Non-smokers vaping...
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Why does anyone smoke anything? It's all gratification. I think their thing is flavor more than a nic fix, though. I never necessarily understood hookah either but it's something my peers enjoy. It's tobacco, though. Involves water and a large coal. Don't understand the logistics of it, but I would rather them vape than smoke hookah because it's safer.
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None of my biz, really, but i've heard from several parents that their children are coming home from school reporting that many kids have vape gear for the "cool" factor or something.
The ones that I spoke to were not happy about it.
I am just reporting in.
Zero nicotine hookah pens, vs real conventional cigarette = non addicted stooped crazy rebellious curious naughty experimenter. Amazing how technology can help if we let it.
Live and let live. If they are an adult, I see no issue with it. If they were my family, I would offer my opinion, but in the end it is their decision. Too many people scream for freedoms when it concerns them, but then turn right around and try to tell others how they should live. It doesn't work like that and never has.
The ONLY way freedom works is if it is good for EVERYONE. Not just you.
If a person wants to smoke cigarettes go for it. If they want to vape go for it. If they want to have a drink go for it. I do not like people telling me what to do. I sure won't tell others. If it is legal and a person abides by those laws..... anyone forbidding them or looking at them in the wrong light needs to go home sit in front of a mirror and judge themselves for the night.
You know you can't tell anything about someone age by the way they look. People think my wife is in her late 20's.
Hypocrisy, it's rampant.
You know you can't tell anything about someone age by the way they look. People think my wife is in her late 20's.
Hypocrisy, it's rampant.
I never smoked cigarettes. I was a cigar guy. One or two a week, so the nicotine never mattered to me. I came to vaping not for a nicotine fix, but because I enjoy the experience of smoking, and wanted a safer alternative. Whenever I order juice, I order it nicotine-free. For me, it's all about the process of smoking/vaping. It's a way I relax. I love sitting down before bed with a Scotch and a nice tobacco-flavored vape.
I'm sure the same is true for many. I think vaping is a great cigarette replacement for many. But for some of us, it's about the experience in and of itself. It's not the means to an end, it's the end.
I'm sure the same is true for many. I think vaping is a great cigarette replacement for many. But for some of us, it's about the experience in and of itself. It's not the means to an end, it's the end.
None of my biz, really, but i've heard from several parents that their children are coming home from school reporting that many kids have vape gear for the "cool" factor or something.
The ones that I spoke to were not happy about it.
I am just reporting in.
As a mom.... I am not happy about it. My teenager said the same thing about kids at school now carrying vape gear. She also commented on vaping being "cool". I told her it was not something I consider to be cool and that it sucks to be addicted to anything. However, we discussed it and it was dealt with. By me, not by the government.
As to nonsmokers over 18 vaping well, I guess they can do what they want but, I don't see why vaping would be a "hobby" to pick up. I like it instead of smoking. If I had never smoked I would not start vaping. After all we don't have long term studies yet. Safer than smoking? Sure... safer than just air? I doubt it. But its their choice.
Look, I smoked for many years and enjoyed it (never did it for the "cool Factor"), now I vape and enjoy that even more. Who the h--- am I to judge a young man for doing the same thing I am? That's just crazy! And the truth is, as vaping becomes more popular and widespread, there will be young people who start vaping without first smoking--because THEY ENJOY IT, just as we do. Nicotine is not the monster some imagine--it does not cause cancer or breathing problems. It is mildly addictive, but some people enjoy its effects, even if some on these pages deny it.
And if they just do it for the flavor and never start the nicotine (why would they??), it becomes just a thing to do and not a monkey on their backs like cigarettes are.
Im a person who never smoked and i vape (0 nic of course). For me vaping is not only to help people quit but i see it as a hobby as well because of all the different gears you can buy and all the things you can fiddle around with, and i love to fiddle. But i dont think kids in high school should vape HOWEVER at some point most will try something out of peer pressure and i would prefer them to vape vs something more dangerous.
Neither do I, but what makes(or made depending on your view) this country great is the ability to make your own bad choices.
Well your post made me want to weight in after all, in an honest way. The reason I posted before is that....I don't have young kids. But I will go ahead and pretend I do, for hypotheticals:
Well they won't be addicted to anything if it is zero nic.
However, I guess I wouldn't want my kids developing any of the behaviors or rituals: inhaling, pursing lips (which does create vertical wrinkes over time), putting stuff even if relatively safe into their young lungs, dealing with the SAFETY ISSUES of lithium batteries and shorted coils, chargers, etc.
AT 18 do what you want.
Otherwise, no, if I had kids at home they would not have "vaping kits". They would have library books and art supplies or a piano or guitar or something to spend that money on that would enrich them in some way. Even a really well made pair of good hiking boots from Keene or LLBean or Northface would be okay.......and COOL
Maybe get them into 4H with a pet calf or goat or something, or even a pony. All COOL. But nope, no vaping stuff for my kids under 18.
Why do people assume all minors are kids when they keep raising the age limit?
Some "kids" are billionaires, via their brains, creativity, & talents. Yet we, as a group, still picture "kids" as drooling babies without a clue...
Stereotyping never gets anyone anywhere.
Some "kids" are billionaires, via their brains, creativity, & talents. Yet we, as a group, still picture "kids" as drooling babies without a clue...
Stereotyping never gets anyone anywhere.
Well I started smoking at 13, and then a month before my 18th birthday I started vaping. That was back in March and I've never looked back. I'm a lot happier now and think it's better I started sooner rather than later.
same. smoking since I was 14 and if vaping would have been an option at age 18 or 19, I would have been on it like a hornet.
What he is-- is worse than control--he wants to 'nanny' every decision a person could make--
When I see youngsters smoking I sometimes comment to them that the rest of the world is trying to quit and they are starting. There is alot more tobacco awareness than when I was their age. It is all but banned these days and socially unacceptable by many.
My brother got into vaping after seeing my setups. I asked him to stick to 0nic as he wasn't a smoker before and I didn't want to see him get addicted to anything. He just enjoys the flavor and the clouds.. so he's happy, I'm happy and he's not smoking, win-win-win
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