3 week vaper struggles. got questions.

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tsbman

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Have a joye kit with two 900maH batteries and have switched to lR cartos that measure 2.7 ohms on average. doesn't sound LR to me. I am getting these local. Where can I find true 2ohm or 1.5 ohm cartos?

My draws are typically 15 seconds long in order to get good TH and volume but my ego batteries start blinking at about 8 seconds and then shut off so I have to hit the button again to finish my hit. I am taking slow draws. I suspect I may want higher voltage.

I tend to chain vape fairly heavy in the evening once I am done working and I think the battery capacity is a little on the low side for me. Especially on the weekends. I will drain both batteries in a bout 8 hours forcing me to smoke an analog. Bought a 1000mAh usb ego-t battery to fill the gap. For now.

I was a 1 1/2 - 2 PAD smoker and now I am down to about 2 cigs a day to about 10 depending on my equipment reliability, i.e dead batteries, tasty juice to hit and cartos. I am on a budget so I can't just go pop for a mod right now and am giving myself time to really learn how to vape properly. Some times I am just crawling the walls and hit the real deal. This needs to stop.

So I am thinking of some WTA liquid from Aroma, but have had trouble with the checkout over there. Communicating with Jerry.

Also thinking of a vv mod. Looking at the buzz pro and infinity pro. What are the difference between them? Either of these will be a major investment, so that is down the road a little way.

Any tips or ideas from you is appreciated.

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buzz pro has 2 x 16340 batts and the infinity pro has one 10440. the buzz is wider, heavier, and the batts last a bit longer. good choices for a vv, but there a quite a few (choices out there).
the infinity pro is thinner profile, more like an ego, but much nicer and better.
they share the same internal electronics... you can get the ultimate vape (matching resistance (ohms) of the atty/carto with the voltage/watts) from any atty or carto resistance.

if you vape heavy you will appreciate the vv, or even a good 3.7 pv.
Your issue now is learning to match resistance to voltage.

You should try LR attys... from 1.5 ( a little dangerous on the ego batt) up to 2.0 Ohms. I'd try a 1.8 Ohms or so.
There are a ton of vendors of accesories where you can get good attys.
Like i said, if you get a good vv you can use any resistance and just match the voltage.
 

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I just want to say hi, and welcome back. I'm sorry you are having such trouble finding your sweet spot, but I'm sure the gurus around here will find a way to help you. I'm sure you're on the right track, even if it doesn't seem necessarily like it right now.

Right now, my best guess is that the power is too low for you. Power depends on both voltage and carto resistance. The eGo batteries, if I am not mistaken, put out a somewhat low voltage, not true 3.7 and if your cartos are indeed 2.7 ohm, then you definitely are at fairly low powers 4-point-something watts on the average. Whereas the "hassle free" sweet spot for a lot of people, that is LR 2.0 Ohm on a true 3.7 V device is 6.8 watt! And the typical 6V vaper gets 12+ watts of power. What I'm trying to say with the numbers, is that you don't have especially unreasonable needs, and it's perfectly expected for you to feel that way about your current vaping. And there is a lot of room to go up, and there's no need to feel desolate :)

So - get lower resistance cartos, and consider a quick and dirty plunge into VV or higher voltage.

These are places I bought cartos from and had a good experience:
http://www.crystalclearvaping.com/Cartomizers-510-only_c_7.html
http://www.madvapes.com/Cartomizers_c_209.html
http://www.vaporalley.com/store/26-cartomizers/37-510-cartomizers/59-boge-510-cartomizers
http://www.vaporgod.com/Cartomizers_c_7.html



Experienced people: what about a VV box mod from MadVapes? They are pretty cheap, would they be a good quick choice for the OP?
 
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nice job elf,
i don't know about the low end VV's... I've always figured that when you compare the $ spent on smoking, why not get a good PV.
Not knocking anything, but I've heard that some of the low end VV's get hot, and an "evercool" chip which is better and cooler does cost more, but worth looking into from those modders that sell them here; i think Krimson Kustom etc.
 

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So, I know you said no mods due to money, and I wholly appreciate that. I felt the same way. Then I found that madvapes has a $35 vv mod. I bought one about a month ago when I put analogs down (albeit, I've had 3 since). Total, I spent about $70 (2 cartons) on a mod, batteries (2 for the mod, 2 for backups), a charger, and a car adapter. I then went cheap on juice, and bought about a month's worth ($30, 1 carton). While I am a bit anxious to get some atty's and dessert juice, I am off cigs and the only want I have for them is more of nostalgia and cake-without-icing feeling for my beer.

Hope this helps

Edit -- Also, my mod never gets hot, and at $35 to replace, so what if it breaks? I'd scuff a nicer one quicker, and break it shortly after. 2 months at $35 vs 3 months at $200? that's 140 vs 400 over 6 months...
 

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congrats, its a pain to start vaping ,for me at least for lots of reasons, one way that tricked my mind to love it a lot was a mint flavor that was over powering.It was odd to turn to flavors quickly and have since turn back but for like 6 months the mint chip wowed my brain enough to give smokes a bye bye.In no way do my beliefs think it will work for all but a few "weird" flavors can really make the journey differnet and sucessfull.Imo buy a ton of samplers and get something that a reg cig can never give you.Kinda like a girl next door but without the guilt or want to ruin what you have.
 

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Before I got sidetracked, I was going to ask what mg of nicotine you were vaping. Just upping the nic might be enough to stop the craving and get you by until you can get another PV.........worth a try.

VapeLite has Boge single coil LR 2.0 and SR 3.0 for 5.00 for 5/pk on sale right now, regular price there is 5.99. Easy to deal with and customer service is super. They are a forum supplier.
 
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Experienced people: what about a VV box mod from MadVapes? They are pretty cheap, would they be a good quick choice for the OP?

I have one of their VV mods and really like it. For the money it works great (I use mine more than my LT). You do need to have a way of measuring the voltage with it though, and that can add extra cost. After awhile you learn where to set it for certain cartos since it has the little flat spot on the dial. I think it's the perfect introduction to VV vaping and deciding if it's something that a person wants.
 

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Based on what you stated you are looking for, I strongly agree with you to get a better PV. As mentioned earlier, ego's only put out 3.4 volts.

I would suggest you look at a 5 volt or variable volt/watt model. You will definitely get warmer vapor and better throat hit once you start vaping between 4.5 - 5.0 volts which is considered the sweet spot by many. And as dearme mentioned, the higher the nic level, the better the throat hit also. The best 5 volt model on the market (lifetime warranty) is the GLV2. It's about $120. If that is still too high, then I would follow the advice of a 5 volt or VV box mod ($50 - $80). Ken's Box Mods is a well supported supplier on ECF and stands behind his products.

5 volt GLV2: GLV-2 Electronic Cigarette [GLV-2] - $120.00 : Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

5 volt and VV box mods: Kens Boxmods
 

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Some good stuff here. I appreciate the replys. Thanks elfstone for the links. I did discover CCV just recenlty while doing a search on LR cartos. gonna try them. When I started out I was using 24mg nicotine juices but felt that was too much so I am down to 18 and I think that is good for now. I think the WTA factor is at play here.

As far as hating vaping... no I don't. I really love it! In fact I am very excited about it. It is fun as hell. But I see my self spending tons of money at it, and I really don't want to. I will spend good money for good equipment because I see it like this; good tools cost money. You get what you pay for. I have been wrenching on this or tinkering with that as a profession for years and understand good, quality, easy to operate and reliable equipment. So I am not afraid to spend the cash, just don't want to blow it. I am thinking 2 -3 weeks and I'll be vaping a VV.

potholerepairman mentioned flavor. On to that already. Favorite vape so far has been hot cinnamon from elecronicstix but they are out for about a week and a half on refills so I'll have to vape what I have got. And that's ok cause I've got enough other stuff and I am ok hitting an analog once in a while as I am learning and finding the right groove. Supply seems to be a major issue in the vaping community among the various vendors. I see all the time on various site or at the local supplier that they are out of this or that. "Sorry, this item is out of stock." This is not a rant. Just an observation on a relatively young industry. Marlboro is every where. Vaping supplies are not...

I have looked at the provari. While it is more expensive and has more features that I would appreciate and number are cool and I do like to tinker, I think I am liking the idea of adjustment on the fly to fit the need. Plus the buzz products look like a more straight forward tool. I haven't ruled out anything yet.
 

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The ego-t v3 aka lava tube is just as good as the provari, thats according to some veterans i spoke to. Is this true?
Nope not close.
There are companies like Provape and say Super T that vapers swear by. I've said good things about all the high end PV's that I own or have owned, including Notcigs. They are costly but reasonable; 1. vaping is a new industry, and unless it's mass produced overseas it's not going to be cheap. 2. I spent a hell of a lot on smoking.
I paid pretty close attention to the comments and reviews of LT and nowhere have I seen anyone say it's as good as a Provari. It may have some similarities. You get what you pay for.
I first check out what others are saying especially vapers that i respect. If they like it, love it, I'm there.
btw it's very easy to sell off good quality stuff here, and it's a good way to try different high end pv's.
 
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