My post wasn't directed at you. My post is directed at the people that believe everything that they read and don't understand the "scientific Method."
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Repeating multiple times unconfirmed statement does not make that statement confirmed.
Probably others already said this, but why take the risk? On the other hand, i think the general pollution like cars and what company's put out in the air is far more toxic then the vapor we blow out. (unconfirmed, just my hypothesis)
also if your kid gets "addicted" by the second hand nicotine you blow out.. then your kid will cry without knowing the reason and neither will you.. which makes your life a bit harder.
But these are all wild guesses from my side.
also if your kid gets "addicted" by the second hand nicotine you blow out.. then your kid will cry without knowing the reason and neither will you.. which makes your life a bit harder.
But these are all wild guesses from my side.
Someone already addressed who did the study.
Actually, there will be no study that is truly 100% unbiased. Someone wants the information and someone will pay to have the study done. Fact of life, on both sides of the issue. Although, when you look at studies done by the anti crowd, you can see where they do not understand the product that they are studying. For example, in order to get the results they want, they have abused an ecig to the point where no vaper would ever take it, in order to get the 'proof' that they are looking for. In other words, they ran an ecig dry, past the point of a dry hit, in order to get the toxins they are looking for.
Now, no vaper would ever continue vaping a dry wick. The taste of just one little dry hit is enough for us to make sure we don't do that again!
And further, that would mean you don't trust any studies.....at all. Maybe, just maybe, you may have to trust what your doctor concludes about your personal health. But then again, some doctors are bought and paid for by the pharmaceutical companies.
LOL poor thing, yes you are, sweetie!
We do get passionate about certain subjects
And on the above note: Try to keep things civil in here.... K? Thanks!!
And for the record: I vape with my grandchildren in my house, in my car and in their houses. They range from age 16 all the way down to 2. I do not fear that they will be harmed.
The myth of secondhand smoke has been brought to light years ago. It just doesn't fall into the media's attention as we know who pays their bills with advertising. And yeah, they (the anti's) tried for a minute to start a campaign on third hand smoke. <insert bigger eyeroll here> Not sure if they are still trying to push that one, I think some still are but it isn't gaining traction......yet.
The myth of secondhand smoke has been brought to light years ago. It just doesn't fall into the media's attention as we know who pays their bills with advertising.
And yeah, they (the anti's) tried for a minute to start a campaign on third hand smoke. <insert bigger eyeroll here> Not sure if they are still trying to push that one, I think some still are but it isn't gaining traction......yet.
when the water in the mix vaporizes it atomizes thje pg/vg base into a fine mist. Pg/vg are heavier than water so there is more water in the in the vapor than anything.
And for the record: I vape with my grandchildren in my house, in my car and in their houses. They range from age 16 all the way down to 2. I do not fear that they will be harmed.
The myth of secondhand smoke has been brought to light years ago. It just doesn't fall into the media's attention as we know who pays their bills with advertising.
Does third hand smoke involve sex? When does it end?
I believe he is speaking about distilled water which some juice companies add.
I stand corrected on the "exhale water vapor" comment. Temporary lapse.
I went to the pediatrician with my daughter-in-law for the grands last check up. I have always considered him to be very conservative, maybe a little too conservative, in his practice. Anyway we were discussing peanut allergies and anti-bacterial products among a few other controversial topics and he brought up the second hand smoke junk science. FYI, He doesn't smoke and never has. I was very surprised to hear it coming from him.
I'm just glad we're all vaping rather than smoking. Do what you think is best for your children and grand children. Not many things in this world, if any, are 100% safe.
I went to the pediatrician with my daughter-in-law for the grands last check up. I have always considered him to be very conservative, maybe a little too conservative, in his practice. Anyway we were discussing peanut allergies and anti-bacterial products among a few other controversial topics and he brought up the second hand smoke junk science. FYI, He doesn't smoke and never has. I was very surprised to hear it coming from him.
I'm just glad we're all vaping rather than smoking. Do what you think is best for your children and grand children. Not many things in this world, if any, are 100% safe.
I don't have kids myself, but personally I'd be a lot more concerned with making sure my e-juice and mods were kept out of reach of the young ones.
I was just watching Plumes of Hazard and they mentioned a recent case in the news where a couple took their young child to visit a friend who vaped. The vaper had left a bottle of 100 mg/ml nicotine out on a low table, with the lid off. The child of the visiting parents found it, drank it, and died. A tragedy made all the more horrifying because it could have so easily been prevented.
Be safe, everyone.
I was just watching Plumes of Hazard and they mentioned a recent case in the news where a couple took their young child to visit a friend who vaped. The vaper had left a bottle of 100 mg/ml nicotine out on a low table, with the lid off. The child of the visiting parents found it, drank it, and died. A tragedy made all the more horrifying because it could have so easily been prevented.
Be safe, everyone.
We do get passionate about certain subjects
And on the above note: Try to keep things civil in here.... K? Thanks!!
NONONONO We do NOT get passionate about... ummm never mind
Tying into a different thread where many people have said that they would rather their kids vape than smoke. So for all of those who say that vapor is no different from the air that we breathe, why would you not want to see a 5 year old vaping 0 mg nicotine? Since there is no nicotine, isn't the vapor the same as the air they are already breathing in? And what if a kid wants to vape, but has no intention of smoking cigarettes. Is it ok? If vaping is so safe, then why restrict its sales and use to adults?
My kids are older (the youngest is 17 and the oldest is 20). When I was still smoking, I never smoked inside the house. When outside and I lit up, I always maintained a distance between me and them and made sure that I was downwind of them. While I will vape in the house now, I still won't vape if I am in the same room with them, and I also make sure that my clouds don't drift towards them. They much prefer me vaping since my car doesn't smell like smoke any more and smells like fruit instead, but I also don't subject them to it if I don't have to. Now if my kids approached me and said that they wanted to take up vaping, I wouldn't have an issue with it. After all, I'm going to treat them like adults and they can make up their own minds. Luckily, they really have no desire to.
My kids are older (the youngest is 17 and the oldest is 20). When I was still smoking, I never smoked inside the house. When outside and I lit up, I always maintained a distance between me and them and made sure that I was downwind of them. While I will vape in the house now, I still won't vape if I am in the same room with them, and I also make sure that my clouds don't drift towards them. They much prefer me vaping since my car doesn't smell like smoke any more and smells like fruit instead, but I also don't subject them to it if I don't have to. Now if my kids approached me and said that they wanted to take up vaping, I wouldn't have an issue with it. After all, I'm going to treat them like adults and they can make up their own minds. Luckily, they really have no desire to.
As is often the case on the internet, I think you misread the tone of my post. I wasn't pointing any fingers or trying to run down vaping in any way. Just illustrating my point that our gear and juice is a lot more dangerous than the vapor itself. And to answer your rhetorical question, no, I don't think it would have been more tragic depending on the substance. Loss of life = maximum tragedy. I said it was more horrifying because it could have so easily been prevented. At least three adults present and no one had the sense to take five seconds and look around for things that might cause harm to the child, and put a cap on it.
Agree - I didn't smoke in the house or around my kids unless they were hovering upwind of me out doors. I follow the same protocol with vapor. Nothing changed, except things smell better. My daughter even commented that now that she's not around smoke all the time, it really does smell bad when someone lights one, instead of "it just smells normal".
Just because I choose not to quit altogether does not mean I need to subject everyone else to it, even if it is much less harmful than smoking.
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