What does "punching" a cartomizer mean?

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  1. bruzab

    bruzab Full Member

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    So I got some 510 XXL BOGE Cartomizers in the mail at long last..

    These things kinda deceived me. I popped it open and its a wee cotton-looking tube on the inside with a black hook in it.

    Directions said to just put e-liquid straight on to it. I loaded up my syringe with my favorite "Dragon's Fire" e-lquid and filled her up til she was saturated.

    Let it sit for about 3-4 minutes and then put it on my EGO-T battery.

    Pressed the button. Very little smoke. Gross carbon burn-off taste. So I started reading around on the forums and it seems like people do something called 'punching'.

    Now these BOGE cartomizers haven't groped my lady nor have they insulted my grandma so I'm not gonna ball up my fist and punch the li'l guys ;).. so the only thing I can guess is that it means to actually punch a hole in one.

    Can someone give me some guidance?
     
  2. Neofolis

    Neofolis Full Member Verified Member

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    Punching is putting holes or slots in the side of the carto, so it can be fed juice from a carto tank. They can be purchased pre-punched, but most people either by a carto punch or similar to punch their carto or use something like a dremmel to cut slots into the side.
     
  3. bacc.vap

    bacc.vap Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Yes, it means to punch a hole, or more than one, in the steel body of the carto when using them in a tank. The juice can then flow into the carto from the tank.
     
  4. NancyR

    NancyR Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    as far as your lack of vapor (not smoke) what ohm carto did you get, and what was the pg/vg ratio of the juice? and have you been drinking enough water as that will also effect your vape
     
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    MoonLit_Water We All Shine On Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    After filling which it sounds like You did correctly, You may want to wait a little longer just to let it all soak in a little better
     
  7. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    Punching only if you have a carto tank:
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    The first fill of a carto is VERY important- has to be fully saturated from top to bottom. The Boge XXL holds 1.4 ml liquid. 20 drops= approx 1 ml juice so at least 27 drops must go in.

     
  8. bruzab

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    And why did this site automatically glom on to my real name? I'd really prefer to be known as my online alias... /sigh.


    Thanks for all the help, guys! I really appreciate it! This community is fantastic.
     
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    tnt56 Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Whenever I fill a new carto I always use the thermometer shake method or the "tarin spin" (not sure of spelling). The thermometer shake is like shaking an old thermometer before you use it. Great workout for your arms, if you fill enough of em. And when done right a carto does give a wonderfull vape. IMHO.
     
  14. randomname79

    randomname79 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    was going to say the exact same thing, got some dual coil 1.6ohm mega cartomizers for my ego t and i hated them. i have to use around 2.2 to 2.4 on it for it to taste decent to me.
     
  15. Tmax

    Tmax Moved On Verified Member

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    Zac Hi

    I posted a reply earlier to another thread:


    Here are a couple of vids from PBusardo

    This first one he explains some of the pitfalls with cartos and tanks - fast forward past the hole punching stuff - but look at the second half.
    A PBusardo Review & Tutorial - QT-1 (not really a) carto punch and Working with carto tanks - YouTube

    This next one is a review of a couple of new locking ring type tanks - that stop the tanks slipping up, and the AGR with a top fill - both tanks inexpensive.
    A PBusardo Review - The UDCT & AGR Locking Carto Tanks And PIPE CONTEST WINNER - YouTube

    I got both these tanks and with the advise from the first vid I'm having LESS trouble with my cartos.

    Hope this helps
     
  16. Vapoor eyes er

    Vapoor eyes er ECF Guru ECF Veteran

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    Congrats and well done. I don't but some also use the syringe fill:

     
  17. Archmachine

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    a drimmel works like magic!
     
  18. DWontheGO

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    Can you tell me a little more about what you experienced between ohm's? I went straight to lower ohm's thinking, more heat, more hit, more more more..... As I get a little more educated, I'm wondering about that decision. What exactly did you "hate" about lower ohm's and did they really effect flavor????? and dual coil vs single coil....

    As I vape more and get further from the real cigs (analogs), FLAVOR IS SO IMPORTANT!!

    I'm using ego900 battery, V3 w/1.8ohm coil, VVV Premium 3ml tank w/Boge 510 carto (self-punched), Ego Tank System w/ dual coil carto (I think Smoketech) 1.5ohm and Ego Mega Dual Coil Carto....I think that's it, trying to find my way-trying Everything!:oops:

    Thanks-deb
     
  19. Baditude

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    I'll give you my experience, your results may vary, however, as with most things in vaping everyone has their own preferences.

    I found dual coil cartomizers to often give a burnt taste or flavor. I theorize that regardless of how well you pre-fill a cartomizer in a cartotank, the act of vaping pulls the juice from the upper portions of the filler down to the lower part where the heating coil is generally located. Once you have been vaping a couple of minutes, if you look at the filler in the top of the cartomizer, it will look dry like you hadn't even filled it - this is normal and is the way a carto works. There is still liquid in the lower part of the carto.

    In a dual coil cart, the second heating coil will be located in the middle portion of the cartomizer. It's very possible that after some time vaping, that upper coil may not have much e-liquid around it and cause the filler to burn. Once filler is burnt, you'll never get that taste out of it and you can consider it trashed.

    I've made a cutaway diagram of a cartomizer to demonstrate this flow of liquid in a cartomizer below (click the image to enlarge it):

    Cartomizer Anatomy.jpg

    Since I've switched to single coil cartomizers I've not had any burnt taste in my cartotanks.
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    Some vapors prefer a warmer vape, some prefer a cooler vape. I happen to prefer a cooler vape with plenty of flavor. Too warm of a vape can cause some flavors to become burnt tasting, muted, or non-existant. Using the proper ohm cartomizer can help you find your "sweet spot" by changing the voltage or wattage you use with each flavor of e-liquid.

    For instance, I use a 2.5 - 3.0 ohm single coil cartomizer in my cartotanks. This gives me the full range of voltage to use from 3.4 to 5.0 volts. For fruit flavors I like a voltage around 3.5 volts. For my coffee flavors I like 4.4 volts. For cinnamon I like 4.8 volts.

    Guide to Safe Vaping - E-Cigarette Safety | Ecig Advanced Community Blog
     
  20. randomname79

    randomname79 Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Exactly what batitude said lol. I will add that the heat and harshness made it so I couldn't even inhale them. I smoked super super light analogs though. I couldn't smoke regular strength analogs either. Even with the carto's full to the point of leakage I couldnt stand them. Being new at first I thought it was the ego batt as I got everything together but when i put one of my 808 cartomizers on it after I picked up an adapter the ego's were a pure joy. I just picked up my shiny new vamo and some vivi nova's today so we'll see how that goes.
     
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