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[moog]

Concerning the gold caps...I bought them but don't use them as it makes it far too heavy when using the GGT in giant mode(for me).....The adapters that Imeo makes Grimm are brilliant and very different from the other ones I have....

 

[grimmer255]

i dont want to start anything I respect Imeo very much. I dont want this to get out of control just asking thats all.....I dont want a huge crazy thing here just a simple answer..Again I respect Imeo and will get GGT no question on that. I can see 20usd for adapters not 50usd. I can see 35usd for gold caps....not 50usd. the GGT is a great device that will last a long time no question on that so i think 155USD is worth a GGT.

 

[imeothanasis]

I dont want to start anything so I will ask you and please answer honestly. Do the adapters (one piece of brass) really value as much as an entire ecig kit. When the SB offers the same thing you do for only $13.00USD per adapter. I could buy two SB adapters and 2 atties for the same price as one of your adapters. You really need to bring down the prices because you might get some business here in the US but it will be short lived. If you want to stay in the competition your going to need to bring down the cost for all your accessories. If i didnt care i wouldnt say a damn thing. I want a GGT I promised Iken. so please get some of those GOld caps together and send them with the GGT's and get those prices down there killing us...you could have a lot more business if you simply lower your price and n the long run you will make more and have more loyal customers.

You will not start anything exept I want too grimmer so dont worry at all my friend.

I have never lie to anyone so "please answer honestly" is a rule for me xa xa.

Brass costs nothing, maybe 20 cents, so its not the adapter. Its that the adapter will never die so for an immortal adapter 25 euros are so so little amount. Think of it my friend and you will see that I am very right.

If you want an adapter like the "others" I can charge it 10 dollars, maybe less but its not the point. I dont make things that broke. I like the way I work and I cant make less than I can do. Its not my style. I will keep making the best e-cigs for you and other people that want the best in the best value. And GG is VERY cheap for what it is. When you will buy another cig? Maybe never. You buy GG because it is reliable and immortal and you buy other cigs to play and throw them after some time.

GG is made in europe and its handmaded , not in china and to a factory. so my cost is big. If I lower the price then it will be the same to my cost so no reason to make anything. I have said before that GG costs me 75 euros. You know why? Because it has huge work on it. If you try to see carefully the lost space in it you will see no lost space. If you move something in GG 1mm then it will not work at all. So the work to make 6 little brass things in hand with accuracy and 8 threads with accuracy too and 3 cubes and 2 caps is really very huge.

I understand that you cant see the work on GG because it looks so simple but you are not a mechanic to understand. Do you know for example that if the button's inside thread get screwed by 0,5mm the lock option will not work? Do you know how many buttons I make just to use only some of them?

I dont throw some wires and solder to make a mess all over the place inside the GG. You dont have a GG to understand. But if you want to see what I mean, see what other people do after GG. The same cig with mine. Why they charge small amount? because they have not my skills and they send them to a factory so they can make them cheaper.

Sorry Grimmer for the big post but it was nesesarry to understand my price.

 

[Lisaf01]

Thanks for the very fair and comprehensive explanation, Imeo.
These things aren't cheap but as always, I think you get what you pay for.....
Maybe you should wait Grimmer, until you can get the trans supplied only with the gold caps instead of the silver ones?

 

[grimmer255]

no I promised Iken i will get it first round and i will. Its all good. I really care about all this. I just want to see Iken be able to compete. Because the GG is a great product there is no doubt about that. So I will get it and if I have to wait for the gold caps so be it. I waited a long long long long time to get this...Im going to erase what I said before because I dont want this to get out of hand...

 

[imeothanasis]

Thanks Lisa for your post, I will now post my cost to show to all people what is going on. I donr have secrets from anyone (exept how I make the GGs)

My GG cost.

15 euros for the first tube.
15 euro for each of the rest 2 tubes = 30
about 3 euros for each of the 6 little parts in it = 18
6 euros paypal fee
3 euros shipping cost to seller
5 euros engraving

77 euros

I earn nothing for my thoughts and for my time to lathe and for my time for going to laser and to the factory. So I earn 20 euros for my effords to assemple them with caution and 25 is Iken's profit. For so small quantities that I make I dont earn almost nothing, I just do my hobby.



ps.... each GG wants about 30 min to get assembled. Ask other suppliers's profit and ask them about their effords. Also ask them about the quality of their product. No one believes that his cig is immortal.


ps2....... I forgot the gold caps. Front cap costs me 5 euros and back cap costs me 10 euros. If I put there the paypal fee, the shipping cost and Iken's profit (He will sell them 25 euros) then what is my profit? Nothing again.

About adapters

Each adapter has 3 diferent threads and one little piece inside so the cost is huge. I pay 15 euros for each one little piece. Same rules as gold caps applies here, so I earn nothing again.

ps4....... thats my price for at least 20 pieces per time and because my friend knows me. If someone else go there asking for 1 piece only, the cost will be at 300 euros. (and we are not a cheap country guys)

 

[Stormynights]

There is nothing about my GGs that is cheap. I believe they will last me the rest of my life without any maintenance. This seems to me to be a very good value.

 

[grimmer255]

i cant wait....this will be my last ecig buy except for the slim...i want the slim for driving or out and about.

 

[imeothanasis]

guys, thanks that you understand what you bought and for seeing my cost. I really cant do less than I have already done. I just cant make something worse than the best, its not my nature, I just cant really and I dont want to. I still believe that GG's cost is very very small.

See what all people have already pay from the time they start vaping and you will see what I mean. Also look your cost for this new hobby and you will change your mind immediately.

Thanks again for the understanding to my effords

 

[Lisaf01]

All you can do is to carry on doing your best. No-one can ask more.
There's plenty of devices of varying qualities and prices. People will choose what they want. This is as it should be.

Edited to add:
I haven't felt the need to purchase any other high end devices because the different model GGs provide all the functionality that I want, in a way that I am happy with, and a price that I believe represents fairly good value for the quality of the item.

 

[imeothanasis]

All you can do is to carry on doing your best. No-one can ask more.
There's plenty of devices of varying qualities and prices. People will choose what they want. This is as it should be.

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