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  1. woody1911a1

    woody1911a1 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 18, 2010

    and got this ....

    icon hack.jpg

    how would you feel ?
  2. milo hobo

    milo hobo Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2011
    Lake Charles La
    I don't see the difference. They are both icons, correct?
  3. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Jun 12, 2008
    All are coming slotted now per ECF Instruction. This is for the final run for both.

    You are more than welcome to return it Woody :)
  4. boz

    boz Senior Member ECF Veteran

    Apr 25, 2010
    Brisbane Australia
    That body gouge is not to ECF standard, it just looks like an afterthought.
  5. CountSmackula

    CountSmackula Genisis Junkie Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 16, 2012
    Tabasco LAnd
    Does ECF set vendors 'consumer safety' & production standards now? I saw (and partially read - TLDR the whole thing) that tube mod thread, but I didn't know following it was mandatory.

    Not stirring the pot, just curious.
  6. Kevin littell

    Kevin littell Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    Covington Ga
    I would be PISSED OFF.

    Theres got to be a better way to vent that beautiful mod other then slapping it on the side with a cutting wheel and shipping it out......(And thats exactly what it looks like.)

  7. Dad2daBone

    Dad2daBone Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jan 7, 2012
    Ontario, Canada
    If the vendor makes a change to any of their products, the pics on the site should reflect the change. Would save alot of possible confusion, anger or disapointment. Since most customers are limited to online ordering and not able to see the product in person before receiving it the picture is all they have. What you see is what you should get.
  8. vapspaz

    vapspaz Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2010
    Wow! Glad I stopped by here and saw that! I was thinking of buying one but I agree with Kevin and would be pissed. I think that really destroys a beautiful looking mod. :ohmy:

    Now I gotta go educate myself as to what this ECF regulation crap is all about. :confused:
  9. Kresh

    Kresh Full Member

    May 2, 2009
    San Angelo, TX
    I would love an explaination of this ECF regulation, or at least a link to it so I can understand.
  10. ManuDawg

    ManuDawg Vape Proud Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 15, 2011
    Long Beach Ca
  11. echos67

    echos67 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 16, 2011
    Maryland, USA
    Afterthought to move the remaining mods from the last run is what it appears to be and not very much thought was put into it.

    I would return it.
  12. Kevin littell

    Kevin littell Super Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 24, 2011
    Covington Ga
    Soo.......Did you return it??
  13. Str8V8ping

    Str8V8ping Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Sep 10, 2011
    Thats rediculous . Way to kill a nice mod . I would have dropped my vendorship with ECF in a heartbeat before tearing holes in my mod because a forum told me to but thats just me.. I hope the entire stock wasnt chopped. I know a few vendors are talking about leaving.Its a shame. I gotta say though it looks better then the new Buzz chopped but at least you have a option to buy the non chopped one and they wont sell many new chopped ones.
  14. vapspaz

    vapspaz Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2010
    I contacted PS the other day and asked if I can request an Icon without the groove and they said no and that all Icons will be shipped like this from now on. I see they just updated the picture on their web site to show this hack groove. The sad and very confusing part is that I don't "think" they have to do this. According to Roly's rules it states that only mods that can hold 2 cells are required to have these ugly grooves cut in them.

    Am I wrong, the Icon can not hold 2 cells can it?
  15. mwa102464

    mwa102464 Resting In Peace ECF Veteran

    I believe that the ECF does not regulate what Modders do but rather makes suggestions to what Safety they would like to see done. Therefore companies can do as they please, Rolygate is only looking out for people to make the Safety suggestions he has for Mods rather then to control the market place of what every mod builder can/cant do, just how I take it all in and understand it.

    As far as that Mod pictured by the OP, a nicer vent could surely be machined into that Mod then the one that has been done.
  16. Dougiestyle

    Dougiestyle Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 5, 2011
    Knoxville, TN USA
    Ugly. Would not buy.

    Something more aesthetic must be possible. Say, clean, round holes spaced evenly to accommodate the area measurement? Who am I tho? Just a guy with an idea. No big deal.
  17. vapspaz

    vapspaz Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2010
    mwa - I was very careful about how I worded my post and made sure I didn't use the word "regulate". I don't want to get banned and I really don't want to get into a discussion about what ECF (Roly) is doing. I will however say that I personally think it is VERY wrong in many many ways. Yes, safety is very important to all of us but to me it's like helmet laws. If I choose to not wear one (which I don't) it should be MY choice and not dictated to me by any government in the name of safety. Last time I checked I was born in the USA which means I have certain constitutional freedoms. Sadly our freedoms are becoming less and less due to a government that "thinks" they know what is best for us and there fore must regulate us more and more to keep us "safe". Or in other words, a nanny state. Am I safer if I wear a helmet? Maybe at 30mph and I run into the back of a car, but even with a helmet I'll still be dead if some ..... hits me head on doing 65mph.

    You used the word "regulate" which of course ECF (Roly) can not due to liability lawsuits that surely would ensue. The word "guidelines" must instead be used. But I'm a common sense kinda guy and common sense tells me that if I want to purchase something like an Icon I should be able to buy it as it was shown on the web site. But wait... Something changed and now they all must have this groove in them to make them "safer". Now why on earth would a mod maker suddenly and drastically change their product like this? You and I both know why.

    Can anyone tell me how many Icon mods have blown up while having a single 14500 battery in it of any type? I'm just curious.
  18. firhill

    firhill Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    It will take 2 X 14250 3v cells for 6v use.
  19. vapspaz

    vapspaz Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oct 21, 2010
    Ah..okay, thanks for the info. I guess that explains it.
  20. ckone180

    ckone180 Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 22, 2012
    Charlotte, NC
    The freedom street goes both ways here.
    1st, ECF has the freedom to request hacked up MODs for their own reasons.
    2nd, Vendors can choose to withdraw from ECF, offer both ways, as NotCigs, or cater to the request.

    These vendors will ultimately listen to the buyers instead of a forum's guideline, hopefully.

    I'm sure there were not tyrannical and uber-governmental motives behind these changes.
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