Everyone who is saying how easy peasy it's gonna be to catch all this vape gear at the ports needs to go to Google Earf and scope in on the Port of Los Angeles...
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
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Yes. Now this seems a more accurate statement, without an appearance of someone gleefully cheering on vaping being regulated out of existence by the F.D.A.. Yes, it likely will be handled in courts. There are already law suits filed, or being prepared to be filed.
SeviaUSA is joining forces with CASAA, The Right To Be Smoke Free Coalition, The American Vaping Association, VTA. They are going to file suit/s to help vaping remain active, legal. It is my hope they may take a notion to possibly charge the F.D.A with R.I.C.O charges.
45 billion dollars lost in merely direct sales for five years is a great deal of motive to be corrupt. That is an observation, not a statement. 9 Billion dollars per year, a billion for every million vapers could buy a lot of influence over regulations.
The regulations as proposed risk a lot of lives, very directly and also indirectly. They put a lot of people back out of work that helps save lives. Why not ask? Why not ensure there is no corruption happening? Because of course, our government has such a reputable track record of being honest, transparent, legitimate?
Congress set a deadline of 5 Years for the x-ray for nuclear material of ALL inbound shipping containers.
At the END of that deadline, they were checking a massive Four Percent of the inbound containers.
Let me repeat that. 4%
And we're talking terrorist nuclear material here, not a case of iSticks.
U.S. Backs Off All-Cargo Scanning Goal With Inspections at 4%
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At the END of that deadline, they were checking a massive Four Percent of the inbound containers.
Let me repeat that. 4%
And we're talking terrorist nuclear material here, not a case of iSticks.
U.S. Backs Off All-Cargo Scanning Goal With Inspections at 4%
Bruce in Ocala, F
It didn't appear that way at all to me. Disagreeing is fine, but that implication is just bad form IMO. We all may have different opinions on what can happen and what will happen, but we are all still vapers with a common goal.
I thought this thread was about stockpiling. Maybe we can return to that topic.
I can see your point of view, that the FDA desires to not regulate vaping. I can see they may want Congress to do it. That may in fact be better overall. Although, it may turn out worse.
Agree that the way the questions were plied seemed to leave no win. Be something to see if they can even offer a response.
When you have unrealistic optimism in the face of a Category 5 hurricane, a little common sense is indicated. There are those who are claiming it's not going to be too bad, when in fact, after it's all said and done (providing the court cases are a flat bust), there's not going to be much of anything to see.
The deeming regulations as they're written has the potential to wipe out the majority of what we see available today. And the winner in all this will be the tobacco companies with their closed systems.
The deeming regulations as they're written has the potential to wipe out the majority of what we see available today. And the winner in all this will be the tobacco companies with their closed systems.
Why disagree with how something appears to anyone? Does that solve anything?
It may not have appeared that way to you. It did to myself and others, and we are not merely looking at one statement, in one thread. I stated how they appeared to me.
Stockpiling? Why does a need exist for doing it? I think it is a Hegelian dialectic being used on vaping in order to destroy it.
Nothing wrong with optimism, but the reality right now is pretty bleak. Acknowledging reality is always a good strategy.
Deciding to lay in supplies doesn't mean we've given up fighting, just that we recognize that the outcome might not be good.
For the same reason I buy Health/Life/Auto insurance. I hope I never need to use any of those, but having the insurance mitigates my risk. Stocking up is just another form of insurance.
And yet the FDA Proposes Regulations that would further Unnecessarily Burden Port Authority
.Speaking of which, is the Topic now Dead?
On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations
Plus, truth be told, it's kinda fun having an excuse to buy new stuff. And, regardless of what happens, it won't be wasted.
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this is nothing short of awesome! Somebody with some power calling the FDA out
All it takes is getting lucky Once to scare others from trying the same thing.
For those that would like, this is Zeller in all his
glory and others..... I can barely get through half without losing my lunch.
Flavors: 30:47
Did anyone else hit the About Us tab on the Homeland Security Committee page to see Who was in the
committee?
I almost sprayed coffee all over my laptop.
Rand Paul is one of the Majority members.
He's a good guy to have on your side. He balances out A LOT of Moonbat Crazy by himself.
Johnson, the Chairman, And Rand Paul would be a formidable one, two punch for Any cause.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
Did you listen to the Johnson interview? He came straight out and said this is something that will have to be settled in the courts....
Yes he did. And what he is currently doing is trying to expose the FDA for potential abuse of authority, poorly thought out legislation, and unintended consequences. Things that will be fought in court. It's like he's fishing for pre-trial guidance on what to fight.
I truly feel that in order for us to be successful in fighting this atrocity, it will have to be done on several fronts simultaneously.
Johnson
Courts
Congressional
Our Voices
Add them all up and you get a powerful message across to those that think they can roll over and flatten us.
Johnson
Courts
Congressional
Our Voices
Add them all up and you get a powerful message across to those that think they can roll over and flatten us.
If you expect me to believe that his only authority over the matter is to let the current suits progress or even for his committee to File one, that's not going to happen. I feel Very Confident he and his committee have Way more authority than that.
He absolutely did not say a court case is the only outcome for this. His answer was ambiguous.
But I do agree it's the Smart answer. I think the date for ID's is 12/31/16? I certainly think that the odds are very high that some court will issue an injunction to stop that before the end of the year. I certainly assume that Halo has asked for that specific injunction in their lawsuit.
What did you expect him to do, go through the entire list of what he and his committee plan for the FDA over the air??
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