11 months of vaping and still trying to find best options...

[robertboyl]

Hi, everyone

Almost 1 year without analogs!

Im wondering for any advice. I started with EGO-T, have tried several things, Ego-T and C tank system, cartomizers (boge - didnt like too much, Health cabin cartomizer, etc), systems similar to vivi nova such as T2 (broke before I finished my coils) but not near as good, Health cabin's tank where you put a metal cartomizer in the tube - many floods etc!), etc.

I had really good experience with vivi nova. although i did get a few bad atomizers, most are good and it ran well. my goal is to have good vape, TH, when I most need it...

I have also a Provari. So right now Ive been using the Provari mostly and sometimes Ego-C as I have coils for it.

The vivi has proven reliable, non leaking, etc.

1) I see the vivi has great reviews and feedback from users.I read about some pyrex vivi nova like system like Mom & Pop. Is it worth it? Or stick to Vivi nova? as I know, new pyrex system means also more costs, a new type of coil, etc.

2) I see other new systems like the iTaste, are they worth a shot? Sometimes I like to have 2 mechanisms.

My goal, worry free, of course, good vape, TH, ease of use...

The rebuildables is something I dont plan to get into.

Thanks!

 

[RPadTV]

2) I see other new systems like the iTaste, are they worth a shot? Sometimes I like to have 2 mechanisms.

If you're talking about the iTaste MVP, I think it's one of the best values in vaping today.

 

[Tibby]

Try the HH.357 Cisco spec atomizer for something new. research how to properly use it and you will be pleased. One of my tanks has a flooding dual punched carto in it now. I don't have alot of experience with cartos but I feel like they are hit and miss.

 

[Tibby]

The original iTaste is not a great device from what I have seen. My brother inlaw owns one and had problems with it. Alot of folks seem to really like the VV mod box from mad vapes. That may be an inexpensive 2nd device. I have read good things abiut the iTaste MVP and also heard a few folks having issues with battery life.

 

[Ansah]

Yeah it's a confusing array of options... I'm dealing with this too.

What didn't you like about the boge? Right now, I am vaping on a boge 2.0 with an Ego C, and in terms of draw, TH, consistency and certainly in terms of ease of use, it's great. What I don't like is the disposable nature of cartos, and the fact that I never have any idea how much is left and when I need to top it off with juice. Plus, I think these are going to waste eliquid in the long run because they will burn out with the filler still half-full of nonredeemable juice.

 

[Salt&PePPer]

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Try the HH.357 Cisco spec atomizer for something new. research how to properly use it and you will be pleased. One of my tanks has a flooding dual punched carto in it now. I don't have alot of experience with cartos but I feel like they are hit and miss.

Unfortunately A LOT of eCig accessories are HIT and MISS just do to the poor quality of the products coming from China. Especially items that don't have a warranty. Such as I bought a Five Pack of Kanger T2s back in July and One of them was leaking right from the get go. Sorry there is no warranty on it so I essentially purchased 4 T2s instead of 5!

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[noi_max]

Health cabin's tank where you put a metal cartomizer in the tube - many floods etc!

There's a bit of a craft to doing carto-tanks. I haven't owned one yet, but I think this little video would be most helpful to anyone getting into cartomizers with tanks.

Electronic Cigarettes 101: Tank Basics - YouTube

Baditude posted that vid in this thread on carto-tanks vs the Vivi Nova clearomizer. A good read, and has me considering going to cartos again just to check it out.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...e-between-cartomizer-vs-vivi-nova-insane.html

 

[robertboyl]

Hi, everyone

Thanks for tips. About Boge, I didnt like the fact that its not transparent, so I never know when its over and that burnt taste... I really prefer something transparent (not sure if Boge has that)...

I guess Ill stick with Vivi Nova.

Do you guys know if the pyrex tank systems like Moms and Pops (pyrex I think) is better then Vivi nova? Or similar? It seems to use the Boge, while Vivi uses a small coil system...

Tanks - Mom and Pop Vapor Shop

Thanks

 

[kiwivap]

Some will tell you its better, and some will tell you vivi novas are better. Truth is its probably about preference.

 

[robertboyl]

Thanks again. Yeah, Im searching here some posts and finding a lot of info I guess Vivis are more practical for me as Im abroad and the coils are small.

Are there any tank systems similar to vivi, that use smaller coil? For me its bettter to import or have someone bring.

 

[kiwivap]

Thanks again. Yeah, Im searching here some posts and finding a lot of info I guess Vivis are more practical for me as Im abroad and the coils are small.

Are there any tank systems similar to vivi, that use smaller coil? For me its bettter to import or have someone bring.

I don't know of any. The vivi coils are pretty small. I import them to where I am.

 

[zapped]

What ratio of pg/vg do you use?

In another thread on vivi novas it seems like for those using higher vg juices the flavor is muted quite a bit in comparison to carto tanks. A Vivi Nova is basically a clearomizer/tank hybrid.

Cost wise, you wont be spending much more for replacements as each carto lasts from 2 weeks to a month depending on how much juice you put through it.While Pyrex is more expensive initially it wont react with citrus or cinnamon juices and will last a lot longer than plastic or polypropylene.

 

[kiwivap]

What ratio of pg/vg do you use?

In another thread on vivi novas it seems like for those using higher vg juices the flavor is muted quite a bit in comparison to carto tanks. A Vivi Nova is basically a clearomizer/tank hybrid.

OP said they have no problems with vivi nova "I had really good experience with vivi nova.".

 

[zapped]

OP said they have no problems with vivi nova "I had really good experience with vivi nova.".

I can read Kiwi.The owner also expressed an interest in carto tanks and wondered if there would be much difference in taste.I was asking that question so I could answer his better.

You really need to stop skimming posts and read the entire thing

 

[kiwivap]

I can read Kiwi.The owner also expressed an interest in carto tanks and wondered if there would be much difference in taste.I was asking that question so I could answer his better.

Ok, it read to me like you were trying to trouble shoot. Understood.

You really need to stop skimming posts and read the entire thing

I read the whole thread. You need to stop being rude.

 

[SissySpike]

A glass cartomizer tank and a cart is far superior to ViVIs IMO

 

[kiwivap]

The GP Spheroid has everything your looking for its expensive and you have to seek it out but IMO well worth the money and effort. It is a rebuild-able but one of the easier ones

What's the price on those?

 

[DaveP]

Cartos are pretty finicky at times and the QC is spotty, but they are reliable vapes if you don't mind a little tweaking. The telltale sign that a carto is getting low on juice is a drop off in taste and white filler when you pop off the tip and look inside. Sometimes the filler will be grey when you look in, but the flavor has declined. That's usually a sign of poor wicking. I can usually fix that by putting drops into the threaded end, right next to the coil.

Boges were my favorite until the QC on those became intolerable. Right not, I'm using a Boge clone that was specially designed for Stormy's Vapor Cellar, the SVC Cloud Maker. They soak up juice quickly and vape well with good flavor. As good as the SVC cartos are, I did have one bad one out of the first box that require saturating from the threaded end frequently.

Smoktech cartos have also been good in my experience. There just has to be a reliable delivery system with no downside. I like thin and compact, as in stainless steel cartos. I also expect superior performance (like the Boges used to have).

 

[rojo]

Before I got my Penelopes, carto tanks were my delivery method of choice. I just used a cheap-o smoktech dct tank with boge long, single-coil cartos to replace the spent smoktech ones. If you don't mind getting a saddle valve or carto punch and making your own holes, I think a carto tank will offer the consistency and capacity you are seeking. It doesn't matter whether your tank is Pyrex, plastic or metal. The performance is determined by the carto, not the tank.

Boge cartos for the win -- or at least, they were the win when I used them. After reading DaveP's comments I'm not entirely certain now. I used to get my Boges from the vapor girl. I liked IkenVape's atties when I used them, so maybe their mega cartos would be worth trying. IKV's pre-punched cartos are only a dime more than the punch yourself ones, but I'd still recommend getting a carto punch in case IKV is sold out of the pre-punched whenever you need to restock. High desert vapes is a good place to shop for tanks.

The difference between those DCT / carto tanks and the kanger t2, vivi nova, etc is that vivi nova heads are atties, not cartos. In my experience, it takes only one dry hit before the atty or carto forevermore has a burnt undertone and never performs like new again*; and you're much less likely to get a dry hit with a carto in a half-full tank than with a half-full Vivi / T2 / similar clearo. The stuffing in a carto seems to make feeding a little more consistent without having to turn upside down when your tank is half full or any other such acrobatics. If you do decide to try another vivi, make sure it's branded as a Vision vivi nova. Knockoffs suck.

* Some may argue that the burnt taste will go away after a few juiced hits, but it's still not the same flavor as new.

 

[zapped]

Plastic, Pyrex and Steel do make a difference performance wise to some people.I can taste the plastic in plastic tanks and unless theyre polypropylene some juices will crack them pretty quickly.

I havent tried stainless steel because Im scared Ill be able to taste it just like the plastic ones and while theres no worry about cracking I do worry about citric acid on metal.

Pyrex was a better choice for me because its non-reactive to everything and extremely tough.

I hear Boge, Smoktek and Ikenvape Platinum cartos mentioned a lot in tank threads, so you should be good with any of those athough I can only personally speak for the Smokteks.