100 mAh = 1 hour vape time?

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eHuman

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Maybe you are pressing Alt then F2, F3, F4. Alt+F4 will exit screen.

If you press and hold the ALT button, then press the number 2 then 3 then 4, then release the ALT button you will get the Greek Omega symbol Ω. Google "ascii extended character chart" and look at the images to see the codes for all available characters.

Ascii is an old DOS programming tool, but still works in windows.
 

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But you don't want folks coming back, yelling, "You said all day!" The word "day" being so slippery. You could thinking 8 to 10 hours, they're thinking "sunrise to sunset". Something like that...

I had exactly that happen to me. I sold an MVP to a guy who was just killing his Twists. Kept running them at 4.8 v with a 2.0 ohm dual coil carto tank. So I showed him the MVP and explained it's features and it's mAh capacity. So he jumped on that. Dude killed that thing within THREE DAYS. Killed it. Kid you not. Came back in mad because "we sell junk" and "we all lie". Try our best to explain to him the variables, and he literally said, "This is all b.s., I'm just going back to smoking cigarettes" and stormed out. We all had a "a-waa?" moment, then went back to normal operation. Some people just don't want to know, care, understand, or learn...
 

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I had exactly that happen to me. I sold an MVP to a guy who was just killing his Twists. Kept running them at 4.8 v with a 2.0 ohm dual coil carto tank. So I showed him the MVP and explained it's features and it's mAh capacity. So he jumped on that. Dude killed that thing within THREE DAYS. Killed it. Kid you not. Came back in mad because "we sell junk" and "we all lie". Try our best to explain to him the variables, and he literally said, "This is all b.s., I'm just going back to smoking cigarettes" and stormed out. We all had a "a-waa?" moment, then went back to normal operation. Some people just don't want to know, care, understand, or learn...

"...4.8 v with a 2.0 ohm dual coil carto tank..."

Um... duhhahwaaa?

Guess ya coulda suggested maybe jumper cables and a car battery?

See, this is why I should never be allowed to work with the public. I would waved and cheerily said, "Enjoy your cancer!"

(I understand they frown on that sort of commentary to customers)
 

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Dream job, for sure. But the honeymoon phase is over. There have been a very few fleeting moments where I wanted to just throw up my hands and tell a person, "Vaping isn't for everyone."

What usually snaps people back into reality from just being lazy: "Do you own a smartphone? You do! Well, if you could figure out your smartphone, you can use an electronic cigarette."

I encounter a LOT of older folks who act like plugging in a USB cord, swapping wicks, or even pushing a button literally explodes their minds. "What the hell's a USB?" You'd think that's a joke, but it's not. I'm incredibly patient, but I can tell when someone shows up with a dead-set attitude that "I don't get this" and "technology is hard, I'm not a computer person". I give them the same exact schpiel (sp?) I give everyone else, and I always walk them through turning on an eGo battery and filling an iClear 16. Some people froth at the mouth to master these things, the others consider it a burden to figure out how to use these things. If mastering the five-click on-off feature of an eGo battery, and an iClear blows your mind out of the water... maybe... maybe... this isn't for you...

EDIT: Sorry for the rant. I apologize.

I work in a smoke shop where we sell ego kits and juice and stuff and I totally understand everything you deal with. Some people just don't get it. However, we sell the Ego C with the replaceable mini atomizers which make no sense and are too finnicky for new people.

And then these new people start asking me about my ProVari, Vamo, NES mod or RBA system or carto tank and I try to explain it to them and it just blows their minds lol. VV VW, ohms, cartos, attys, they get scared.

Then they taste my Pluid, then I never see them again. Oh well.
 

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I had exactly that happen to me. I sold an MVP to a guy who was just killing his Twists. Kept running them at 4.8 v with a 2.0 ohm dual coil carto tank. So I showed him the MVP and explained it's features and it's mAh capacity. So he jumped on that. Dude killed that thing within THREE DAYS. Killed it. Kid you not. Came back in mad because "we sell junk" and "we all lie". Try our best to explain to him the variables, and he literally said, "This is all b.s., I'm just going back to smoking cigarettes" and stormed out. We all had a "a-waa?" moment, then went back to normal operation. Some people just don't want to know, care, understand, or learn...

Well if he would have stopped crumpling the thing up like a pack of spent cigs and making waste can bball shots with it every time he finished a vape session...

Smoking technology = "match" and "burn something." The ones who can't make the technological jump won't survive long - one way or the other.
 

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Unfortunately the 100mAh per hour was coined back when 3.7v 3.2Ω devices were the norm. It is not the gasoline that determine how many miles per gallon you get, it's the car. Consider the basic battery and higher Ω coil as a fuel efficient car, then consider what many devices are currently on the market. They are more like full size SUVs and even formula race cars.

Sound off if you remember when you went from an 3.7v mod with high Ω coil to a 2Ω coil, or especially jumping to an RBA/RDA. Do you remember suddenly going twice, three times as much juice?

Bottom line, current draw from your battery determines how long the battery will last, there is no set standard unless you quantify and remove the variables. Another factor to consider is the same identical set up vaped by a casual puffer vs a chain vaping madman.

A subΩ RBA with drilled out air and wick holes pushing 25 watts can fit the 100mAh per hour with a modest puffer, and a 3.7v 4Ω modest setup in the lips of one who breaths through it non stop with use more...

But you still want to be able to speak wisdom and truth to new customers without requiring them to listen to and understand a thesis? Tell them that with "X" basic set up the battery "can" last xmaH/hour, that both lower resistance attys and more frequent vaping uses up the battery faster. So your 100mA per hour figure really depends on them.

In this way, they are given the facts, can't complain that you told them it would last X hours but didn't, and also have a beginning understanding of the variables associated. If their battery goes prematurely, they won't automatically think they were lied to, they may instead consider their vaping frequency, or that new 1.8Ω carto they are trying as the culprit.

Will that interfere with my pacemaker?
 

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mah = Milliamps Hour, and the higher the amps you're drawing the less hours you get. That's why a low ohm coil drains your battery so much faster. You'd have to only be drawing about 1 amp to get 20 hours from a 2000 mah battery.

I don't think I could draw a lamp in an hour, is that important? Oh wait, I get 20 hours to draw one lamp?
 

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If 100mAh is one hour, that helps me a lot to know, even if it isn't exact. I'm not gonna be butthurt if a 650mAh battery only lasts me 4 hours, because I know it means *I'm* doing something other than what was expected, not the battery itself.

That's the thing though - 100 mAh = 1 hour of use is only (supposedly) true on paper. It doesn't appear to be true for anyone vaping, so if you get frustrated and feel *You* have done something wrong, it's not helpful. I mean that as a collective "you," not you personally. New vapers start threads all the time saying that they were told to do XXX and it's not working. I was told that according to the charts I should be vaping this head at 8 watts and it tastes burnt, what am I doing wrong?
 
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