Tobacco Absolute ?
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It's usually added to a main tobacco as an enhancer, deepens the tobacco flavor, and/or adds some ashy notes.
My favorite is Inawera (WG) Virginia Tobacco Absolute 2%, and also the (WG) DNB 1-2%.
I add those to VZ Parliament 3% for a nice tobacco (only) flavor.
My favorite is Inawera (WG) Virginia Tobacco Absolute 2%, and also the (WG) DNB 1-2%.
I add those to VZ Parliament 3% for a nice tobacco (only) flavor.
Here is a link to some straight TA that I work with and highly recommend: Azure Vaping Search results for: 'tobacco absolute' 
It's a pure tobacco alkolyd that adds a truer tobacco taste to tobacco mixes. In it's pure form you make a 2% concentrate or 2 drops per 10ml 50/50 PG/PGA base and add to the mix at starting at 2% and work up until it's right for your taste. There is also ready to use premixed which you add right to the mix and there is 50/50 mix down which is already mixed by half so to make your concentrate you would use 4 drops instead of 2. What you get depends on where you buy it.
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I did some internet searching for Tobacco Absolute.
Seems like there is a big difference in price for TA from the various vendors:
'Ecigexpress' sells 10 ml of TA that has been diluted to 50% strength with pure grain alcohol for $4.99
'Azure Vaping' sells a very small 1.5 ml vial that is also diluted to 50% strength with alcohol for $5.00 ... that's a big difference from the Ecigexpress price !
Seems like there is a big difference in price for TA from the various vendors:
'Ecigexpress' sells 10 ml of TA that has been diluted to 50% strength with pure grain alcohol for $4.99
'Azure Vaping' sells a very small 1.5 ml vial that is also diluted to 50% strength with alcohol for $5.00 ... that's a big difference from the Ecigexpress price !
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I can't really comment on either as far as quality of those because I've not tried them but agree that is a huge difference. I use pure TA and do my own diluting. As you can see what I buy is also expensive and amounts to 4 mls when diluted to 50%. But I know the quality is what I expect it to be. This particular TA is less ashy and slightly sweeter then the virginia and is suited more towards the pipe and cigar or more exotic tobacco type mixes but can be taylored for a more ashy taste by adding some inawera DNB. So to me this is a more rounded best of both worlds TA. The Virginia is less sweet and more ashy and is more suited for the cigarette types of mixes.
http://www.wingedseed.com/15322/TOBACCO+ABSOLUTE.html
http://www.wingedseed.com/15322/TOBACCO+ABSOLUTE.html
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Thanks for the reply and info .. but
....... "is cigar-like with slightly fruity animal dung notes".
how nice!
Thanks for the reply and info .. but
....... "is cigar-like with slightly fruity animal dung notes".
how nice!
I saw that last year when I was researching tobacco absolute. I thought what...? 
Hoosier ...
From there website, it looks like the Rustica TA is not diluted at all.
From your experience, if I was to buy a small 2ml vial of this Rustica and dilute it to 50% strength (the 2ml of Rustica TA with 2ml of Everclear), I obviously would then have 4ml ... Would it be too much to add 1 drop of this diluted Rustica for every 10 ml of finished cigar tobacco flavored juice?
Thanks,
From there website, it looks like the Rustica TA is not diluted at all.
From your experience, if I was to buy a small 2ml vial of this Rustica and dilute it to 50% strength (the 2ml of Rustica TA with 2ml of Everclear), I obviously would then have 4ml ... Would it be too much to add 1 drop of this diluted Rustica for every 10 ml of finished cigar tobacco flavored juice?
Thanks,
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You were the one that turned me on to it. Remember when you sent me the 2 samples of cuban one with rustica and one with Virginia.
I've used anywhere from 2% to 10% pure TA to mix my concentrate. Then used anywhere from 2% - 5% of the concentrate in my mix.
I would say start with .5ml TA in 9.5ml's base to create the concentrate which will give you a 5% solution and use 2 - 4% of the concentrate in the mix and go from there.
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One stop DIY shop has tobacco absolute concentrate in 1/4oz jars for a good price. Since you only use 1/32tsp to make 15ml of the base it would last a looong time. I add 10 drops per 15ml to my base mix. It adds just what I need for tobacco flavor. Any more and it's like an old cigarette, you know, the ones you find in the car after a year or two. It comes with the small spoon and the company sent me some nitrile gloves and pipettes free. It gets better with age as a base mix, the third month it was perfect! So, I freeze that, and take it out when I fill my bottles.
It comes with the small spoon and the company sent me some nitrile gloves and pipettes free. It gets better with age as a base mix, the third month it was perfect! So, I freeze that, and take it out when I fill my bottles.
Now I am confused ..
In my case, I don't want to add this Rustica TA to the various concentrated tobacco flavorings I initially use to make my DIY juice ... What I am thinking is to just add it to the completed tobacco flavored juice that I have already made.
If this Winged Seed Rustica TA is full strength (it must be very thick), I would first just cut in in half with Everclear. That would really make it to be 50% of the original strength (the other 50% to be alcohol).
Then just add so many drops of this 50% strength Rustica TA to the already finished tobacco based flavored DIY juice that I have already made ... I was just thinking maybe 1 drop of the 50% strength Rustica to every 10ml of juice I already have made from before.
Or maybe 2 or 3 drops for every 10 ml of pre-made tobacco flavored juice? ... I don't have a clue as to how strong this stuff really is (especially when cut to 50% of it's original strength with an equal amount of alcohol)
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I take the pure TA and dilute it to 10% in PGA..
From there I could have a fraction if .1ml of that mix in a 30ml bottle up to just under 3ml. Depends on what I'm going for and which kind of pure TA I'm using.
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From there I could have a fraction if .1ml of that mix in a 30ml bottle up to just under 3ml. Depends on what I'm going for and which kind of pure TA I'm using.
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So, you basically are taking 1ml of this TA and mixing 9ml of PG or alcohol in with it. You now have 10ml of this cut TA flavoring.
Then taking this 10% strength TA mixture and only adding a couple of drops of it per 10ml of actual finished juice.
WoW ... that's a very very weak solution of your original full-strength TA!
Well, considering pure TA is like working with tar, highly diluted makes it much easier to work with. And it's still pretty strong stuff.
And, I use a syringe that is on it's last leg because after sucking up TA, it's pretty much useless. (Well useless to me because I don't want to spend that much time cleaning.)
And, I use a syringe that is on it's last leg because after sucking up TA, it's pretty much useless. (Well useless to me because I don't want to spend that much time cleaning.)
About to buy the rustica, I have not worked with any TA yet in my tobaccos, but I have been jonesing for a real pipe tobacco and cigars...not going to smoke again though, and seems TA will be a few steps closer to getting to a real tobacco taste. Plan to mix it down to 10% like Hoosier said, and go from there likely only 1% or so in the final juice. I really only have FA tobacco flavors right now though, and TA may help them out, may get some NET from myvapejuice, but still on the fence with it.
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