1st successful build on my Kayfun!!

[cmangoboogie]

I've got a Stillare clone and a Kayfun clone. Those are my two shots I've take at rebuildables.
My first problem was my builds kept coming up under .5 so my evic supreme would give me the faulty atomizer reading and not fire. 2nd problem was if I did get them to fire after a few vapes it taste real burnt (the stillare dripper cotton actually started fire? ) so.....anyway
My go with rebuildable s wasn't to cloud chase it was more just to save some cash and stop buying bdc coils every minute.
So finally got myself an ohm resistance meter and found a coil doc to go by. Using both I built a 1.3ohm coil on my kayfun.
It tasted great (at first) clouds where bigger and smoother then from my nautilus aspire. Which to me meant YA I met my diy goal for the time being. Then I started getting that damn burnt taste . Now I haven't opened up the kayfun due to it being full of juice but im wondering if the cotton somehow ignited again like with the stillare dripper. I gave up on building the stillare dripper for this exact reasonn I dunno maybe rebuildable isn't for me. I usually rock 1.8 ohm dual coil nautilus aspire at between 3.7-4.3 v on the supreme. I have mvp but its been dropped so many times I know it gives improper readings . Never gives a good drag..basically use it for its back up battery. Any suggestions. Thanks new to the forum. Used to just troll it finally made account

 

[Susan~S]

Congratulations!

Here are a few links for you regarding building coils and getting the resistance just where you want it:

1. Steam Engine
2. Coil Toy Calculator

The Steam Engine is much more than just a coil calculator. I consider it my "All in One" vaping calculator.

 

[DoubleEwe]

It sounds like your problem is with your wicks. Either too much cotton or blocked juice channels or both.

Until you can open up your Kayfun and take a picture of your build (so that people can see what the problem is) you should hold your finger over the air hole and suck (without firing). This should force some juice into the build chamber and wicks, that is unless the channels are being blocked. When you do the covered airhole suck you should see some air bubbles rise through your tank.

Once you have emptied the tank take some pictures of your build and post on here please.

There is a method for emptying the Kayfun, it is not great, but will save most of the juice.... You turn the kayfun upside down, putting the drip tip into the end of a juice bottle (the juice is going to come out of the drip tip). Whilst holding it upside down you unscrew the kayfun base, extract the base + chimney (leaving the drip tip & tank sections together still in the bottle).
Juice should then flow through the drip tip into the bottle. Some juice will remain in the drip tip, so make sure that you have some tissues ready (maybe wear gloves).

 

[cmangoboogie]

Cheers @doubleEwe I did that to empty it yesterday.

Update: the burnt taste seem to have gone away (this time) im thinking it could've been similar to a new kanger coil I use to get burnt taste first few drags. Just a thought? But seems to be tasting better..I will take a pic of build soon as i can. Think I could get a top shot now. ....but not completely apart without emptying it. Love to get this figuted out and get a nice build on the stillare dripper that pretty much gave up on. . Thanks ECF if wasn't for you guys and google bam lol

 

[cmangoboogie]

Looks nasty. I've never pulled out a kanger or nautilus bdc tho....is that what suppose to look like? Think somehow im burning the cotton hence getting same results damn near at least with kayfun or Stillare. Not inserting cotton correctly ? I do the test of pulling back in forth to test how snug per say not to snug not to loose ...

 

[cmangoboogie]

H hhmmm any help. Cheers thanks

 

[santoki]

are you priming your wicks with ejuice before you're firing them up?

 

[jaxgator]

2nd problem was if I did get them to fire after a few vapes it taste real burnt (the stillare dripper cotton actually started fire? )

One shouldn't ever get a dry hit with a dripper. The only two things that I can think of that would cause this are not enough juice or the wicks are too tight in the coil choking it. How much juice are you putting in your Stillare?

I have never received a dry hit in any of my drippers. Here's a shot from my latest Plume Veil build wicked with rayon...

Edited to say that here is that same build (coils & wick) after 6 days of vaping it exclusively...

 

[cmangoboogie]

One shouldn't ever get a dry hit with a dripper. The only two things that I can think of that would cause this are not enough juice or the wicks are too tight in the coil choking it. How much juice are you putting in your Stillare?

I have never received a dry hit in any of my drippers. Here's a shot from my latest Plume Veil build wicked with rayon...

Ill have to take a picture next time I try the Stillare build. I only wish mine looked thst pretty. I cant get the cotton to get nice and fluffy like that unless I do the test to check see how snug it is to just make it big and its snug but I thought that would lead to choking .....I wonder if i could possibly doing the opposite with to little cotton?

 

[DavidOck]

From your pic, I don't see any wick going through the coil, just on the outside?? (Might be the angle of the pic.)

I generally lay my coil about right angled to the screws, about 2 mm up from the air intake on the top of the base. And it does look like you at least need longer wicks - the pic shows almost none on the right side.

 

[cmangoboogie]

are you priming your wicks with ejuice before you're firing them up?

Yes .. Thank You.
Cheers .
Got the priming part down (I think) I just give about 5-6 drops to eaxh piece of cotton and test fire.

 

[Hoopie]

Are you threading the cotton through the hole in the coil? It appears to me that the coil is facing the screws with the cotton pushed between the coils. Here's an old build that needs new cotton but shows how I set mine up.

 

[cmangoboogie]

Are you threading the cotton through the hole in the coil? It appears to me that the coil is facing the screws with the cotton pushed between the coils. Here's an old build that needs new cotton but shows how I set mine up.
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Yes in the kayfun I set it up so the coil was over the top of the posts instead of in the middle like yours. I've never seen it set up like that. Watched a review/setup vid and it just said to make sure you leave coil room above the leads . Looking at it your way sure looks easier to wrap around the leads. Pain in .... idk why dont have I hooks like the stillare. .that made mucg easier to get a coil in, even tho had very little success with that for some reason cotton would literally flame up. I could feel the heat through the drip tip. Anyway one problem at a time ..
Should I swap out for a new coil between the posts?

 

[DoubleEwe]

It does sound like you should switch to a new coil.

One like in the pic Hoopie posted....

 

[DoubleEwe]

Personally I don't use anywhere near the amount of cotton that Jaxgator uses. Even on my Magma at 0.5ohms I use a lot less cotton and never get dry hits, that is even when vaping one hit after another until the wells are empty:



I don't use microcoils (as I am not sold on the theory of them being better - looks to me like they char the cotton). This wick and coil setup has been used for about 10-15ml of juice so far.

 

[cmangoboogie]

Looks so clean. .guess i just need practice to. Got to the bottom of the kayfun tank....think im going go give the stillare another shot. Ill post back pics. Mise well build both of them , hopefully successfully. Ha seems like one guy gets away with alot of cotton compared to almost nothimg like yours DoubleEwe is kinda how mine looked.

 

[Lurch]

I was having a similar problem with my first few Kayfun/Russian builds. I was using 28ga and getting a great coil, but, when I was installing the cotton I will pull it through and it would bunch up, just a little at the backside of the coil (if you are pulling from right to left through the coil the bunch would occur where the cotton entered on the left, hope that makes sense). This small amount of bunching was apparently created a blockage preventing that side from wicking properly. After a few minutes the cotton would burn through right at that spot.

I cut the amount of cotton I was using in half and try to make sure I do not let it bunch up.

Hope that helps.

 

[jaxgator]

Personally I don't use anywhere near the amount of cotton that Jaxgator uses.

It depends on the RDA for me. Here's my Magma build...

Wicked...

The Plume Veil has a very shallow deck where as the Magma has a very deep well.

 

[DoubleEwe]

Yeah, that looks a lot more like my kind of cotton (or Rayon).

I am not going to try to derail the thread, but I would be interested to see what the wick looks like under the coil (after use) on a microcoil build...

 

[jaxgator]

Yeah, that looks a lot more like my kind of cotton (or Rayon).

I am not going to try to derail the thread, but I would be interested to see what the wick looks like under the coil (after use) on a microcoil build...

Keep your eyes open over in the Rebuildable Atomizer Systems sub-forum. I have build threads on each of these. Trying to see how long I will get out of these rayon wicks and will post images of the used rayon once I rewick them. It's a sub-forum under Assorted PV Topics.

Now, back to your regularly scheduled program.