperature control.
TC test @29 mins
Watched this video from the same guy. Pretty damming on the temperature control.
TC test @29 mins
I also tried the stock nickel SSOCC coil in my subtank mini and IPV D2.
Big improvement on the normal ni200 subtank coils and a far better vape than in the NeBox. So looks like the new coils are good at least.
What I really need is the NeBox fitted with the chip from the D2...
Big improvement on the normal ni200 subtank coils and a far better vape than in the NeBox. So looks like the new coils are good at least.
What I really need is the NeBox fitted with the chip from the D2...
Good Find! Been checking for that promised video each night since he said he would do it in the quick look video. I know it is new. I figured he would give us the straight scoop if anyone would. Guess I better watch it now!
Now that the video has been watched in its entirety, I applaud Daniel for being the only REVIEWER out of the at least 25 or more who have posted reviews on this device to point out that the TC Mode on this device is an almost total failure. I am disappointed and appalled that he did not point out that this condition is DANGEROUS in the hands of an inexperienced user and deserves nothing less than an immediate cessation of manufacturing, an recall of all malfunctioning devices, and a public apology by Kangertech for rushing to market with a device without an adequate QC Program in place.
I feel that Kangertech rushing this unsafe device to market in this manner will unduely expose uneducated users to potential health risks from ingesting chemicals produced by overheated coils and greatly adversely affect the vaping communities fight with legislators all over the world for the unregulated availability of these devices to remain on the market.
When a manufacturer with the worldwide reputation of Kangertech releases an unsafe product to market in this manner with out an immediate recall, it will only provide the FDA, World Health Organizations and Legislators around the world with the ammunition they need to ban the availability of these devices altogether!
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I'm with you all the way on this one mate, gonna contact my vendor for a refund as this thing is not fit for purpose. I honestly can't believe they would release a product advertised as temperature protected and not actually implement the protection part. I dont want to recreate the results by vaping my tank dry and ending up with an oxidised ti coil!
For us early adopters though I don't see any course of action other than returning the devices as there is no firmware upgradability. What will you do Tpat591?
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Not sure what to do with mine. Might keep it for non TC use, maybe With the new Clapton coils when they are out.
Don't expect Kangertech to replace the existing units though.
Don't expect Kangertech to replace the existing units though.
As I said in other thread, I believe a fix is in the works right now. I have the mod I ordered two days after this one backordered until the end of the month right now. That isn't just because they are selling so many of a very controversial and problem plagued mod. Hopefully it will be a two to three week delay and working units will arrive to a location near you. It is too big of a screw-up for them not to fix it immediately.
I will probably use this until the Red one I ordered arrives & hopefully that one will work fine. Then I'll contact Breazy and tell them now that I have a working one I realized the early black one was malfunctioning right along and request replacement under warranty. Just have to check their return policy.
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They will have to. Once this is documented as not user error, they will have no choice but to stand behind it. They know what they did.
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can someone do a cotton burn test with this device with nickel preferably, or ti at 420°F full wattage.. then post sum pics up before and after of the coil.
In the video above about 29min in, Daniel was doing cotton burn tests with Ni200 and Ti. Not only did it burn the cotton in the coils but it torched the coils with temps exceeding 1,200 degrees f. We are well beyond cotton burn tests. These are COIL BURN TESTS!
Right now I am set at 60W @ 260 deg f and receiving a vape comparable to a DNA200 @ 480 deg f. If I take two back to back the second one is hotter! Temp control is a total failure and all over the map in these preorder units. I preordered two of them 2 days apart. Received 1 and was informed the other would be delayed in shipping from Kanger in china until at least 11/17 with expected delivery at end of month. Kanger obviously must have shut down product to fix the problem I HOPE!
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Screen grabs from Daniel's Video of the Temperature Control Bar Charts for Nebox if anyone needs these to prove the temperature Control is not working too well on this mod.
NI200 Mode:
sp: 300 deg f Actual: 1240 deg f
sp: 400 deg f Actual: 1240 deg f
sp: 450 deg f Actual: 876 deg f
TI T1 Mode:
sp: 300 deg f Actual: 1330 deg f
sp: 400 deg f Actual: 1120 deg f
sp: 450 deg f Actual: 974 deg f
NI200 Mode:
sp: 300 deg f Actual: 1240 deg f
sp: 400 deg f Actual: 1240 deg f
sp: 450 deg f Actual: 876 deg f
TI T1 Mode:
sp: 300 deg f Actual: 1330 deg f
sp: 400 deg f Actual: 1120 deg f
sp: 450 deg f Actual: 974 deg f
1st Pic is Ti coil that survived the 300 deg f test covered with titanium dioxide, 2nd pic is nickel coil that failed during the 300 degree test Think that is pretty conclusive.
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Kanger Nebox Starter Kit - New Concept Temperature Control
Not a cotton burn test but Bru2basics vaped his tank dry and just for giggles wanted to see what would happen if he kept pressing the button at 40w @ 180 deg C in the above post. That is about 350 deg f - Notice the white crust on the coil that he believes is Titanium Dioxide.
Here it is, best I could get but the coil does look white and as you can see the cotton completely disintegrated. This was caused by pushing 40watts at 180°c on a dry tank. Coil is/was spaced titanium 26g grade 1.
6 wraps came in at .23 on all my meters, nebox read it at .27! I could see the coil glowing down the chimney and the smell was nasty
This device is nothing if not down right dangerous!
I've just had this reply from the vendor I emailed over the weekend and it seems to be a pretty typical response to test the water so to speak. I'm gonna throw everything I've got in an email now and hope that they have the sense to question kanger as it appears they know nothing of the issues YET!
Hi I am sorry to hear you are having issues with this, are you using the Kanger NI200 coils or are you building your own coils in the RBA section? Can you notice the resistance fluctuating? Please provide me with as much information as possible so I can assist you.
Regards
David
Hi David
I hope you will be able to help me, I'm experiencing some issues with the Nebox I received this week. It would appear to have some sort of defect in the software that is preventing the temperature control from working properly. I've experienced some rather concerning results when using the nebox with both ni200 and titanium regarding the temperature accuracy and indeed the ability of the mod to regulate the temperature correctly and has resulted in some very unpleasant dry hits and on one occasion Ti02 has formed on a titanium coil. As you are aware this is negating the entire point of temperature control. There are a number of reports on various forums of this occurring and I feel that Kangertech will need contacting about this matter to see if they are aware and if so what they intend to do about it. I've included a link to a review that has just come to light showing some of the issues I've described.
Any info I get back or find on the web I will post back here or should we be starting a dedicated thread so that we don't get into a mess like the vtc thread?
Hi I am sorry to hear you are having issues with this, are you using the Kanger NI200 coils or are you building your own coils in the RBA section? Can you notice the resistance fluctuating? Please provide me with as much information as possible so I can assist you.
Regards
David
Hi David
I hope you will be able to help me, I'm experiencing some issues with the Nebox I received this week. It would appear to have some sort of defect in the software that is preventing the temperature control from working properly. I've experienced some rather concerning results when using the nebox with both ni200 and titanium regarding the temperature accuracy and indeed the ability of the mod to regulate the temperature correctly and has resulted in some very unpleasant dry hits and on one occasion Ti02 has formed on a titanium coil. As you are aware this is negating the entire point of temperature control. There are a number of reports on various forums of this occurring and I feel that Kangertech will need contacting about this matter to see if they are aware and if so what they intend to do about it. I've included a link to a review that has just come to light showing some of the issues I've described.
Any info I get back or find on the web I will post back here or should we be starting a dedicated thread so that we don't get into a mess like the vtc thread?
PMed my email to my vendor to you in case any of it helps you in preparing your reply. For now, since we are blazing the trail for others I would say posit it here. It is not like this has become an I love Nebox thread and we all seem to be in agreement these units have some issues. If people were fighting I would say another thread was needed but not in this case yet. Lets see how they react first.
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