HG2's and 30Q's have higher mah, but VTC4's can handle a higher amp load. Are you sure you've been reading Mooch's tests/tables?
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HG2's and 30Q's have higher mah, but VTC4's can handle a higher amp load. Are you sure you've been reading Mooch's tests/tables?
HG2's and 30Q's have higher mah, but VTC4's can handle a higher amp load. Are you sure you've been reading Mooch's tests/tables?
I have and 3extra amps for a loss of 900mah doesn't seem worth it especially in a regulated device.
Well in all honesty, any 150 to 200watt dual battery device above 120 to 150watts, needs 30amp CDR batteries, but given like most you like others cry foul because the only 4 true 30amp CDR batteries are all 1500 to 1600mah in storage capacity. Most 20amp batteries are really not safe above 100 to 120watts in a dual battery series mod, the VTC4 is recommended highly as one of the only 20amp CDR batteries that break that mold as they can be wiggled occassionally up into the 180watt range (though at the cost of battery longevity) with the LG HD2C (25amps 2000mah) coming in behind that at around 150watts. Another reason the VTC4 is suggested so highly is due to going on now a 2 year track record of being such a reliable high discharge that is flexible with a moderate mah rating, name me another "Name Brand" "A Bin" battery that can be run in a single or dual battery mech/regulated, that is so flexible, has decent mah, such a high discharge capability, and has such a safe track record as the VTC4 and still currently in production. Go into talking about a triple battery series configuration, oh all day I'd suggest the LG HG2 or Samsung 30Q, max CDR needed at 200watts there is in the 21amp to 22amp range.
Now if someone specifically says, yeah I have a 200watt dual battery mod that I run max watts of 110watts, there I was just given one key to a "Watts Law" formula to figure out a safe battery for them to use, which at that level, yes any 20amp battery works, but still the HG2 and especially the 30Q do not really shine above 100watts, but a whole host of others, namely the VTC4 and HD2C at the top, followed by the Samsung 25R, LG HE2/HE4, Sony VTC5, and pulling up the rear the HG2 and lastly the 30Q.
Still at those high discharge rates above 120watts, 900 extra mah isn't much of a consolation prize, what 10 maybe 15 extra minutes of "Cloudz Brah" vape time versus actual safety of knowing the batteries in your mod can handle that load safely, for a member that is new or not really savvy on battery ability and safety, I'll err on the side of safety and caution and suggest the "Safest" battery before letting them run in the shaky realm of probability and theory, that is why the VTC4 is so highly suggested, not because everyone is a fanboy of it, but because the VTC4 gets the job done.
Per said tests,
HG2 Max continuous amps: 20
30Q Max continuous amps: 25
VTC4 Max continuous amps: 30
That's why. It's not all about the mAh.
what about if it's revered reversed, LG HB6 30A or any other 30A betteries below 120w will it hurt the battery? so im guessing its more lenient to just get 30A batteries
Oh ya and before I asked this forum I asked a snow wolf tech, they said I should repair the device. They said "your battery pair was probably damaged and the outta ring of the positive side is a negative connection.
this can cause a short in the device due to the offset of the current.
you can send in your device for repairs if youd like."
Do you guys think it's necessary? 60$ to send in and stuff :/
this can cause a short in the device due to the offset of the current.
you can send in your device for repairs if youd like."
Do you guys think it's necessary? 60$ to send in and stuff :/
The 30Q is advertised as 15A, but has an actual CDR of 20A. Its MCA is 25A. It's nice to see a battery manufacturer underpromise and overdeliver, as opposed to those junk "40A" Chinese re-wraps.
Samsung Rating = 15A
Mooch Rating Test = 20A
Overall combination 15-20A max CDR
I suggest it at the bottom of my list of respectable batteries due to that 15A Manufacturer rating, but with caution if you run it in the 20A range.
Tbh, I trust Mooch's tests more.
He's quite meticulous. If he says the actual CDR is 20A, then it's 20A.
I never get anywhere near the limit. When I bought my RX200, I thought I'd be occasionally vaping at >100W, but I just... don't.
I like porn and my head hurts!
Person asking all these questions, are you keeping these batteries as "matched sets", or "married"? You need to have batteries that are charged and discharged as a pair, or trio, whatever the case may be for your mod. If you are not, you are going to have continuous problems of this nature! If not much worse!
I'm honestly not sure that's now what happened here, are all the batteries the same? Somehow I doubt it.
As for a 3600mah 18650, someone lied to you! The battery that went was a re-wrapped low rate battery, sold to you as a way over ratted battery.
In the future, stick with Sony, LG or Panasonic, buy them from RTDvapor, Illumination supply or Orbitronics. YES, you will pay a bit more, but you will get a GOOD, SAFE battery!
Take the batteries you have, dispose of them properly, buy two sets, if it takes two batteries, buy four, if it takes three batteries, buy six. Buy a GOOD charger, from one of the vendors listed above, LABEL the batteries in a manner you will understand that they need to STAY together. Then charge them together, discharge them together, then charge them together and so on! But keep them as they are married and can't be used alone! Please!
Person asking all these questions, are you keeping these batteries as "matched sets", or "married"? You need to have batteries that are charged and discharged as a pair, or trio, whatever the case may be for your mod. If you are not, you are going to have continuous problems of this nature! If not much worse!
I'm honestly not sure that's now what happened here, are all the batteries the same? Somehow I doubt it.
As for a 3600mah 18650, someone lied to you! The battery that went was a re-wrapped low rate battery, sold to you as a way over ratted battery.
In the future, stick with Sony, LG or Panasonic, buy them from RTDvapor, Illumination supply or Orbitronics. YES, you will pay a bit more, but you will get a GOOD, SAFE battery!
Take the batteries you have, dispose of them properly, buy two sets, if it takes two batteries, buy four, if it takes three batteries, buy six. Buy a GOOD charger, from one of the vendors listed above, LABEL the batteries in a manner you will understand that they need to STAY together. Then charge them together, discharge them together, then charge them together and so on! But keep them as they are married and can't be used alone! Please!
Tbh, I trust Mooch's tests more.
He's quite meticulous. If he says the actual CDR is 20A, then it's 20A.
I never get anywhere near the limit. When I bought my RX200, I thought I'd be occasionally vaping at >100W, but I just... don't.
*Whispers*
It's all in the psychology, tell the person asking it does less than what it can do, either 1) they stay below in the safety range, or 2) my favorite, they don't buy them and leave all the more for me to buy
I still believe the VCT5's can do 30a, but that's me and I don't sell anyone else on it.*Whispers*
It's all in the psychology, tell the person asking it does less than what it can do, either 1) they stay below in the safety range, or 2) my favorite, they don't buy them and leave all the more for me to buy
*Whispers*
It's all in the psychology, tell the person asking it does less than what it can do, either 1) they stay below in the safety range, or 2) my favorite, they don't buy them and leave all the more for me to buy
Ah, yes. You're a crafty one.
Actually, in my experience, these online vendors have very competitive prices, and provide free battery cases if you buy in pairs, (or more).
I was trying to justify to the OP the price of the batteries from them, vs. the WAY over rated batteries they've already purchased.
Yup, thats why I was asking where the 25A max CDR data came from. I know mooch did a test and they actually performed very very similar to the HG2s. I mean if it is true that the 30Q can do 25A CDR then I'm probably going to get those from now on.
Personally wouldn't trust them at 25 to 30amps without active liquid or cryo-cooling, we use passive air cooling so 15-20amp is more than adequate for most vapers these days anyway in passive.
True. Its still one of my go to 18650s along with the LG HG2s and maybe the VTC5s which I just ordered and wanted to see if they were authentic. Like most of us out there I rarely go above 70W on a daily basis so 20Amps per battery is more than enough for me.
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