102 days down the tubes, i am ripped

[WolfeReign]

Before i get right into the tick of things, please note that a majority of this is indeed going to be a rant, but after 3 months 12 days of being of cig's i was forced to buy a pack last night and light up and tossing this over again and again in my mind i think i need to get this of my chest. This is in no way shape or form asking for a PIF either, i will no longer do it I have been through some huge stresses and did not go to the cigarette's not even tempted. With my wife's help i stayed with my PV

Long story short, sure i joined ECF in December and i made of stumbles and falls, but April 10th 3am (central) was when i dug in and gave a mighty lift off to do this. Since then i have done countless PIF's with juice, tanks, cart's, batteries....in fact more recently i did a huge PIF giving away batteries and carts and juice (later find out it was just someone who wanted free things to say they got it for free, and then pawned them off).....

So Since the beginning of July i got two ego dragon totems, and a Altoids box mod that only need's 4 AA batteries......things seemed to be going well, i have a aging cart for a tank, i have two fire birds, two v510's, a stardust and vision grande i had five atomizers for dripping. About a week later i got the evo v3.....i was not worried about much....

about two weeks ago i was down to a stardust, a v510, one LR bridge less atty, one SR atty. Again i was not worried. Friday that just passed (it is Sunday now) both the ego dragon totems died. By this i mean i put the LR atty on and the light would flash then go out, when i took the atty off the light would come on. In both cases they were starting to warm up on their own. My best guess is that the circuits inside fried and they were stuck in low power mode. Yes i contacted the vendor to let him know and said very nicely maybe to keep a eye out for the issue. But i was basically told why did i not send them back to him. Lets see...it is Friday....it would take till Thursday to get to him...they were in lower power mode.....the heat would start to burn the envelope....which means who lily white....atty.....would be in trouble with the government? not his....

As ripped as i was i was not overly worried, not even with the smoketech rejuivinator crapped out, not even when the stardust gave it's last tout of life, but i hunted around, did some more private group posts asking for some help, even stating i would serve up some coin for atty's/cart's not being used/not wanted, and yes i even contacted someone local.

Saturday (yesterday) seen the death of the LR bridge less atty, the SR atty, the V510....now i was hitting the panic button.....i redoubled my posts (even to some local vendors) as this was a true 911 emergency, glad it could be pushed aside.

9:30pm last night (Saturday) seen the passing on of the frail lone cart for the tank, thus ending my touting (did that sound wrong or is it just me?) I stalked off to the store and bought a pack of smokes, came home dug out my ashtray and lighter sat down grumbling to myself and lit up.

So there sits the equipment: a version three evo with four 18350's, the Altoids box mod, a drip shield, a few drip tips, 7ml of red bull like juice, 4ml of watermelon, 20ml of toffee (YUCK anyway), and 8ml of Carmel Coffee juice. Nothing to using them with but i have them.

I am curious when this whole thing of hey lets help one another turned into a huge cluster boink and now it is lets help just me as i am greedy and need it?. Seriously! the more i think about the more i want to take the sledge hammer to this stuff and vent my frustrations and say i am done with it. this has seriously frosted by atty

 

[the wind]

WOW the main difference between me and you is i bought alot more cartomizers than you.i tryed alot of styles and got way more than needed to find the right fit.i made sure there was no way to run out.sorry if this does not help since i hear the fustration in your words.

 

[JAY73]

it sucks when greedy people suck the life from charities like pif i have never asked cause i am always low on basic gear by the the end of the thirty day cycle that is ssi i feel your pain and frustration but keep strong and wish i could help you out good luck and god bless...

 

[WolfeReign]

it sucks when greedy people suck the life from charities like pif i have never asked cause i am always low on basic gear by the the end of the thirty day cycle that is ssi i feel your pain and frustration but keep strong and wish i could help you out good luck and god bless...

Thanks and no need to wish, this was not to get PIF, like i said that is not what i want, and this was more for venting then anything else. I would rather vent here, then be snappish and snap at my wonderful wife who has nothing but been strong and support me through the transition of no cigarettes to vaping.

WOW the main difference between me and you is i bought alot more cartomizers than you.i tryed alot of styles and got way more than needed to find the right fit.i made sure there was no way to run out.sorry if this does not help since i hear the fustration in your words.

it's all good, and after all as shrek said better out then in. Sometimes even a small rant can help and i would have to agree with you, i did gain experience here. I am not saying this goes for every single person as all situations are different, but for myself i am done trying to help out, and the like. Hopefully Monday the pay check will be in the bank where i am planning to order some SR bridge less atomizers, a few fire birds, another smoketech rejuvenator, and a few bridgeless LR atomizers, with about 30ml's of juice (until Friday when i can put in a larger order). I am now wondering of the version three evo with it's pulse width was the culprit, but that makes no sense as i have had it more then a few days now and there was no issue....i will have to use one SR fire bird on it, and then a smoktech on the Altoids box mod and see if either die out....if they do then i know what happened for sure.

 

[fray]

well I wouldn't call it 102 days down the tubes. It was 102 days that you did not put tar and crap in your lungs and in your body. It was 102 days you could breathe a little easier and didn't smell like smoke. If you smoke a pack a day that is 2040 cigarettes you didn't smoke. That is quite an achievement even if you had a slip up. Be proud of yourself, get what you need, and hop right back off of the nasties.

Just start day 103 when you get your new stuff in, no reason to start all over.

 

[WolfeReign]

well I wouldn't call it 102 days down the tubes. It was 102 days that you did not put tar and crap in your lungs and in your body. It was 102 days you could breathe a little easier and didn't smell like smoke. If you smoke a pack a day that is 2040 cigarettes you didn't smoke. That is quite an achievement even if you had a slip up. Be proud of yourself, get what you need, and hop right back off of the nasties.

Just start day 103 when you get your new stuff in, no reason to start all over.

Hunny Bunny my wife said the same thing believe it or not. Thank you for the kind words, but it is personal umm preference to see it as all or none in this

 

[AttyPops]

If you can afford to buy smokes, you probably don't NEED PIF (as wonderful as it is).

See this post http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...16458-few-newbie-questions-2.html#post6742607

Also, we all get frustrated with hardware. And we learn to overcome it. It's part of the learning curve.

Check out the posts about ohm's law and wattage. You have to educate yourself on this stuff (unfortunately) to understand why things heat up and get stressed. Or just find a combination that works well (like a 3.7 volt e-cig with 2.0 ohm atties/cartos).

I can find a lot of reasons to go back to smoking. Also, a lot of reasons to stay away. Your choice. Free country.

I do sympathize with hardware frustrations. Even a simple atty can be frustrating (particularly with carts, cart mods... anyone remember springs, PTB mods, blue foam, ....?). Hang in there and overcome.

 

[dirfm]

I agree with some of your rant, and also feel it helps some to rant. I am frustrated with some of my set-up, but am fortunate enough to have a few back-ups. Keep it up and let us know if you need anything! There are quite a few of us here that really are here to help!

 

[JENerationX]

Was there anyone local to you? I know if anyone local to me was in that situation, I'd at least be able to give them a VoltX2 and a couple clearos, cartos, or something to tide them over.

I'm sorry that nobody helped you.... but it's not 102 days down the tubes unless you allow it to be. Order a month's supply of cartos, stardusts, or whatever it is you use, and get back on that horse.

You could also post your location here and see if someone can help you out.

 

[DC2]

When people take advantage of generosity, it certainly is a huge slap in the face.
If you found out someone was abusing PIF I certainly hope you got them banned from participating.

I don't like bullies, and I don't like people who take advantage of other people.
As far as I'm concerned, such people are among the scum of the earth.

 

[ogredog]

Sorry for your troubles. Sucks but....

Ecigs take planning and buying ahead. They take fiddling sometimes. They are not as convienant as smokes. You MUST buy backups especially a charger. You must have a million cartos/attys-or w.e. u use and more juice than u can possibly use.....then its safe and the cost goes down. Electronics/batteries don't last 4ever though and we constantly use and abuse them- i know I do. So things do need to be replaced.

I am always happy to help someone so sorry for that.....and have a number of times

But....

U r responsible for yourself. BUY YOUR OWN CRAP

 

[wv2win]

If you can save up enough money, you might want to consider a PV that comes with a one, two year or lifetime warranty and then just have an inexpensive backup if you ever have to send it in for repair. Plus make sure it is one that can use any atty or carto without harming the switch or battery. That means you want a PV with at least a 3 amp limit but 3.5 - 4 amp would be better. Then you basically just need to insure you have enough attys/cartos and eliquid. There are seveal PV's in this category that I am aware of. Most are variable but the fixed volt GLV2 comes with a lifetime warranty. Here is the web site:

Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

 

[Wishdog]

Well, I'm doing things a little different. I don't have the cash to buy tons of cool stuff. I've spent a total of $60 on everything so far.

2x Ego-T clone in kit. Basically $20 for two 650 batts and a charger, I burnt out the cones attys with my ignorance.
1x 1100 passthrough for $17.
5 pack of bogue LR cartos which I baby and haven't lost one. $7.
5 pack of CE3 XLs which I didn't understand my VG liquid was too thick for and burned out three of. $10.
T2 tank with replaceable head. $5 with a spare $2 head.
Edited to add: Oh, and a free Stardust a vendor threw in that I destroyed in three days with some licorice juice. That stuff cracks polycarbonate too but you can't read it here easily.

That's it for my hardware so far. Yeah, cheap stuff. $61 and I'm good to go. I'll be buying more CE3s. And one of the E2 batts if DV gets them in in white this next payday.

I dont' count fluid in my costs as it's cheaper than everything. Since my wife lost her job in Feb, I haven't been on cigs before I switched to vaping, but dip tobacco, which I highly don't reccomend though it is safer than cigs. But it is cheap, not as cheap as liquid, but has no up front capital cost. In fact, Skoal Citrus is actually pretty good, but the spitting is barbaric.

Sorry you went big on the hardware and it all went south on you.

To each his own. I, personally, would love to smoke, but only in a fantasy world where my clothes wouldn't stink, it wouldn't effect my health, and it didn't cost so much. Years ago, on my second lapse into nicotine addiction, I was able to order Peter I from Russia, great cigs for a person who likes full flavor. Three cartons for $32 shipped. But those days are over and they're about $35 per carton now, with most companies going out of business due to the US's more rigid regs.

But, I'll never fault a nic-addict for smoking. But, heck, nic-gum is cheaper.

 

[Butters78]

Sorry about your problems..

BTW I always thought ripped meant muscular, like "dang that dude is ripped!" lol

 

[yvilla]

Two words: Rebuildable atomizer.

Whether a Bulli type or a genesis type, if you have one of those and some (cheap as dirt) wire and wick, you'll never be without a way to vape.

 

[WolfeReign]

When people take advantage of generosity, it certainly is a huge slap in the face.
If you found out someone was abusing PIF I certainly hope you got them banned from participating.

I don't like bullies, and I don't like people who take advantage of other people.
As far as I'm concerned, such people are among the scum of the earth.

I could not agree with you more, but as a old saying i used to say this is the nature of the beast, and now that i am wiser over it (and calmer since writing this out), i can say it is indeed a lesson learnt

Was there anyone local to you? I know if anyone local to me was in that situation, I'd at least be able to give them a VoltX2 and a couple clearos, cartos, or something to tide them over.

He is, and just trying to work out a meeting now (prays) for today

I agree with some of your rant, and also feel it helps some to rant. I am frustrated with some of my set-up, but am fortunate enough to have a few back-ups. Keep it up and let us know if you need anything! There are quite a few of us here that really are here to help!

I have learned that lesson now, and like i said Starting tomorrow, and every juice order will be slipping in a fire bird, and smoketech and some other cheap cart/atty. Also if you have a spare Taridis? Delorian with flux capacitor?

If you can afford to buy smokes, you probably don't NEED PIF (as wonderful as it is).

I would have to agree with that statement and again i am not asking for a PIF, it is more amazement that those you ask for it, meanwhile they have tons of stuff, but still feel the need to milk things

Sorry about your problems..

BTW I always thought ripped meant muscular, like "dang that dude is ripped!" lol

lol it was that of having the censor program go nuts as i say "man i am so because my carts have decided to let go and i took my back ups of the backups and sent them to some being who in my eyes and words for them are a

Wait....that is not a bad idea! seeing as Old Soldier, Joker and class wife have ran to the censors generator to put out the fire we can raid their juices

 

[therealcmac]

How do you manage to kill all these batts, atties and stardusts? I have seen you go through SO many devices and accessories since you have become a member here. I have stardusts that I have been using for 5 months, I have atties that have lasted me the same amount of time.....I did see you blow out some LR V510s at 6V on your pistol grip, are you just using your stuff at way too high voltage? Or is there some kind of equipment curse looming over you

 

[WolfeReign]

How do you manage to kill all these batts, atties and stardusts? I have seen you go through SO many devices and accessories since you have become a member here. I have stardusts that I have been using for 5 months, I have atties that have lasted me the same amount of time.....I did see you blow out some LR V510s at 6V on your pistol grip, are you just using your stuff at way too high voltage? Or is there some kind of equipment curse looming over you

Hmm, i went through my notes and i will a time line of what all has happened to it:

When i first started: It all Started with a 808 fumma from the states, i believe at the time i was a evil furby for being a Canadian using a USA e-cig, never had a lick of problems getting the carts which said right on the bill of waiting there was nicotine

January 2012 That was when i graduated to the smoking nv starter kit with second 808 battery but there was no nicotine, still was a evil furby for having a system with no nic in it.

February 2012 place a order through canvape. That order was comprised of: 1-1100man ego pass through, 1-carry case, 1-smokey 510 drip tip, 2-30ml bottles, Extreme Vision 3.5ML Clearomizer LR. Now if i am not mistaken LR = Low resistance which means it is fine to use on a ego. The pass through i had was the ego one, and after the initial charge i was able to tell that it was unregulated just by juice taste. Of course with a few hours the clearo had burnt out, and being a LR on a ego not sure how one could pump the power two high. You have to remember that this is before the twist. That pass through happened to destroy a LR ego atomizer, and ego t that i had gotte

March 2012: In desperation i order from happy vaper which was the boge 808's, 5-pack carts, 4 smoktech dual coils (to use on the ego's), a LR clearo, The smoketech one lasted 5 minutes on the ego, smoktech 2 and 3 where DOA cases whole smotech 5 died. The LR clear hung in there on two other 650 genuine ego's (hmmm)

Middle of March canvape (Tom actually) said when i ordered from them to let them know of the issue, and they would send me out a few carts to make sure i was not so close to a pack of smokes. The first v510 (as you seen blow in the video) lasted to said video. The Stardust they send me rocked on the glass started cracking (it was a version one). At this time i purchased a Joytech ego 900mah , two boge's 808's and a five pack carts. I got a few more smoketechs and a generic clearo. one smoketech passed on on the pass through and the clear and v510 rocked on the other ego batteries. Also wondered into the realm of tanks.

Aprilbeyond reasons that do not need to be explained hereI spent vacation time with my wife. At the end of this Vacation time i gave her the two purple boog's and two carts as a memento of the vacation and wonderful time we had together.

May Ordered more stardusts, got a few carts for the tanks and got myself a second silver ego t tank and their carts which seemed to be DOA. When i contacted the vendor on the DOA state i was told i was pretty much I was still at the time on the look out for a ego atomizer. purchased a lone kanger LR then too. Went to my first vape meet, Acquired a saber touch, and a multi stage pass through ego from canvape (that broke three days later btw), trading my ego's (650's and 900) plus the two smoking nv 808's, 15 carts, two drip tips, two tanks, and the 808 pass through.

Last week of May thinking i would be nice, as she said she never had a good go with them and wanted to try...i sent Chelly four stardusts (one of which was a version 3 as the other three were version 2), and a lanyard for her boyfriends ego so as he did not run a risk of breaking his battery.

June replaced the DOA tank carts with one more, got the pistol grip mod from jugheads, one of there version 3 LED clearo's and then i had also gotten the Eco Vapour gear to review. On and also purchased a 650 ego pass through. The video you saw of me blowing the v510 was the original i purchased from canvape in February.

Near the end of June There was a Canadian on the east coast asking for a PIF, and with all the belly aching people were doing i thought i would man up to it, sending 5 never opened bottles of juice, a ego c with two new heads, two ego pass troughs, a new v510, 4-unopened Kangers, 3-unopened boges
a usb car adapter for the pass troughs, and two smokey drip tips never used but i had wanted to. At this time i sold the pistol grip using those funds to acquired the version two lava tube. Also helped a young vapor lad out with a tank carts for said tank and juices......come to think of it, she never did log back in since she got mine and numerous other peoples "gifts". When i sent her a PM a few days after she got it, last word i got was she had a lung infection due to vaping and smoking was the only thing that cured it

July Having three SR (now this still means standard resistance which means it can be used on low volts and high volts right? this has not changed?) a couple of v510's and a couple fire bird's (which i found a awesome solution to those that had trouble with them), i had won the ego twist (which did not impress me) and i got myself two of the dragon totem ego's (Long Túténg Zìwǒ in Chinese) and the Altoids box mod (taking 4 AA's and pushing out 5.9V, lasting 3+ days and i am a heavy vaper), a aluminum tank i figured i was good to go.

not to far back Someone wanted a crack at vaping, and had a ego so i forked over two fire bird's, and a few of the new v510's. That was when i noticed that one of the SR atty's died and i could not think of why or how. Slowly coming around the idea of ego's where ok, and constantly reaching for the altoids box instead of the version two lavatube sold that and applied those funds to more juice and order from vaporus of 3 DCT carts (which three fell apart in my hand), a drip shield (one o-ring is missing), and four 18350's for something else i have here. Finally realizing it but not till too late the dragon totems shorted out shorting the carts i had left. When the batteries did finally completely short, they went into low power mod as they were gradually warming up...sorry but i am not in the mood to put my name and address on a envelope to send those back to him, and hope they did not catch the envelope on fire or turn into a letter bomb, call me silly this way.

Friday that just passed I was now down to one sole remaining cart, as i had thrown the dragon totems out, and i had found a way to keep the Altoids box mod on ego mod. Checking with a vendor here in town on his stock that i could buy sent a email asking if i could pick it up. Making sure all bases is covered went to the local interest room on here and made a post about how i was in serious and made a offer to buy a few carts/atomizers off them if possible.

Saturday Mid afternoon i removed the post in there, and the vendor got a hold of me, as the sole remaining cart at this time was not working. I should have realized what was to come, and even sent out a few emails to people i knew here in town to ask them if i could get a cart or two, but ask on a one to one level.

Sunday Vendor got back to me, and i was the evil furby again as i did not have ego's, i did not like the ego's and seeing as i had mods then this made me a unworthy vapor figured there was something when he was dancing along the subject the whole time.

When you think about it, i believe i did alright as the only real questions i had was on batteries for the mod's, i put together the whole idea of PWM, SR, LR, and many other things on my own so i would like think when it comes to intelligent vaping conversations i can hold my own and have offered said knowledge to a lot of questions. My wife (Hunny Bunny) is highly intelligent on the subject as well, and though she was never a vapor can offer a lot of information and relate it to people very well.

~UPDATE~

Today July 24th 2012 have gotten some SR (again this is for high voltages right?) and LR (hmm ego volts right? yes bad 4am sarcasm) so as i can use one on the mod i am not talking about and the LR on the Altoids mod in ego mode just waiting for it to get here so as i can stop buying smokes

In all this and yes it is always finest to find a positive in the gloom, there was more then one lesson learned, and some great decisions between me and hunny bunny so that is the bonus, to make sure no one is alarmed or concerned on my spending so much on ALL those devices, i figured i would help ease those alarms and concerns by making sure i do not participate in P.I.F's, helping those in a lurch, or bothering to "convert" smokers that is step one of the five step program me and hunny bunny created .

The you tube channel was removed as i no longer needed the gmail account and when i deleted the gmail it removed my you tube account (oh well) which has left me more time to produce the wonderful short stories that have seemed to be received very well, and that is where the real thrill is

 

[IamAurora]

Advice from the Imaginary Vaper's Handbook, Chapter One:

Rule #1: Always have back-ups.
Rule #2: Always have back-ups for your back-ups.

 

[WolfeReign]

Advice from the Imaginary Vaper's Handbook, Chapter One:

Rule #1: Always have back-ups.
Rule #2: Always have back-ups for your back-ups.

Rule#3 to Rule#99: look out for yourself. Do not bother helping a fellow Vapor. Do not try to help the new. Do not waste time answering a potential convert.

I got those written down