Well it's not smoking....So what is it?

[Oliver]

"E-smoking" is a bit of a handful, "Misting" sounds far too fey, "Vaporizing" or "Vaping" has drug connotations.

There must be a better word for my new hobby! Suggestions?

 

[Super-Smoker]

"E-smoking" is a bit of a handful

Really? It's only one extra letter... It will do for me.

 

[Oliver]

Ah, but we aren't smoking "Es" though are we!

 

[TropicalBob]

Here's the part I don't like: In public comments in blogs posted with stories about the e products, there's a perception that this is "Pretend Smoking." Using a funky electronic device is likened to a child sucking a straw with one end on fire (didn't everyone try that?). You wanna smoke .. then smoke. You wanna pretend you're a smoker, this is the perfect product. And the public thlnks e-smoking looks damn silly.

That eye-opening perception will keep me doing this in private. I'm not a pretend smoker and this is, to me, a way to avoid the hazards of sucking in real smoke with its tar content.

There's also the question of whether this can become a lifelong practice for an ex-smoker. The jury's out on how long our Chinese electronic gizmos will last. Ever fumbled a cigarette? What happens when my e-Pipe drops to a tile floor? Pile on legal questions sure to arise and you see that we're in uncharted waters.

One blog poster was irate, asking if anyone could imagine an e-smoker walking the corridors of a school with the e-ciggie in his/her hand. I do understand the concern. Frankly, I don't think this is THE answer to any question being asked. E-smoking certainly will not replace cigarettes, cigars or pipes. All are superior to this.

And if it becomes known as p-smoking, then I know I'll puff my vapors in private.

 

[Oliver]

Hey TropicalBob,

interesting post, but I'm not sure I 100% agree with everything you say.

First up is the public perception issue - Sure, some might think it looks a bit silly, but IMO a large and increasing proportion of the public also sees smoking as looking, well if not silly then damned unattractive. My experience so far has had people intrigued and most smokers seem pretty happy/excited about it - since on the surface it appears the perfect way to continue the habit and not suffer the ill-effects.

I can honestly say that no-one has yet said it looks silly, or even that it is "pretend - smoking", most are pretty sophisticated in their understanding of the nature of nicotine addiction.

You are absolutely right that pipes and cigarettes are superior. But that is at the moment. You know how quickly technology develops, and pretty soon they will get it pretty much identical in sensation. In China, a huge number of people have adopted the e-cigarette, so consumer demand will drive forward changes in the technology.

The actual e-cigs will get smaller and lighter and hopefully take on their own identity, not trying to replicate a cigarette (the LED has to go!).

I don't know how long you've been e-smoking, but most long-term e-smokers seem to have had at least one e-cig give up on them. The suppliers are by and large more than happy to replace them at no-charge, knowing full well that the internet is a pretty good place to have your reputation destroyed. Although I do agree that being without your nicotine fix will send you back to the ciggies quicker than anything.

Still, it is all about individual taste!

 

[woody]

Real pipes and cigs may be superior but having recently spent a miserable year as an ex smoker I have found that the e-cig has filled the void. I am a nicotine addict and I loved smoking. I was a non smoker only because of public pressure and health worries. The e cigarette has definitely lifted my spirits but I no longer cough or smell terrible or have to stand in the street like an outcast to enjoy nicotine.
Having said all this I would feel more comfortable using a properly regulated product designed for people who do not wish to give up nicotine withoiut being social outcasts. As the saying goes "once a smoker, always a smoker". The e cigarette probably still has some health issues but perhaps when compared with alcohol abuse and obesity it is preferable. Have you ever met a morbidly obese smoker? When I quit smoking it was a huge struggle to avoid weight gain. This problem has now been solved for me.
The real problem in future is the chance that governments will ban e-cigs before they really develop into quality products.
As for walking through a school with one - well! would you walk through a school with a glass of wine or a pint in your hand?
We don't want a "fake" cigarette. We want a nicotine delivery system that ia pleasant to use. I know people who have been chewing nicotine gum for more than 10 years. If they must have nicotine it may as well be in an enjoyable form.
Maybe we should design a really slick designer e cig and set a new fashion :roll:

 

[TropicalBob]

Excellent replies, both of you. I agree with much of what you say. I, too, hope e-smoking is accepted by both smokers and governments. I'm not sure where to place my bets on either, however. I'm more fearful that governments will snuff this out as a delivery system for an addictive substance than I am that smokers wanting off their unhealthy habit/addiction will reject it. I know I need all the help I can get to stay off cigarettes.

So as I puff my e-pipe on a rainy afternoon, I wonder:

1. Would James Bond pull out an e-ciggie while lying in bed with ..... Galore? Would he offer her a vape?
2. Would Winston Churchill say, "Damn the torpedoes, I need a good e-cigar?"
3. Would Albert Einstein switch to an e-pipe on the chance that he might live long enough to develop a Theory of Irrelativity?

I hear you. We live in a different time. What once was glamorous is now disgusting. The pastime of nobility has degenerated to the point where the highest percentage of smokers is in the lowest income and educated groups. Smokers are the new pond scum. We who became addicted decades ago are confronted publicly by hand-waving fanatics convinced smokers kill babies. It's nasty out there in the real, cold world for the addicted smoker.

Sad. Will the last smoker please blow out the match?

Gotta check the mailbox now to see if my new e-cigar arrived.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

interesting how history sometimes repeats itself... though we have a lot of clueless coming from the public interwebs the deserving will still be around and their view will always be heard... the rest are just 1's and 0's

 

[blackbug]

I can honestly say that no-one has yet said it looks silly, or even that it is "pretend - smoking", most are pretty sophisticated in their understanding of the nature of nicotine addiction.

I have had that at work on cigarette, sorry e-smoking, breaks. People saying it looks rediculous or a bit girlie. I usually reply that I've never cared what other people are thinking.

 

[cliff5550]

I really don't understand the problem with people thinking or calling my M104 a "fake cigarette". Big deal. They can call it whatever they like. I know I am healthier and richer because I vape, rather than smoke.
In regard to comments by analog smokers, I know I am more intelligent in handling my nicotine addiction than they because I no longer derive pleasure from sucking burning paper, tobacco leaves, and hundreds of toxic chemicals into my lungs. I will have the last laugh. So let them.
And I really, really don't agree that "E-smoking certainly will not replace cigarettes, cigars or pipes. All are superior to this." My M104 is far and away superior to a common cigarette, cigar or pipe. I smoked for more than 40 years and was at two packs a day when I found e-cigs. In 40 years I smoked cigarettes, cigars and pipes. They literally suck and fall far behind what I have today.
I have a new wallpaper from a TrueSmoker post which shows Thomas Jefferson vaping a Dragon M401. The man was an inventor, among his other traits, and I have no doubt he would be a vaper today.

 

[geeker]

"E-smoking" is a bit of a handful, "Misting" sounds far too fey, "Vaporizing" or "Vaping" has drug connotations.

There must be a better word for my new hobby! Suggestions?

How about "fogging"?
Maybe this word has negative connotations of which I am unaware, but I sort of like it.
Foggers fogging.

 

[martha1014]

I also rarely vape in public especially since I got a Little Chuck. Even my husband laughs at it. I feel they would think I am smoking dope. The 510 resembled a cigarette but does not work as good.

Eventually I feel the public will accept ecigs when they realize the smoke is better for the smoker and there is no second hand smoke.

My grandchildren are amazed that it has a light at the end which won't burn them. They love me to chase them with the light acting like I am going to burn them. I never smoked even in my own home around my family.

 

[Lightgeoduck]

Sorry to be rude... but most of the recent postsare FUNNY.... I brought this out of the archives to show how it was THEN, AT THAT time ecigs was JUST becoming popular...I guess History does repeat itself just in a awkward way hehe

Quoting the OP ,who by the way is SJ at his newest, is too funny especially since the post date is soooo old hehe

 

[breakfastchef]

I have a problem with calling the new battery pack devices as 'mods' and SJ has to complicate life with his posting of the question about how to best label out new habit. As much as I prefer to refer to vaping as a nicotine replacement therapy, I realize that such a statment immediately puts vaping into the awful realm of medical device. How tragic can this be to adopt a potentially live-saving new habit, yet be faced with so much pushback from our governments and populace when many of us are significantly reducing the harm we have been inflicting on ourselves for so many years.

I would agree with Tropical Bob that I keep my vaping under the radar at all times. I made a personal choice to change my life. The science does not exist yet that supports my notion that vaping is truly a safer way to harm reduction, but, what studies do exist, lead me to be fairly confident that vaping is safer than smoking incinerated tobacco.

If you are looking for a new fangled buzz word for vaping, you will not find it coming from my lips. It is what it is and many have successfully quit smoking analogs as a result. I prefer we find a better term for mods than worry about whther vaping is the best term for usding a PV.

 

[olderthandirt]

...If you are looking for a new fangled buzz word for vaping, you will not find it coming from my lips. It is what it is and many have successfully quit smoking analogs as a result. I prefer we find a better term for mods than worry about whther vaping is the best term for usding a PV.

Hey geo, pulling older threads like this one back into the light of day is a good idea!

What do we call what we're doing? I'm with vaping, it's as good as any.

As for mods, how do feel about "After Market PV" chef?

a thought...

 

[Brewster 59]

Hey TropicalBob,


You are absolutely right that pipes and cigarettes are superior. But that is at the moment. You know how quickly technology develops, and pretty soon they will get it pretty much identical in sensation. In China, a huge number of people have adopted the e-cigarette, so consumer demand will drive forward changes in the technology.

The actual e-cigs will get smaller and lighter and hopefully take on their own identity, not trying to replicate a cigarette (the LED has to go!).

I don't know how long you've been e-smoking, but most long-term e-smokers seem to have had at least one e-cig give up on them. The suppliers are by and large more than happy to replace them at no-charge, knowing full well that the internet is a pretty good place to have your reputation destroyed. Although I do agree that being without your nicotine fix will send you back to the ciggies quicker than anything.

Still, it is all about individual taste!

IMO the eni is very good especially for the length of time it has been on the market. The biggest thing I miss is the feel of real smoke. Vapor is not near as thick as smoke and there are times when I so want an analog.

 

[Zofryer]

What is in a name? You can attach any name to any other thing. I've seen it. Years ago I used to work closely with the marketing folks at a large telecom, and watched them perform an exercise where they came up with the most psychologically pleasing words imaginable, and start using them to describe the product. The idea being to attach a positive emotional response to the use of the product. You start listing combinations or words or phrases that would or do make you smile or feel good. Anything. The words don't have to do with the actual product. That's how you get outside the box. Once you have a list, you crawl over it and attempt to identify naming opportunities by drawing lines between concepts and aspects of the product.

Example List:

winning the lottery
classic car
new shoes
football is on
glenn beck died
it's not a bill
smiled at me
breaking ice on mudpuddles
tax free shopping
lets do shots
my friend is single
it's on me
case dismissed
recess
summer break
vacation
barrel roll
great pizza

and so on. Once you have a few hundred items to work with, five or six people go through the list on their own first doing their own "these are good" and "these are impossible". You put serious thought into each yay or nay. The four or five times I witnessed this ritual, someone would come up with an idea that wasn't on the board at all. But they'd get the idea from something posted there.

Hope This Helps

 

[cassavetes]

My 8 year old niece refers to my PV as a "robo smoker". Not sure that'd ever catch on with anyone over the age of 10.

 

[littlewing58]

I sure can't think of anything easier or catchier to call it, however I do agree with smokey joe, it does seem to have the essence of drug use all of it..Vaping that is. I am not the shy vaper, vapor, vaporee, ??? I have been whipping this thing out every where I go...I love it so much... I find myself doing it unconciously and there I am in the front door of Walmart and my own mother who works as door greeter says, "Your not going to do that in here, that's embarrassing". Of course, it was in my hand like a permanent ink pen to make notes with. I was no-sooner back by the changing room and was vaping away. I've never had anyone in there see it or catch me. I love to do it and never say a word at parties and such, just to see how long it will take to get the bravest of souls to ask, and I get a great positive response from everyone, especially X-smokers. They truely seem to identify the most. Like they are thinking ..."where was this thing when I was suffering to quit before my 3 heart attack?" I have the big fear I will "Have" to go back to analogs, God Forbid! I hate them. I don't ever want one. I smell everyone else's smoke and I think no way will I ever do that again. This is the best...it's better than a cigarette and I smoked 35 years. One thing I was thinking the other day...What about INSURANCE ...is this smoking or not? If I get health insurance what will I be classified.???

 

[cliff5550]

Nothing wrong in pulling out an old thread. Especially if it makes you think and is still topical. I always enjoy tossing in a comment and reading others' comments.