3 months of ecigs... coming to an end

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Green Mtn Vpr

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I appreciate the replies.



I can't sit here and make posts....


I thought I made it clear when I said I was quitting. Quitting is quitting.... (additional BS omitted

-Dario

Dario: Seems you found the time to post plenty after all and Why would you want to trade for juice if you have quit? Maybe I DO need "quitting" explained to me...

Forum Members: Lets all stop feeding the attention seekers and give our time and assistance to those that are above board and looking for actual help and input... and who would appreciate it!!
 
Dario: Seems you found the time to post plenty after all and Why would you want to trade for juice if you have quit? Maybe I DO need "quitting" explained to me...

Forum Members: Lets all stop feeding the attention seekers and give our time and assistance to those that are above board and looking for actual help and input... and who would appreciate it!!

Bartering or trading is something I'm used to. This time I have is due to a transition phase before we return to the islands. As for the rest of your conceited comment I'll just assume you're on a soap box complaining how you don't get enough attention and anyone who does has no appreciation for it.

Just so you know I've read every post at least twice.
 

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Dario, if you post what you've got to trade in the Classified/Swap section, you might have more luck swapping it. You've got enough posts now ;) Looks like nice lab grade gear; wouldn't be surprised if you could swap it pretty easy.

Interesting info about snus. I'd never heard much about it; I'd just assumed it was as dangerous as dipping/chew... huh.
 
Riva 901 cone fits over cartos and is much shorter and will screw on the Riva 510, leaving plenty of carto sticking out for vaping. Liberty-Flights.com has Riva 901 cones. I bought one of the cones and and I tried it over Boge cartos on my Riva 510.

L-F runs out of the Riva carto kits when they run out of Boge cartos which are the most popular cartos for 510 threaded devices. Lots of places sell Boge cartos..

Ignore the long Riva cone and drip tip on the left...
Here's a Riva 901 cone (short) with a BOGE cart and X2 Dual Coil Clear Cartomizer
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Here's the Riva 901 cone on the BOGE...
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Here's the Riva 901 cone on the X2...
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The long cone on the left has been spread to fit the X2.

I said earlier that LF does not have certain carto kits and is not getting any anytime soon. I can forward you the email from "Ty" if you wish. I recently checked and many still have a "0" for inventory.

-Dario
 

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Hello all! Thank you all for getting me educated on e-cigs and off of analogs (over 2 months now)! I'm pretty shy and self-conscience about posting (first time on any forum). I wanted to chime in and encourage Dario to stick with it. Dario, you seem to still want to try to make vaping work, but the cost has you frustrated. I get that and really don't want it to stop you from being successful. I have several nicotine juice flavors (a few tobacco) that I'd like to put in sample bottles and share with you. At least you won't have to spend much more if you find a sample you like before buying a large bottle. I also have about a 3/4 full 30 ml bottle of Marbelo that I no longer use. Never having posted before, I haven't yet earned the privilege to PM or even know how it works. If you would like me to send you a little package of liquids, you may be able to PM me? If anyone can help tell us how to go about this, please do. By the way, Dario, make nice with the other members, even though you were frustrated, you may want to acknowledge that you could have been a bit more respectful to everyone. You and I wouldn't have joined up and read over so many posts if the people here were not helpful and kind (not to be preachy, but...just sayin). I'd post a nice wink and thumbs up to you, you have been through so much and are still hanging on like a bulldog. I'll ask my husband how to post smileys and such, you deserve one!
 
Hello all! Thank you all for getting me educated on e-cigs and off of analogs (over 2 months now)! I'm pretty shy and self-conscience about posting (first time on any forum). I wanted to chime in and encourage Dario to stick with it. Dario, you seem to still want to try to make vaping work, but the cost has you frustrated. I get that and really don't want it to stop you from being successful. I have several nicotine juice flavors (a few tobacco) that I'd like to put in sample bottles and share with you. At least you won't have to spend much more if you find a sample you like before buying a large bottle. I also have about a 3/4 full 30 ml bottle of Marbelo that I no longer use. Never having posted before, I haven't yet earned the privilege to PM or even know how it works. If you would like me to send you a little package of liquids, you may be able to PM me? If anyone can help tell us how to go about this, please do. By the way, Dario, make nice with the other members, even though you were frustrated, you may want to acknowledge that you could have been a bit more respectful to everyone. You and I wouldn't have joined up and read over so many posts if the people here were not helpful and kind (not to be preachy, but...just sayin). I'd post a nice wink and thumbs up to you, you have been through so much and are still hanging on like a bulldog. I'll ask my husband how to post smileys and such, you deserve one!

Thank you. I do want it to work but the frustration and costs seems to exceed the worth. I had no idea it would be trial and error until I started swimming in it. Now, with missed shipments and running out of ejuice, costly juices that are better than what I've had but still not that great, costly parts and maintenance, new orders I just made and received in the mail an hour ago is a chrome ejoy 1000mAh but I ordered stainless.... the list is extensive. Its like wading through a field of junk and the only option is to find something that works by piecing it together from scraps you find. Only these scraps cost money.

My social skills are actually getting better since I left Capitol Hill. 20 years of dealing with high brass personnel and politicians will ruin anyone. I know I come off strong and I thought I toned it down in the first post. Guess I was wrong. I do apologize if it offended anyone because I don't like to do that. It's not my intent.

Thanks for the offer of free samples but I will need to pass. I really am quitting this at he end of my ejuice supply. Earlier I offered to trade some 100mL graduated cylinders for a 30mL tobacco flavor. That's for my Uncle who I just purchased a kit for. The one that's chrome instead of stainless.
 

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If the CASAA postion is to tell the US people that dipping tobacco like Copenhagen is a much safer alternative to smoking tobacco then I would have a hard time giving them any creditability at all. Is this suppose to be one of the largest Associations that are fighting for Vapors rights? Somewhere along the line not sure when, but somebody forced the smokeless tobacco companies to put "this is not a safe alternative to smoking" on every single can of smokeless tobacco.

Sorry, while I consider myself a pro tobacco person and smokers and users of all tobacco products have the right to do what they want to their own bodies. Nobody will ever convince me that smokeless tobacco like Copenhagen and Skoal(not SNUS)is a safer alternative to smoking tobacco.

Anyway that's just my opinion.

Long-term epidemiological studies have shown that use of smokeless tobacco is 98-99% less hazardous than smoking. Please read Bill Godshall and Dr. Brad Rodu's paper on the subject -- http://www.casaa.org/files/THR.pdf

Diablo, somewhere along the way in the future, e-cigarette companies may be forced to put a "This is not a safe alternative to smoking" warning on its products. Just because the federal government legislates a requirement does not mean that the claims they make have validity. No tobacco product is a SAFE alternative to smoking. Safer? There is no evidence other than pure conjecture to support a claim that smokeless tobacco, including chewing tobacco, is safer than smoking.
 
I'm also new I did a lot of research before buying my first pv. I looked at the blu first and what started me on the quest to find an alternative to smoking. I'm thankful I did my homework before I purchased and found something right for myself and lifestyle. Although I can understand your frustration the goal is be healthier don't give up completely I see some great suggestions for equipment you have already take it.
 

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I'm a newbie myself, but I've read a lot of stuff on here and other sites.

I use a 510-T. I HIGHLY recommend it. It's soooooo much easier to use than all this other stuff I've been reading about.

I figure vaping is going to cost me about $1-2 per day using the 510-T. It's the newest thing out there... and a lot of the problems you mentioned have been fixed with the 510-T.
 

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Long-term epidemiological studies have shown that use of smokeless tobacco is 98-99% less hazardous than smoking. Please read Bill Godshall and Dr. Brad Rodu's paper on the subject -- http://www.casaa.org/files/THR.pdf

Diablo, somewhere along the way in the future, e-cigarette companies may be forced to put a "This is not a safe alternative to smoking" warning on its products. Just because the federal government legislates a requirement does not mean that the claims they make have validity. No tobacco product is a SAFE alternative to smoking. Safer? There is no evidence other than pure conjecture to support a claim that smokeless tobacco, including chewing tobacco, is safer than smoking.

TBH, speaking purely from a scientific standpoint, there is not much more than conjecture to support the contention that vaping is any better for you. Many people, myself included, have found that e-liquid comes with a much greater risk of large nicotine doses being ingested rapidly than most forms of tobacco. The result is tachycardia and hypertension. High blood pressure is known to cause significant damage if maintained for extended periods. So claims that vaping is better for you really need to be investigated in extensive clinical studies.
 

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RTLDR (Rationalization Too Long Didn't Read) (and pro-chew vs vaping is complete B.S.)

You have to want to quit. Really want to. And you must work at it. Chew (and even snuff & standard snuss) is not recommended IMHO. Some people feel they still "need" it. They know who they are.

Comparing the relative safety of smoking vs chew/snus is like arguing that playing Russian Roulette with only one bullet is MUCH better than playing with two bullets. The answer, of course, is not to play.

The history of oral (and other) cancers and dental issues with smokeless tobacco is well proven. Look....kids reading this in particular (yes, they use the internet too, duh), you'll see posts like:

Long-term epidemiological studies have shown that use of smokeless tobacco is 98-99% less hazardous than smoking.

Highly debatable. Stay away from it if at all possible. And remember that these discussions are mostly from people already addicted to tobacco trying to find less harmful alternatives.

Oh, and stay off the stupid pot too. 1 joint has enough tars to... IDK real numbers... equal a pack of smokes. And it isn't harmless.

2 cents.
 
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Yeah StormFinch, but Sweedish snus is not the same as snus in general...... and it still increases pancreatic cancer risk, so best to avoid it if possible. Those that really need tobacco alkaloids and such know who they are.

I agree that we need more testing with vaping, but I'd go with vaping any day over tobacco.... just based on extrapolation from other info. It's not a "complete guess".

Oh, and for me.... when I say I'm "tobacco free" I want to mean it. Unfortunately, I can't say "nicotine free". I don't use TA flavorings (that I know of) either.
 
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