The FDA and hardware (questions)

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Yiana

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'Kay. I'll break out my Kindle copy. :cool:

I got a copy on my kindle too. :D


Right. You read about stuff all the time, them picking on this group or that group, and you think, that doesn't seem right. But it's not you, or your family, or members of your political tribe, or whatever. When it hits you personally that makes it real.

Exactly. I've been awake for years and when I talked about what "they" are up to, people laughed at me and said I was crazy. And unfortunately most of what I tried to warn people has come true. Once you wake up, you can never go back to sleep. And you also see things for what they are.
 

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Once you wake up, you can never go back to sleep. And you also see things for what they are.
I hear ya :thumb: #teamredpill

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From what I'm hearing this week its going to make it to where shops and juice companies wont be able to buy from wizard labs, capella, flavor west, tfa, and many other small co. You'll only be able to buy extracts from labs that have created there flavors from the molecule up. Guaranteeing there are no harmful chemicals or chemicals that may become harmful when heated for vaping.
Most of those companies are also going to be manufacturing, bottling and labeling your local b&m. Leads me to believe availability may be an issue if your shop sells out of a popular flavor quickly.

I haven't heard much about any banning except possibly some online sales. Nothing much about taxes federally anyways.

HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!!!!


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From what I'm hearing this week its going to make it to where shops and juice companies wont be able to buy from wizard labs, capella, flavor west, tfa, and many other small co. You'll only be able to buy extracts from labs that have created there flavors from the molecule up.
Unsubstantiated rumor and here-say. Either cite sources we can access or don't post it, please.
 
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From the owner of the shops I run who's also a bottle supplier for most of the major players in the juice market. Just figured I would share what I heard. I won't do it again SORRY!!!

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Sorry if that was brusk on my part. :oops:
Dropping rumors on these boards can be just as effective as this:
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From the owner of the shops I run who's also a bottle supplier for most of the major players in the juice market. Just figured I would share what I heard. I won't do it again SORRY!!!

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No worries Will! Your post came as a breath of fresh air for me in an otherwise depressing thread!
 

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And I say, "To each their own." :thumb:

Perhaps the bigger point I'm driving at is that we as a community don't get so sucked into believing our self-generated propaganda that we lose our objectivity. There is nothing wrong with being passionate about our position in this fight, but resistance requires rational, objective thought about how we go about the business of trying to put a stop to the insanity that is the opposition to vaping.

Ask any parent what it's like trying to negotiate with an upset 2 year-old. It can't be done. We can't become that 2 year-old. :)
Mabey it's the govt. that's having the tantrum?..
 

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Mabey it's the govt. that's having the tantrum?..
They certainly seem to be acting that way at times. Then again, look at Congress… yeah, institutional irrationality and temper-tantrums sufficient enough to invoke sequestration and shut the government down. The fog is lifting… :shock:
 

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Roxy feels the same way. I've tried to warn people to be prepared. I've been called Chicken Little 3x. Some told me I'm full of crap. Some said they don't care.

Haleysdadda, I seem to recall you're telling me my "ECF guru" thing should be taken away for telling people they need more than one atty ;). Still feel that way?

I've been preparing for nearly 2 years now. Little by little, based on my income. Now when I croak, then you guys can descend like vultures. My family won't want my gear.
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From the owner of the shops I run who's also a bottle supplier for most of the major players in the juice market. Just figured I would share what I heard. I won't do it again SORRY!!!

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No, he is definitely not "a bottle supplier for most of the major players in the juice market". It looks like I would not believe him at all.
 

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No, he is definitely not "a bottle supplier for most of the major players in the juice market". It looks like I would not believe him at all.
And you know this because you're psychotic? No wait I meant Psychic! I'm always screwing those two up! LOL!
 

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From what I'm hearing this week its going to make it to where shops and juice companies wont be able to buy from wizard labs, capella, flavor west, tfa, and many other small co. You'll only be able to buy extracts from labs that have created there flavors from the molecule up. Guaranteeing there are no harmful chemicals or chemicals that may become harmful when heated for vaping.
Most of those companies are also going to be manufacturing, bottling and labeling your local b&m. Leads me to believe availability may be an issue if your shop sells out of a popular flavor quickly.

I haven't heard much about any banning except possibly some online sales. Nothing much about taxes federally anyways.

HAPPY NEW YEARS!!!!!!


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Do you have some sort of official source you can cite? I ask because so far the FDA has not mentioned anything about the composition of e-liquids, there is no list of harmful/safe chemicals. Nothing of what you have said aligns with anything that was in the proposed deeming regs that have been made public to date.
 
Sorry if that was brusk on my part. :oops:
Dropping rumors on these boards can be just as effective as this:
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I see that ..... I'm trying to get it from him. Didn't know I had to have notary of public and ..... Birth certificate OK or do I need two forms of I'd also? LMAO

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No, he is definitely not "a bottle supplier for most of the major players in the juice market". It looks like I would not believe him at all.
And you know this because you're psychotic? No wait I meant Psychic! I'm always screwing those two up! LOL!
I am sorry for your problem (I mean about screwing)...
If you kindly allow me to lead you trough a little bit of thinking, I would ask you a question: do you really believe "the major players in the juice market" would buy bottles from some vaping shop owner (and pay to unneeded middle man) or on well-developed bottle (and other similar things) market? And so on...
 
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