I'm not sure if this has been covered or not in the other large zample box threads but I figured it was worth discussing. I had noticed a blog by the owner on their site saying what we as vapers should avoid in our juice. Of course, the items listed where what we already know about (acetoin diacetyl acetyl propiony). In the blog it mentioned how we could vape without worry because zample box assures the liquids we get are of the best quality. I wrote them an email and asked what exactly that meant. What standards are they using, how do they assure us our juice is free of these items etc. I got a really great and friendly response from the head of research and development discussing the steps they take to select the liquids in our boxes. He said they constantly test liquids from each of their vendors for not only those substances but also to insure the nic level is accurate and check the alcohol levels of the liquid. He said they strive to offers juices with ZERO of the listed above no nos and any trace amounts are technically unreadable and fall within the margin of error for their test kits. I was really satisfied with his response and just thought id share in case this hasnt been addressed. Cant wait for my next box!
Spoke with zample box regarding acetoin, diacetyl and acetyl propiony
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I have no issue vaping Diketones. I am aware of the potential liability to myself and am fully responsible for any possible risk just as I was when I smoked cigarettes.
Having said that, is there any chance you would care to share a copy of their email? It smells like a public relations brush off to me.
Striving to offer juices without Diketones and guaranteeing juices without Diketones are two completely different things. It would also be interesting to know specifically what testing procedure they utilized to generate their results. Especially after DR. Farsalinos's report detailing the widespread use of Diketones in e liquid.
Inquiring minds want to know. TIA
Thanks for the post dwarfcat!
Having said that, is there any chance you would care to share a copy of their email? It smells like a public relations brush off to me.
Striving to offer juices without Diketones and guaranteeing juices without Diketones are two completely different things. It would also be interesting to know specifically what testing procedure they utilized to generate their results. Especially after DR. Farsalinos's report detailing the widespread use of Diketones in e liquid.
Inquiring minds want to know. TIA
Thanks for the post dwarfcat!
Its against forum rules to post personal emails without the consent of the author but when I get some time i just may give them a call and ask what testing they are using. Id encourage others not to be afraid to contact them if concerned or would like more info as they responded promptly and were very nice about it
II may be interested to try out Zample-box. They are not members of AEMSA nor do they put the results of their testing. In my books it means that it is ONLY talk.
We have all seen that all the talk of Suicide bunny were empty words once the independent testing of their e-juices proved they were chuck full of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl. I can accept the risks of vaping, but I demand to be informed properly of the risks with at least proper labeling.
I sent an email to Zample-box to clarify those points.
We have all seen that all the talk of Suicide bunny were empty words once the independent testing of their e-juices proved they were chuck full of diacetyl and acetyl propionyl. I can accept the risks of vaping, but I demand to be informed properly of the risks with at least proper labeling.
I sent an email to Zample-box to clarify those points.
That is correct. You can paraphrase what the content was, which is what you did in your first post. Good job!
Very fast customer service from Zample-box, they answered my queries within the hour.
They confirm that they do 'physical' tests to the liquids and infer that they don't contain diacetyl or acetyl propionyl but referred me to their suppliers for test results.
Not too sure if it is a 'pass the buck' kind of answer and a cop-out ???
Too much trouble, I think I'll move on....
They confirm that they do 'physical' tests to the liquids and infer that they don't contain diacetyl or acetyl propionyl but referred me to their suppliers for test results.
Not too sure if it is a 'pass the buck' kind of answer and a cop-out ???
Too much trouble, I think I'll move on....
Does Zamplebox advertise which suppliers liquids you are/may get with your subscription? I checked the website and couldn't find anything.
They have a list of their suppliers at the bottom of the page : https://www.zamplebox.com
No big names e-juice vendors that I could find ...
No big names e-juice vendors that I could find ...
NicQuid, Cyclops, Jackson Vapor, The Standard, Seduce Juice etc.. are pretty well known.
NicQuid is the only Aemsa member as far as i can tell.
Interesting, I know cyclops and the standard have custard/creme brulee' liquids. They've been tested to be free of offending chemicals then.
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