100 mAh = 1 hour vape time?

[Spazmelda]

This has been a fascinating thread. Sometimes I try to imagine explaining how to use an ecig to my mom. She doesn't smoke, but she makes a good analogy for the older technologically challenged person. She's not stupid by any means, technology is just not her thing. I remember one time when my dad went on an extended business trip, and I was her telephone computer assistance person. Every time, my questioning started with, "First, make sure it's plugged in", and about 30% of the time this solved the problem. Lol. The computer stuff just intimidated her so much that it made her panic and abandon logical thought processes.

I've always thought it would be fabulous to work in an ecig brick and mortar, but this makes me see the side that we don't usually see here on ECF. On ECF, people here are already technologically savvy enough and research oriented enough to go online and search for answers to their questions. That immediately selects against a certain subset of potential vapers that are never going to do any research beyond a simple google search or reading an article. There is so much to learn at this point, that a few conversations with a b&m employee in a vape shop, is simply not enough to cover every question or misunderstanding.

If future studies show that vaping is not as effective as we seem to think it is, this is going to be one of the main reasons why, IMO. Anyway, very interesting to think about.

 

[Rocketpunk]

I don't think a new vaper who can't comprehend mAh or wants to know how many ml equals a cigarette would have a good experience vaping at 1.0Ω...

They should definitely be vaping sub-ohm.

Hey! How are you guys making the Ohm symbol?

I want to know! Also, how do you make those little hearts, too, while you're at it?

 

[serenity21899]

Hey! How are you guys making the Ohm symbol?

I want to know! Also, how do you make those little hearts, too, while you're at it?

Alt + 234 for ohm sign

 

[Rocketpunk]

Well, Alt234 brought up another browser window or something. Didn't make the Ohm sign for me. Let's try again... Nope, alt+234 makes me want to exit this page...

 

[Baditude]

Rocket, I believe you have to have a certain type or kind of keyboard to get the ohm character. My keyboard on the computer I'm usually using when on ECF is like 8 years old and it won't make the ohm character either.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Thank you! I feel less stupid now. I think I just got a dose of my own medicine.

 

[Rocketpunk]

I just got this weird visual flash of RP as Julia Child in a really really strange domestic scene... (It makes sense in my head anyway.)

It's a quote from the Bible. As iron sharpens iron, so does one man sharpen the other. It's a metaphor for collective learning and edification.

 

[eHuman]

Unfortunately the 100mAh per hour was coined back when 3.7v 3.2Ω devices were the norm. It is not the gasoline that determine how many miles per gallon you get, it's the car. Consider the basic battery and higher Ω coil as a fuel efficient car, then consider what many devices are currently on the market. They are more like full size SUVs and even formula race cars.

Sound off if you remember when you went from an 3.7v mod with high Ω coil to a 2Ω coil, or especially jumping to an RBA/RDA. Do you remember suddenly going twice, three times as much juice?

Bottom line, current draw from your battery determines how long the battery will last, there is no set standard unless you quantify and remove the variables. Another factor to consider is the same identical set up vaped by a casual puffer vs a chain vaping madman.

A subΩ RBA with drilled out air and wick holes pushing 25 watts can fit the 100mAh per hour with a modest puffer, and a 3.7v 4Ω modest setup in the lips of one who breaths through it non stop with use more...

But you still want to be able to speak wisdom and truth to new customers without requiring them to listen to and understand a thesis? Tell them that with "X" basic set up the battery "can" last xmaH/hour, that both lower resistance attys and more frequent vaping uses up the battery faster. So your 100mA per hour figure really depends on them.

In this way, they are given the facts, can't complain that you told them it would last X hours but didn't, and also have a beginning understanding of the variables associated. If their battery goes prematurely, they won't automatically think they were lied to, they may instead consider their vaping frequency, or that new 1.8Ω carto they are trying as the culprit.

 

[Rocketpunk]

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[gthompson]

mah = Milliamps Hour, and the higher the amps you're drawing the less hours you get. That's why a low ohm coil drains your battery so much faster. You'd have to only be drawing about 1 amp to get 20 hours from a 2000 mah battery.

 

[tanzmitpalmer]

I have officially been vaping a week (yay!), so I can easily fit the role of unknowledgeable n00b and say...

Guesstimations and equivalencies are fine. Experienced vapers, please, don't be afraid to use them! I totally understand that YMMV, but I still wanted to know puffs/packs per pre-filled disposable/carto, puffs per drop, drops per ml, hours per battery, etc etc, because it was the only way I could have any idea of knowing what I could potentially expect. I'm getting a little bit better at understanding some of the more basic aspects just from watching youtube and reading around here, but to start off with there was a MASSIVE language barrier. So putting it in words I can understand, however imperfect, is good. If 100mAh is one hour, that helps me a lot to know, even if it isn't exact. I'm not gonna be butthurt if a 650mAh battery only lasts me 4 hours, because I know it means *I'm* doing something other than what was expected, not the battery itself.

 

[Tache]

42....................

Didn't know you were a fan of "Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy".

 

[mkbilbo]

The reason I ask is because I work at a B&M and people constantly ask me, "How long will this last me?" I tell people looking into 1000 mAh Twists that it will last "a whole day on a full charge", and people looking into 650 mAh Twists, "A half day at full charge". I just don't want to be inaccurate. Everyone vapes differently. Some people take honking huge rips, others little puffs.

Yeah, I'd definitely make clear that's "average vaping". And averages are what they are. In fact, that one isn't well defined from what I've seen. As in, I dunno people have actually done sciency type testing. I only get 6 hours out of a 1000mAh Twist. I do, however, vape fairly heavily and run over 4v a lot.

Myself, I wouldn't put in "day" or "half day". That's a bit vague. Can mean different things to different people. Is that, say, a "work day" of eight hours or from morning to night? Or the around 16 hours a day people are awake (with that average sleeping thing being about 8 hours).

The "100mA is roughly one hour of average vaping" with an emphasis that not everybody is "average" is probably better. My use pattern, I'd probably only get about 4 hours out of a 650.

It's like a cell phone (which also uses lithium ion batteries). I get ages out of a single charge. I don't talk on it much. I don't like phones. Other folks, they need charges and adapters of every possible combination to get through their mornings (like my brother who uses his at work and you can't talk to him five minutes he doesn't get six other calls trying to come through).

But you don't want folks coming back, yelling, "You said all day!" The word "day" being so slippery. You could thinking 8 to 10 hours, they're thinking "sunrise to sunset". Something like that...

 

[mkbilbo]

You mean for the customers? Right?

Hey... Xanax darts!

 

[Ken_A]

Hey! How are you guys making the Ohm symbol?

I want to know! Also, how do you make those little hearts, too, while you're at it?

Well, Alt234 brought up another browser window or something. Didn't make the Ohm sign for me. Let's try again... Nope, alt+234 makes me want to exit this page...

Rocket, I believe you have to have a certain type or kind of keyboard to get the ohm character. My keyboard on the computer I'm usually using when on ECF is like 8 years old and it won't make the ohm character either.

Thank you! I feel less stupid now. I think I just got a dose of my own medicine.

you can get the OHM symbol from adding a symbol in Word, or get it off of the web like Ω from
Ohm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Ω

 

[DavidOck]

Here's a call for at least empirical research on this subject....

How many ml's of juice per 100 mAh? Might that not be a "better" average? I think it might be more meaningful. After all, what IS 1 hour of vaping? How many seconds per draw, how many draws per session... where does that hour even come from?

But if there's a ballpark estimate - and just pulling numbers out of the air, here! - of, say, 100 mAh per 1/4 ml, then a vaper could look at his or her topper, say a 5 ml carto tank, and think "hmmm, I'm going to need 2000 mAh of battery to vape this. Better take two..."

 

[retired1]

**snicker** I can kill 5ml of juice with a single 2000mAh battery and my PuriTanks. I'll have to do a study and see exactly how much juice I can destroy on one battery. I know it's a lot.

 

[Xobeloot]

You could pop a corn.

Ooooh! It's on!


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[DPLongo22]

**snicker** I can kill 5ml of juice with a single 2000mAh battery and my PuriTanks. I'll have to do a study and see exactly how much juice I can destroy on one battery. I know it's a lot.

Exactly. I do 5-6ml with each 2250. Sometimes as few as four hours, others as much as six or seven (depends, obviously).

So, yeah.

 

[Surgical]

mah = Milliamps Hour, and the higher the amps you're drawing the less hours you get. That's why a low ohm coil drains your battery so much faster. You'd have to only be drawing about 1 amp to get 20 hours from a 2000 mah battery.

2000 milliamp hours would be 2 amp hours, which means at 1 amp you would get 2 hours of use. Just remember that you only hold the button for a few seconds, so 2 hours of actual vaping can last you a fairly long time.

Amp.....
hour......
Amount of amps to last 1 hr


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