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DPLongo22

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YEP! Ratty is better than sticky. Mine is fine. Even my very small nick in the finish does not bother me. If you get bored with the color then wrap it. For the ladies!

At least where buttons are concerned...

I don't mind nicks either. I like my mods "used". My BB's have little scratches all over the place. They're "mine", and I like 'em.

Xvo is already taking some lumps. Not too much though - they're pretty tough little suckers.

I'll skip the pink wrap, but thanks. ;):rolleyes:
 

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Someone on the FC thread seems to think this clone is by SXK. I'm doubtful as both 3f and FC generally tell you if its made by SXK. Can any of you see that video well enough to see if there are tcr curves for other wire types...I want to say SXK uses a scale from 1 to 100.

IF this is the SXK chip, I'm getting one. I've been wanting to try out that chip. I didn't want another clone VF, Zero, VS or their mod that looks like a brass Hana skinny. But, if its in this Xvostick, well, I may have to cave.

Thank you for the thread link, Roxy. I was a bit lost with all the acronymicals! :D Speaking of, what is the SXK chip? And what is "tcr curves"?


HUGE congrats, dru!!! I loved all of your comparison pics and am truly happy for you (other than the button rattle)! And seems you did pretty well on the taxes, too.

I would let Mini know about the button being loose. I wonder if that was their answer to the sticky ones... Hmmmm.

Hopefully it will not bother you much. I've got one device that rattles its fire button and adjustment buttons, but it's an inexpen$ive Chinese mod. I suppose we tend to think that the more dollars spent, the less rattle we should have, eh?



YEP! Ratty is better than sticky. Mine is fine. Even my very small nick in the finish does not bother me. If you get bored with the color then wrap it. For the ladies!

Thanks, SB. I'm a lady, but I highly doubt I'd go with that pink!
 

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The following is not directed at anyone specifically. PLEASE :)

IMHO, it might be helpful to mention that my hope for those that wish to purchase the "clone" from 3F is that you like it so much that you decide to purchase the authentic. This actually occurred with my test with the Squape clones which were all junk but showed me the potential of the authentic and I currently own two authentics. For myself, I ordered the 3F clone but consider it a "test" which should cost me about $5.25 given their return policy. So for me it's risk reward and a nice present to a friend who loves to tinker and take things apart IF it works 6 months from delivery.

Which of course really means "realistic expectations" from a "clone" and your propensity to tinker or just return it or throw it away. This is a first run clone so it might be very good or it might be junk. I have no clue BUT my expectations are it's about a 50/50 bet! Yes, I still use my very old KFL clone today which led me to purchase the authentics as my budget permitted.

Happy trails and good luck to all

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I took mine out for a nigth on the town..just to introduce it to my way off live :w00t:
It held up like a champ...

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I am very satisfied so far after one night, it really is a beauty and very compact...it's ideal for these kind of activities :toast:
 

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@Katdarling , SXK is a manufacturer of mostly clones. Most "Infinite" branded clones were made by SXK. They are known for good machining and their tc chip.

Their chip allows for refinement for different wire types. Most mods have tcr for just ni200 or ni200 and titanium. With SXK's chip you can use their scale to dial up or down a bit to further refine your vape. For example, if titanium is recommended at 68 on their scale, you may find using, say, 66, 67, 69 or 70 works a little better for you. And having that fine tuning can help not only for further refinement, but also allow you to use tc for SS, gold or silver wire. Some feel its the best tc chip. I haven't used it myself yet so I really don't know if it is or not.
 

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@Katdarling , SXK is a manufacturer of mostly clones. Most "Infinite" branded clones were made by SXK. They are known for good machining and their tc chip.

Their chip allows for refinement for different wire types. Most mods have tcr for just ni200 or ni200 and titanium. With SXK's chip you can use their scale to dial up or down a bit to further refine your vape. For example, if titanium is recommended at 68 on their scale, you may find using, say, 66, 67, 69 or 70 works a little better for you. And having that fine tuning can help not only for further refinement, but also allow you to use tc for SS, gold or silver wire. Some feel its the best tc chip. I haven't used it myself yet so I really don't know if it is or not.

Thank you, roxy of noodle, but I know have 4.5 vape years experience that I've just tossed down the drain. Believe it or not, I have no clue as to what you're saying.

"tcr"...... temperature controlled resistance/reachability/recreation?

"scale to dial up or down" = change the desired temperature?

Using tc with "SS, gold or silver wire"?

I'm lost and shall remain a kontented blister packin' tootle puffin' mamma. I (AGAIN) wonder if I'm alone. :(
 

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Thank you, roxy of noodle, but I know have 4.5 vape years experience that I've just tossed down the drain. Believe it or not, I have no clue as to what you're saying.

"tcr"...... temperature controlled resistance/reachability/recreation?

"scale to dial up or down" = change the desired temperature?

Using tc with "SS, gold or silver wire"?

I'm lost and shall remain a kontented blister packin' tootle puffin' mamma. I (AGAIN) wonder if I'm alone. :(

I'm not sure how well I understand it (yet) either.

Tcr stands for temperature coefficient of resistance (I think).

I may be talking out of my .... here, but as a mathematician, this is what I think is happening:

Kanthal, nickel, titanium, etc, react differently when heated. Temperature control (really, limiting, not control) doesn't work for kanthal because its resistance is very stable when heated. A 1.8 ohm coil stays 1.8 ohm while we vape. However, nickel and other wires will have their resistance go up when they're heated. So a 0.2 ohm nickel coil might go to 0.5 ohm then 0.7 ohm, etc as a person vapes. These tc mods sense that and prevent it from happening by locking in the cold resistance and reducing the power to keep your vape at the same temperature. Otherwise using anything but kanthal would result in significant heating with each puff. Likewise, since kanthal stays at the same resistance, temperature control doesn't work with it (yet).

Different wire types have different resistances per foot, and react differently when heated. The chip is programmed to account for that. SXK used a scale of 1 to 100 and the user can select whatever number works best with the type of wire s/he is using. And the user can further refine from there.

Is it complicated? Ha ha, I think so and I'm a geek, lol! As a geek, do I want to play with it? Of course. Will I like it? I don't know. I might throw it in front of a combine harvesting corn. And go buy a blister pack :)

Hopefully I have the gist of things and actually put up a reasonable post :confused: If I'm a ding dong someone will hopefully correct me :)
 

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Welp, sign me up for the combine harvesting corn. Or grapes. Then we'd at least have some wine over which we could discuss this in geeky detail. :confused:

Sorry, but I must Shark Tank "OUT" on this one. If I can't even begin to understand it (or WANT to), I'm guessing it's not for me.

I'm luckily (intentionally, determinedly) happy with my vapes. Any more introduction to the dark side will make my head spin. I have enuf with vape to keep my gear organized, cleaned, dressed, filled, charged, and dust free. OMG, I'm now tired thinking about it.

To all who CAN and WILL do this, I tip my cap to you....... BIG TIME.

Roxy, to you tho...... I do appreciate the time that you took to explain this to me (us). It's simply beyond where I need or want to go with my vape.
 

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Well I better dive into that stuff, I am thinking off one last mod to complete my collection: the Dicodes dani extreem v2+, as I also want a small tube device for when I am on my bike (main transportation for us Dutch people ;))...which allows you to set the TCR to anything you like so you can use any wire type.....(bit like the DNA200 but without the computer/graphs thingee)...so I better learn all about this TCR and stuff....
Aah well seems do-able...this vaping stuff keeps on giving :p
 

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We don't grow a lot of grapes here. Corn, soybeans and wheat are the primary crops. They've pretty much finished bringing in the beans and its corn time.

I just know everyone wanted to know that ;)

I've been meaning to ask you about that..
 

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I have the zero clone (fastech; I don't think they sell them anymore) with the SXK chip. It's a really good chip and the TC works perfectly. However, I don't use TC much. Its a "cool" feature and fun to mess with, but it doesn't change the vape at all. Unless you have a problem with burnt hits, it seems hardly worth the trouble.

In the 3F unboxing video for the xvostick, the chip did not have celcius. As a result, I think it has a different chip in it than the one in my zero. Could still be an SXK chip as they change them all the time, but makes me wonder. Should be a good knock around mod in any case.
 

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Question for Roxy.

You had a a Zero clone that had.... "issues". Do you know what chip that was? And were your issues related to the chip? I've never owned a clone so I'm trying to keep up with all the unfamiliar acronyms.

And in all fairness, I only ordered these out of frustration. Whether or not they remain (after comparison) is still in question. One step at a time...
 
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