I got my first set up 1 week ago and I am wanting to learn some things about vaping. What does the nic level mean (.6/1.2/1.8/2.4) is it percent? Miligrams? I have also heard people say 6/12/18/24. I am currently using an Ego T upgrade and I want a new mod. Would you recommend Innotek or Tesla? what is the best way to get the most flavor out of your juice?
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Bujo, the .6, 1.2, etc is the milligram per ml of your juice. It's also expressed as in .6 would be 6 mg nic strength juice 1.2 would be 12 mg and so on. So it's just milligram per ml..
Hope that helped
Hope that helped
Bujo:10909695 said:
Congrats on the 1 week!
The 0.6, 1.2, 1.8, etc is refering to the % of nicotine in the mix, while 6/12/18 is milligrams per milliliter. Its just 2 different ways of saying the same thing.
I can't comment from personal experience on innokin products or the tesla but both are well liked by those who use them. From what I've seen, I'd look at the innokin Mvp2.
The best flavor will come from direct dripping, either on a regular dripping atomizer or RDA (rebuildable dripping atomizer).
For a beginner I definitely recommend a regular 510 dripping atomizer because rebuildables require quite a bit more knowledge to use safely.
Hope this helps, let us know if you need more help/advice.
I understand how RDAs work with 3 posts and such. There is a shop in town that will rebuild free of charge and even teach you. I have a mini Davide tank which seems to be a replica of the Kanger Pro (or something) tank.
I am trying to kick tobacco all together and I want the big clouds I got from hookah and I have heard about running sub ohm will do that and the guy that runs one of the local shops is doing .3Ω and I am wondering what the best setup for that would be. RDA or Genesis.
I am trying to kick tobacco all together and I want the big clouds I got from hookah and I have heard about running sub ohm will do that and the guy that runs one of the local shops is doing .3Ω and I am wondering what the best setup for that would be. RDA or Genesis.
My recommendations:
1. Search the ECF forums for user reviews of the mods you're considering. Some mods even have dedicated subforums.
2. Search YouTube for video reviews of the mods you're considering. GrimmGreen, PBusardo, and others have reviewed Innokin, Tesla, and many other mods.
3. Search for reviews on other websites that review multiple mod brands.
Bujo:10909836 said:
Well, if that's the route you plan to go I strongly suggest you educate yourself on battery safety.
I'd be wary of taking the advice of one or two guys at the b&m, who's to say how knowledgeable they really are? There's tons of knowledgeable people here on ECF who will help you out, just ask, and prepare to read/learn a bit.
I'd recommend getting an APV with a ohm meter and redundant safety measures as opposed to a mechanical since you're still new.
Sub-ohm vaping is not "necessary" for big clouds and it can be dangerous if done incorrectly.
I get HUGE clouds with a 1.5 - 1.0 ohm build on my RDA, its all about learning how to set it up properly, airflow, and the amount of Vg in your juice.
With all that said, if you're trying to kick tobacco why not keep it simple at first? The Davide seems like a decent tank, and when paired that with a good APV it should perform quite well.
I agree search around, do the research and make a knowledgeable decision based on facts, not anyone who says "well I use"...
It is also a matter of budget also, while you may find a Provari is the best of the VV mods, and you want to save for one, fact is it may not realistic RIGHT NOW, and you want to vape!
Always consider this when it's your hard earned money:
Does it do what YOU want it to do?
What is it's track record, longevity, durability, etc.
Is it in my budget?
Personally I use a Provari because I have had only mech. before (Mechanical Mods) and I did my research, and did my research, and decided that when I would go VV it was going to be a Provari or nothing, but I had something that was already doing what I wanted it to do...get my point..I still use my mechs.
I am a professional and I make good money, but it was still a bullet to bite purchasing a Provari, no question about it, but I wanted what I wanted based on research, more research, user feedback, and lastly what I could budget for...
We are here to help, answer questions and see you succeed in your vaping journey!
Kinda like the Matrix, choose wisely, so you aren't like myself and a lot of others and have a trophy shelf of e-cig stuff that sucks!
It is also a matter of budget also, while you may find a Provari is the best of the VV mods, and you want to save for one, fact is it may not realistic RIGHT NOW, and you want to vape!
Always consider this when it's your hard earned money:
Does it do what YOU want it to do?
What is it's track record, longevity, durability, etc.
Is it in my budget?
Personally I use a Provari because I have had only mech. before (Mechanical Mods) and I did my research, and did my research, and decided that when I would go VV it was going to be a Provari or nothing, but I had something that was already doing what I wanted it to do...get my point..I still use my mechs.
I am a professional and I make good money, but it was still a bullet to bite purchasing a Provari, no question about it, but I wanted what I wanted based on research, more research, user feedback, and lastly what I could budget for...
We are here to help, answer questions and see you succeed in your vaping journey!
Kinda like the Matrix, choose wisely, so you aren't like myself and a lot of others and have a trophy shelf of e-cig stuff that sucks!
This is excellent advice!
Really you need to follow the KISS method:
Keep it Simple Stupid!
(just an expression..)
Seeing as you are new, you need simple, but effective!
When you first started driving did you have a Ferrari?
When I started we only had cigalikes and mechs, after wasting a ton (hundreds) on cigalikes, I broke down and bought a high quality mech. and let me tell you it was hard to part with Ben Franklin for a mod 4 years ago! But that's all we had, we did not have VV, APV' !
Really you need to follow the KISS method:
Keep it Simple Stupid!
(just an expression..)
Seeing as you are new, you need simple, but effective!
When you first started driving did you have a Ferrari?
When I started we only had cigalikes and mechs, after wasting a ton (hundreds) on cigalikes, I broke down and bought a high quality mech. and let me tell you it was hard to part with Ben Franklin for a mod 4 years ago! But that's all we had, we did not have VV, APV' !
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Agree with Tony. You don't need subOhms to generate plenty of vapor, particularly if you want tasty vapor. I also like the 1.0 - 1.4 Ohm coils and that is my sweet spot. Vapor is only one element of vaping. Since I started vaping to quit smoking, I found I actually liked the taste of vaping good ejuice, and subohms with high VG (clouds) actually has very little and muted flavor and throat hit that actually hurts. Vaping is not a competition for me, and I actually require it to taste good and be enjoyable, as well. Cloud chasing is something else entirely. Generally, flavor is provided by the higher PG content, vapor by the higher VG content, together with several other variables. The problem is that sumOhms can turn your PV into a pipe bomb, no joke, and a thorough understanding of Ohm's Law and Battery safety is required before you go there.
As an aside, I have a non-vaping friend, formerly in special forces, who showed me what his team used to do to turn a lithium battery into an IED, and it wasn't that far from sub-ohming, so be very careful. Enjoy. Low ohms provides a better vape than subOhm's, imho, and it's far less dangerous. YMMV. My two cents.
As an aside, I have a non-vaping friend, formerly in special forces, who showed me what his team used to do to turn a lithium battery into an IED, and it wasn't that far from sub-ohming, so be very careful. Enjoy. Low ohms provides a better vape than subOhm's, imho, and it's far less dangerous. YMMV. My two cents.
Bill,
GREAT POINT!
I too used to do this <g> learned it in the military but It has been so long since I have even heard of anyone wanting to run sub-ohm..
He's right, this is VERY dangerous!
You can turn a AW 18650 IMR into an 18650 IED pretty easy running sub-ohm, no joke!
(Improvised Explosive Device).
GREAT POINT!
I too used to do this <g> learned it in the military but It has been so long since I have even heard of anyone wanting to run sub-ohm..
He's right, this is VERY dangerous!
You can turn a AW 18650 IMR into an 18650 IED pretty easy running sub-ohm, no joke!
(Improvised Explosive Device).
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Ω's law calcuator
ok
First things first, lets base things on facts
If someone is using lets just say AW IMR 18650 3.7v battery which at full charge with zero load reads 4.2 on its best day but on load reads 4v with a full charge on a .5Ω yes subΩ coil your discharge rate is 8 amps with standard 18650's (so long as the person in question is using a proper quality battery) being rated at a 10amp discharge rate. This is considered within the specifications of the batteries discharge capability. The average person takes a drag from between 5-20 seconds. Even chain vaping here's what happens....80+% of the batteries voltage rate will be discharged at an average rate of 3.6-3.7v putting your discharge rate down to 7-7.4 amps.
I run 30amp rated sony 18650's.
I run a 10amp fuse in case of hard shorts which has been tested though intentional hard shorts and pop's instantly....(BTW HARD SHORTS UNFUSED/UNPROTECTED ARE THE #1 CAUSE OF CONCERN OVER A BATTERY BLOWING UP, NOT VAPING)
so......moving on:
Can you blow up a battery if you sub Ω vape yes
Can you minimize the risk through knowledge and understanding of what your doing, much like anything in life? Yes
Can a lithium ion battery blow up randomly for no apparent reason? Yes
Can you get injured from things or get in an accident that would kill you 100 other ways each day you live? Yes
Like anything there are % based chances of crap going wrong. Every day any of us lives we have odds of dying but most don't focus or obsess over it simply because well......it makes no sense. Focus on the things you can control such as fact based research.
Mis-Information is worse than no information.
ok
First things first, lets base things on facts
If someone is using lets just say AW IMR 18650 3.7v battery which at full charge with zero load reads 4.2 on its best day but on load reads 4v with a full charge on a .5Ω yes subΩ coil your discharge rate is 8 amps with standard 18650's (so long as the person in question is using a proper quality battery) being rated at a 10amp discharge rate. This is considered within the specifications of the batteries discharge capability. The average person takes a drag from between 5-20 seconds. Even chain vaping here's what happens....80+% of the batteries voltage rate will be discharged at an average rate of 3.6-3.7v putting your discharge rate down to 7-7.4 amps.
I run 30amp rated sony 18650's.
I run a 10amp fuse in case of hard shorts which has been tested though intentional hard shorts and pop's instantly....(BTW HARD SHORTS UNFUSED/UNPROTECTED ARE THE #1 CAUSE OF CONCERN OVER A BATTERY BLOWING UP, NOT VAPING)
so......moving on:
Can you blow up a battery if you sub Ω vape yes
Can you minimize the risk through knowledge and understanding of what your doing, much like anything in life? Yes
Can a lithium ion battery blow up randomly for no apparent reason? Yes
Can you get injured from things or get in an accident that would kill you 100 other ways each day you live? Yes
Like anything there are % based chances of crap going wrong. Every day any of us lives we have odds of dying but most don't focus or obsess over it simply because well......it makes no sense. Focus on the things you can control such as fact based research.
Mis-Information is worse than no information.
]Hello there.. I just ordered a kanger protank 2..and a knger e-vod so I will see how that goes..stick with it! Anna
VAPE,
Unless he is an electronics major this may only confuse him!
I know you mean well, but he clearly stated he has only been at this 1 week!
Let the lad do some research!
I get your point I have been at this over 5 years and I know you have been vaping a long time too!...sheesh
Just my
worth, let him breathe....
(Still firends)
Unless he is an electronics major this may only confuse him!
I know you mean well, but he clearly stated he has only been at this 1 week!
Let the lad do some research!
I get your point I have been at this over 5 years and I know you have been vaping a long time too!...sheesh
Just my
worth, let him breathe....(Still firends)
Vapeaddikt, you're talking way over most New Member Forum participant's head. Remember, the OP said they've been vaping only one week. So, Thank you for the lesson, but the OP has been vaping for only one week, and wants to jump into subohms without any of the knowledge that you so generously provided above. I was providing accurate information to the OP, in context, commensurate with the OP's experience and knowledge level. Okey, dokey????
For the noob, I think it prudent to recommend a more middle of the road starting resistance together with a lot of information about rebuilding, battery safety, Ohm's Law, etc., BEFORE going into sub-Ohm's. For the veterans, of course, a different picture entirely. I just don't think it is prudent to recommend subohms to the noob, before they've done their research, imho, because it is potentially dangerous, as you acknowledged, and this is becoming a dangerous trend that is more a vapor production competition, rather than simply enjoying vaping, particularly when used to quit smoking. YMMV, and just my two cents. The more people that get into sub-ohming without any real knowledge or experience, the more accidents we're going to have, all of which is bad for the vaper, and the community. Everyone needs to vape responsibly, and the information that we provide to the new comers needs to reflect this responsibility and awareness. I am not against sub-Ohming, and it has its place, but not generally in the first week of vaping. Those are the facts, as I see them. Best to you.
Congrats on becoming a vaper. It is worth it in the long run. It's difficult in the beginning but find what works for you.
If you hold out till the end of October, Innokin has a new mod that is supposed to come out that is variable voltage and I believe variable wattage. I saw it on a video on youtube from a California Vapor Convention from last month.
If you hold out till the end of October, Innokin has a new mod that is supposed to come out that is variable voltage and I believe variable wattage. I saw it on a video on youtube from a California Vapor Convention from last month.
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