3 months of ecigs... coming to an end

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rbuck9

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you have had a rough go of it,i made the mistake when i started a purchased a little 510 mini cig
and paid way to much for it.battery wasnt worth a dime,tasted horrible but it was enough
to let me know i could get my nicotine. so i started doing some digging wound up on youtube,
to only find myself laughing my .... off at some of the bs but there was good info there aswell.
read the forums, and with everything you read or watch take it with a grain of salt.
find something that intrest you then hit google look it up search for problems bad reviews
finding good tobacco flavor thats another story.fruit and candy ones some are dead on ringers
but i would def get some pg and vg to cut some of those bad flavors down to a usable state
find a flavor you can deal with,then grab some samples of higer rated ones.
or look into diy liquid but remeber after 3 months off of analogs your tastebuds change
 

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More than 64% of respondents wants to use e-cig like a safer alternative to a conventional smoking according to CAASA/ECF poll (check the "Poll" section of this forum). But the problem is there is absolutely no e-cig devices designed for this purpose. E-cig is more like a smoke cessation device but not an alternative to an analog cigarette. Another words e-cig might help to quit smoking but it's not a substitute for the smoking habit/experience.
 

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More than 64% of respondents wants to use e-cig like a safer alternative to a conventional smoking according to CAASA/ECF poll (check the "Poll" section of this forum). But the problem is there is absolutely no e-cig devices designed for this purpose. E-cig is more like a smoke cessation device but not an alternative to an analog cigarette. Another words e-cig might help to quit smoking but it's not a substitute for the smoking habit/experience.

That's a very strange thing to say. My e-cig is certainly an alternative to smoking. A much better alternative. That's how it was advertised to me and that's why I bought it. In fact, it's better than smoking, and most vapers would agree, so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
 

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Sorry you feel that way. I never compared apples to oranges or involved analogs. I don't have issues here. I made an observation and called out what I see. Thanks for the reply, Senior Member Iffy.

Then what I suggest are GLASSES.
Look around. Ecigs have worked for THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of people. Ever stop to think that maybe the problem isn't the ecigs OR the forum- it might be...... you?!

Maybe save yourself another sob story and start thinking about how you've stopped DIPPING?
Also, how hard is it to CHARGE YOUR BATTERIES WHEN YOU"RE ASLEEP?
You're telling me that you vape SO MUCH that out of all the batteries you have, NONE of them are enough power for you?

You're complaining about tobacco flavors not tasting NASTY ENOUGH TO BE LIKE REAL SMOKE FOR YOU?
I don't think I've ever met such a griper in my life. Count your blessings and save us your miserable rantings....
 
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Nicko

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More than 64% of respondents wants to use e-cig like a safer alternative to a conventional smoking according to CAASA/ECF poll (check the "Poll" section of this forum). But the problem is there is absolutely no e-cig devices designed for this purpose. E-cig is more like a smoke cessation device but not an alternative to an analog cigarette. Another words e-cig might help to quit smoking but it's not a substitute for the smoking habit/experience.

Another question; can you imagine a BETTER alternative to smoking analogs than e-cigs? I mean a product that kind of felt like smoking a real cigarette and gave you the same kind of feeling as actually smoking as well as the nicotine satisfaction? Somehow I think e-cigs have done it. And all e-cig distributors are well aware that they can't legally state that their products are safe or are a smoking cessation device. That's why they don't say any such thing.
 

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More than 64% of respondents wants to use e-cig like a safer alternative to a conventional smoking according to CAASA/ECF poll (check the "Poll" section of this forum). But the problem is there is absolutely no e-cig devices designed for this purpose. E-cig is more like a smoke cessation device but not an alternative to an analog cigarette. Another words e-cig might help to quit smoking but it's not a substitute for the smoking habit/experience.

I am living proof that your statement is false. From the moment I put the PV to my lips I've used it in place of cigs and have never looked back.
 

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More than 64% of respondents wants to use e-cig like a safer alternative to a conventional smoking according to CAASA/ECF poll (check the "Poll" section of this forum). But the problem is there is absolutely no e-cig devices designed for this purpose. E-cig is more like a smoke cessation device but not an alternative to an analog cigarette. Another words e-cig might help to quit smoking but it's not a substitute for the smoking habit/experience.

This doesn't make any sense. I don't even know how to begin comprehending what you're extrapolating from this poll you're citing.
 

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You're addicted to nicotine like most of us here and your frustration is clouding your judgement. Keep sharing here. You can get through this. It's been a tough row to hoe for you. I ran into challenges early on. My solution was reading the 'ask the veterans' forum. It's clear, precise and rich with the answers you need. PM sent.
 

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Dr. Rodu's written extensively about the dishonest 'science' that has gone into interpreting the data about the male construction workers -- Tobacco Truth: The Revolving-Door Cohort at the Karolinska Institute

AttyPops, God bless you, but by "not recommending" snus use because it presents slightly elevated risks for certain rare cancers, you're denigrating a product that has led Sweden to have the lowest smoking rate in the EU.
 

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AttyPops, God bless you, but by "not recommending" snus use because it presents slightly elevated risks for certain rare cancers, you're denigrating a product that has led Sweden to have the lowest smoking rate in the EU.

Rather, I say avoid it if you can, use it if you must. In other words... I think e-cigs are better than even Swedish snus. That's all. I know it's a crap shoot... but hey... no cancer risk found for e-cigs yet. What I don't want to do is say that "I guarantee Swedish snus is not harmful". Which seems almost implied.

Low smoking rate probably equals lower cancer rate too. However, it isn't a rate of zero... so ..... I don't recommend tobacco use. One could imagine a country where smoking didn't exist... but chew, standard snus, any other form of tobacco did exist. Lower cancer rates. But tobacco still leads to some increased rate of avoidable cancers, even in that fictitious country. Swedish snus may be the lone exception, but I sure don't want to bet the farm on that one (and I'm not sure I believe that it is that safe).

Just IMHO. Tobacco is good for something..... nicotine extraction!!!

I'll take the blessings tho. :)
 
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Dr. Rodu's written extensively about the dishonest 'science' that has gone into interpreting the data about the male construction workers -- Tobacco Truth: The Revolving-Door Cohort at the Karolinska Institute

AttyPops, God bless you, but by "not recommending" snus use because it presents slightly elevated risks for certain rare cancers, you're denigrating a product that has led Sweden to have the lowest smoking rate in the EU.

Thanks for that Placebo. This one even better; Tobacco Truth: New Study: Smokeless Tobacco is NOT Associated with Pancreatic Cancer, and then there's this; Tobacco Truth: Three Decades of Smokeless Tobacco Misinformation I like Rodu, he seems to be quite the voice of reason in an insane tobacco control world.

Atty, I hear what you're saying and don't argue with the fact that it pays to be careful. But, we live in a world where the cancer rates are rising while the "devil" tobacco use rates are falling, Scientists cherry pick their numbers, and the same lies and half truths told about e-cigs are used with practically everything else that our health and product safety organizations have a 'replacement' or a 'cure' for. The absolute safest situation we could be in is to live in a world with no vehicles, no production and growing our own food and tobacco products without pesticides, hormones or processing. Somehow I don't see that happening however, so my own plan is to continue enjoy myself, within limits, until I drop dead from whatever does happen to kill me. :)
 

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Hi Dario, I went through the same exact thing. I started with a mini 901 kit....... The batteries were not even manual back then and I had nothing but problems. I continued to smoke while using the 901 because it was not reliable at all. I would always have battery problems.

At the time one of the only available battery mods on the market was the Screwdriver (I know alot will booo and hiss) and it was very expensive. I decided I wanted to dedicate myself to quitting for my Wife and kids and my health. I plunked down the $150.00 for the mod(ouch). That was the beginning of the end of smoking for me. It gave a more consistent hit of vapor than what I had, and on top of that the batteries lasted almost all day. I found that once I had it, the urge to go outside and smoke dwindled without any effort. I was still using carts back then and primarily vaped DK RY4(back when the formula was awesome).

At first I had the same attitude about my vape needing to taste like a cigarette, but then I realized why do I need my juices to taste like 455holes. :p So I tried some of the sweet flavors, but none of them really hit the spot for me (all DK based flavors).
I tried some juice mixing myself and failed pretty bad, so RY4 was my go to.

Then came the day when my Screwdriver had a switch start to get worn and would not fire properly.........
E-mailed Trogg and the sent me instructions with pictures for how to replace it. I replaced the switch and all was good, until it happened again down the road. At that point I decided that the switch replacement was an annoying task. Then comes along Whatever, he posted a custom mod in the modders section of the forum offering up an unnamed mod that has since become the adaptever. I ordered one since it was easily user replaceable. I was happy with it, but one thing about the small 3.7v devices was that I had to use really long draws and my jaw was not really used to it. My jaw would get sore and I would have to stop vaping to give my jaw a rest. I am a mouth inhaler and don't vape direct to the lungs.

Enter the Silver Bullet: I was reading about all the mods that were becoming available that used a higher mah 18650 battery and from what I gathered I would get 2 days of battery life out of this mod @ 3.7 and as a bonus I could try 6 volt vaping too.
So, I bought the Silver bullet and liked it alot, but it had the same issue for me @ 3.7(sore jaw) So I go online and purchase some 3.0v cr123a batts. It turns out that it's not safe at all to use 2 unprotected Lithium-Ion batteries stacked in this mod.
I actually saw 2 post's on forums of users having them explode in their faces because when the batteries failed they could not vent properly. So off I go to do more battery research. I found that Lifepo4 batts have a safer chemistry and SHOULD be suitable for 6v vaping, so I buy 6 of the Tenergy Yellow batteries and have not had any problems. The thing I loved about the mod is that it had a native 510 connection so I did not have to use adapters anymore in my Screwdriver and made my #1 go to the Silver Bullet. At 6v I was in heaven, so I thought.

The problem I was having now was that the atty would run way to hot for carts or direct dripping without a mouthpiece. I would actually take the blank mouthpiece and take off some of the plastic off the side the enters the atomizer to use for dripping. This solution was kinda ok, except that the mouth piece would get loose after alot of use and I would have to make another. I even tried some of the cart mods out there, but none of them really solved my problems.

Enter Super-T: I was hearing blurbs around the net about Super-T's drip tips made of stainless steel. I go on the site and find that they are perfect for what I need, but they were like $18 or so apiece and I felt that was kinda steep. I order a contour shorty, but find that it is too short for the high temps of 6 volts. I order again, but this time I order the full length contour and regular one. Problem solved, I love the things to death and still have all 3.

One thing though about my goto e-liquid at the time RY4, one day I get a bottle and it tastes wrong. So I order 2 more, and again both taste wrong(Gah!!!). So on the hunt again I go for e-liquid...........
After some research I come up with a place called Tasty Vapor. USA made liquid, that is not Johnson Creek?!?!? with an affordable price? WTF? I was one of the unlucky people that paid a premium for Johnson creek liquid, just to have it go green.
Don't get me wrong, I did love the original Tennessee Cured (heard it has changed since) but the pricing was ridiculous and most likely still is. With that said, Tasty Vapor has been pretty good to me with the way they sell liquid and doublers. I buy one bottle of 48mg liquid and cut it with the double to extend it for a while. Most of the flavors they offer are sweet, but like I said earlier why should my liquid taste like 455?

I forgot to mention that I did try a 510 manual kit before I bought the silver bullet to try out the atty/batt and found the battery to be the weakness, but loved the atty.

All in all though, most of the information that helped me along my quest was found on this very forum and by various video reviewers including the guy you mention Igetcha69. I am able to produce vapor like he does using my various mods. I have been able to mask my iPhone screen when I puff a large cloud in front of it, and have had to wave it off. It may be due to the fact that I do like VG in my liquids as it give me that full lung feeling and produces much vapor, plus my inhale technique.

You are actually lucky you started only 3 months ago. You have a wide range of products to chose from, when I started the 901 auto batt kit was almost the only thing to get LOL.

Now I wait for my Pro-Vari to ship, I am hoping this helps me dial in each atomizer to it's sweet spot so each will perform at it's best. I know it's pricey, but I am willing to spend the money as I have saved a ton of cash. The last pack of smokes I bought cost $9.56(American Spirits). I would buy a carton every 2 weeks.

I only read the first page and did not read any of the developments since the first post, but thought you would like to see my experience. I always recommend the silver bullet and Ego style batts for new people that I know that want to quit. Most are afraid to spend the money, but the ones that have the SB package have quit. Although at work 2 guys bought Ego-T mods one has quit and the other I believe, just needs to learn how to use it he claims he smokes on weekends only.
 
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I didn't start out vaping because I wanted to quit smoking.Smoking was the bomb.I loved it.I was going to use vaping temporarily as a device to let me kind of smoke at times or in places where smoking was not permitted.
I knew with the first puff I wasn't going to smoke analogs again.Why?Because to me it's just like smoking but without all the cancer causing agents. I smoked 40 odd years.My first really good e-cig was a kr808. I then bought a couple of egos and rivas from Liberty Flights.I've tried lots of juices from different vendors and 2 of my very favorites are LF's cola and highway
I used to spend at least $160.00 a month on analogs. I can't really tell you how much I've spent vaping.I guess my point is everyone has a sweet spot.Some hit it right away and some are always searching for that right combination of juice and e cig.
I wish you luck and I hope you will give vaping a little longer.Your sweet spot is out there.Go find it.It really beats tobacco.
 

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I didn't start out vaping because I wanted to quit smoking.Smoking was the bomb.I loved it.I was going to use vaping temporarily as a device to let me kind of smoke at times or in places where smoking was not permitted.
I knew with the first puff I wasn't going to smoke analogs again.Why?Because to me it's just like smoking but without all the cancer causing agents. I smoked 40 odd years.My first really good e-cig was a kr808. I then bought a couple of egos and rivas from Liberty Flights.I've tried lots of juices from different vendors and 2 of my very favorites are LF's cola and highway
I used to spend at least $160.00 a month on analogs. I can't really tell you how much I've spent vaping.I guess my point is everyone has a sweet spot.Some hit it right away and some are always searching for that right combination of juice and e cig.
I wish you luck and I hope you will give vaping a little longer.Your sweet spot is out there.Go find it.It really beats tobacco.

I had an almost identical experience. 40+ years, bought a pv for all those places where I couldn't smoke. First hit, lightbulb goes off, "I can do this instead!". Smoked a few the first couple of weeks until I got 24mg juice, then it's been all good. I started with an eGo, and moved to the REO Mini.

It's not like I didn't have to use any willpower to not pick up a cigarette, but vaping is so much better. Once I found something that was easier to use than smoking, my REO, I feel fairly comfortable that I won't go back to smoking.
 

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I am almost right there along with Dario. I started vaping not too long ago and it has been a frustrating experince for me as well. I've considered giving up and going back to analogs also, but I feel like if I can just find the right taste/strength formula then I might be able to stick with it. Plus I have already put so much money into it that I don't want to give up. It can be super frustrating, though. I think I may have found my flavor and strength formula, so wish me luck. Dario, I feel your pain. I bought my first PV at Smoke Free, also in the mall, and it has actually been really good. Plus they have a lifetime guarantee on their batteries. I ordered a couple of KR808s as spares and have found those to work well also, but have not had a lot of luck with the cartomizers for them. One of the forum members recommended a vendor to me for cartos and I should be getting them today. Again, wish me luck!
 
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