3 post RDA, serial coils?

[EmeraldLeo1982]

I understand completely about the amp draw, and shorting, and the crap protection in use on ego style batteries. I'll be running no higher then 2.4amp and from everything I've been able to find, the Sailebao batteries like this are rated at 2.5 or 3 amps. And until I know it's safe i'll be pulse vaping at a lower voltage and not chaining long monster draws on it.

I'm a poor boy, not a dumb one =D

And I'd like to thank you for looking out for my well being

Here's the setup I'll be using for this until I can afford something nicer, like a mech mod with 15A rated IMR's and a nicer RDA/RBA.
Battery:
$17.93 EGO-VV 1100mAh Rechargeable Variable Voltage E-Cigarette Battery with 0.7" LCD - silver at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
RDA:
$5.55 V10 Detachable Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer - 1.1±0.1

So you think 2 of those lil 2mmish coils of mine would fit fairly easily inside the RDA?

 

[REOfanatic]

This is on the actual nimbus its more than 60 wraps of 30 awg kanthal total not that hard

 

[ZeroDisorder]

I like it. A lot. Could we get a side pic of that sexy thing?

 

[EmeraldLeo1982]

I like it. A lot. Could we get a side pic of that sexy thing?

Agreed! That is amazingly sexy omg drooll..makes me want to experiement with funky coil designs....I'm soooo gonna have to order more wire whenever I can afford it. 25feet isn't goin to last as long as I thought it would.

 

[EmeraldLeo1982]

Can't wait for honk kong to pull their head out of ............... and give me my stuff.

Also does anybody know anything about those items I ordered? there's no reviews or anything on the battery as it's relatively new to FT.

I'll probably bust it open once I get it to get the specifics off the battery and look that up. I'm really good with soldering if I break a wire or anything in the process and some glue will hold it all back together lol.

 

[caged]

Can you run a crazy 8 pattern and just use two posts?

 

[EmeraldLeo1982]

You mean 1 piece of wire with both ends plugged into the positive, and wrap the middle through the negative post? I suppose that would be one way to do it. would allow for quad 3/4 wrap coils and still use lowish ohms.

 

[caged]

No, I mean instead of making wraps that look like o around one wick, make wraps that look like 8 around two wicks through one positive and one negative post with a single cut of wire. I have no idea if it's possible, but it would essentially have the same results as running two separate o wraps in series.

 

[Statistic]

I understand completely about the amp draw, and shorting, and the crap protection in use on ego style batteries. I'll be running no higher then 2.4amp and from everything I've been able to find, the Sailebao batteries like this are rated at 2.5 or 3 amps. And until I know it's safe i'll be pulse vaping at a lower voltage and not chaining long monster draws on it.

I know I already mentioned the possibility of you ruining your battery so I'm sorry to be redundant but I REALLY don't want to read about you shorting your only battery and being without any vape gear until you can get it replaced. Long draws are not the issue. The eGo style batteries have a time out so you can only take something like a 10 second draw before it cuts off anyways. The issue I am hoping you don't run into is a short. If you have a short then it doesn't matter how long you press the button, you can fry these eGo batts in no time. I shorted a 1300mAh X6 battery one time trying to pulse oxidize a genny wick.. took all of about 1 second to fry the thing and it was done. If you don't have one already you should pick up a cheap multimeter so you can test, retest and retest again the resistance of your atty before even attaching it to your battery.

Again, not trying to be a party pooper.. I'd love to see you get into rebuilding and making coils that create mind blowing vapor but at the same time we all want everyone to be safe about it and don't want to see you end up vaporless and, if even temporarily, back on stinkies because you fried your one and only battery.

 

[REOfanatic]

Obviously don't use a 6 coil build but it isn't hard to fit a lot of wraps in a rba

 

[Statistic]

No, I mean instead of making wraps that look like o around one wick, make wraps that look like 8 around two wicks through one positive and one negative post with a single cut of wire. I have no idea if it's possible, but it would essentially have the same results as running two separate o wraps in series.

Yes this is possible. Some people call it an "Infinity coil" lol

I made a .8ohm dual, interlaced infinity coil on my Vision Eternity.. it wasn't pretty but it actually vaped pretty damn good!

 

[caged]

Yes this is possible. Some people call it an "Infinity coil" lol

I made a .8ohm dual, interlaced infinity coil on my Vision Eternity.. it wasn't pretty but it actually vaped pretty damn good!

Looks good to me. Would be interesting to try this in a dual coil capable RBA and get 4 large coils (two on each connection), though I guess you could go 4 on one connection....

 

[ClippinWings]

I mainly want dual coils for increased production as what I've been getting from 1.7ish ohms at 3.7ish volts isn't satisfying enough for TH/Vapor, but mainly for TH.

That's because This:

well I want 1.5-1.8 for safety reasons, and there's really no good reason to go any lower then that.

Is incorrect.

Though on an eGo you're limited.

You can get more vapor with more airflow... that could help.... but it will also cut your TH

 

[CloudZ]

First off, I don't know why you would buy a dual coil dripper and ribbon wire for an ego. I understand that you probably didn't know any better, but that is beside the point.

My recommendation is to run a single 1.8 ohm coil, ignore the second negative post, and cover one of the air holes if it has 2. Then save up your cig money for a cheap mech, battery and charger, or a little more for something like a Vamo kit from fasttech. Another option is to buy some 32 gauge kanthal a1 for a couple bucks on eBay, then the 1.8 ohm dual coil becomes easy.

Good luck.

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[EmeraldLeo1982]

I don't see how a 6v battery won't handle a dual coil? you guys keep telling me it's wrong but nobody is really specifying why.

I mean 1.8 ohms = 1.8ohms whether it's on 1 coil or split between 2 right? If I'm wrong please educate me.

So in my mind splitting the ohmage between 2 coils = double the surface area. Does it not work in reality like it would in theory?

 

[Statistic]

My point is don't fry your battery. Yes, the eGo will push electricity through two 3.6ohm coils just as well as it will push electricity through one 1.8ohm coil. With two coils that's twice the potential to short something somewhere and dip below the safety cutoff and unless I am mistaken the safety cutoffs on eGo batteries does not reset, it severs an internal connection to prevent the battery from self destructing and renders the battery useless.

Regarding performance I don't think two 3.6ohm coils is going to perform much better, if any better at all, than a single 1.8ohm. I think you'd be blown away at how much better the micros perform than, well, anything else. Wrap up a nice 1.8ohm micro and wick it with plain ole cotton.. it'll perform like a "traditional" ~1ohm coil would.

I've done the dual coil thing.. it's a novelty... imo. Not even remotely necessary to achieve an excellent vape.

I know you are happy with your ribbon wire and I can appreciate being on a budget. I REALLY think you are missing the boat on micro coiled round wire though. If you want to try it out but your budget won't allow for it send me a pm and I'll mail you some round wire and a 1/16" drill bit.. AND some sterile 100% cotton

 

[CloudZ]

I don't see how a 6v battery won't handle a dual coil? you guys keep telling me it's wrong but nobody is really specifying why.

I mean 1.8 ohms = 1.8ohms whether it's on 1 coil or split between 2 right? If I'm wrong please educate me.

So in my mind splitting the ohmage between 2 coils = double the surface area. Does it not work in reality like it would in theory?

My bad, didn't realize it is a 6v kgo type ego. The current limit on it may be 3 amps, which will allow you about 5.2v safely through a 1.8 ohm coil. That will end up being about 7.5 watts per coil and a pretty good vape. Still, round wire will probably work better for the application.

Usually vv egos only go up to 4.8v and have a 2.5 amp limit, which would be pretty anemic.

 

[EmeraldLeo1982]

Yeah I'm not sure about the exact amp limit as I can't find any reviews or anything on that specific battery, just the SLB or KGO brand ones but since it's a clone you never know. Like I said i'll have to crack it open once I get it and find out for sure.

Question thugh about the severing of the internal protection circuit, is it a physical circuit that melts? If so it could most likely be reconnected with some micro soldering. I can do that easy enough.