3000mah 60 amp, what...?
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99.9999% sure it's baloney. Actually, I retract that. I'm 120% sure it's baloney.
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It looks like the battery itself says 40A continuous discharge, which is what should be advertised rather than pulse...but even that would be headline news in the vaping world if it were true, with mah that high.
Yeah, even 40 is unbelievable. There's only one battery I know of, the LG 1500 mAh (that I never remember the model number of), that is a true 30 amp cdr battery. Not even the Sony vtc's are 30 amps.
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Reserving judgement until I see some Tests done it like this one...
Test/Review of Efan IMR18650 3200mAh (Purple)
Test/Review of Efan IMR18650 3200mAh (Purple)
The battery industry is extremely competitive. The major players (LG, Panasonic, Samsung, & Sony) make their own cells, are industry leaders as far as technology advances, and don't need to mislead consumers with over-rated specifications to sell their batteries.
It must be extremely difficult for a new company to get into the industry. Very few, if any, can afford to make a new production plant (multimillion dollar venture), so they buy the second or third tier cells from the major players, re-wrap them, and then give them inflated specifications to make them appear like they are the best battery on the market to uneducated and gullible consumers. This appears to be the case with EFAN.
Unfortunately, the battery industry is not regulated by any agency that I am aware of, so any battery maker can claim whatever specifications that they wish. Most of these companies are based in China, so there is no one to sue in court should a serious injury or death occur because of false advertising of battery specifications or selling a re-wrapped used cell harvested from a laptop and sold as new.
We need a consumer safety advocate agency (like a Consumer Reports) to test batteries as to their safety and quality and confirm if the specifications advertised are genuine. But how would such an agency be funded?
We're incredibly fortunate that ECF has an individual such as Mooch who has volunteered his expertise to test batteries for us. I'd like to propose a Go Fund Me account for him so that he can continue his work.
It must be extremely difficult for a new company to get into the industry. Very few, if any, can afford to make a new production plant (multimillion dollar venture), so they buy the second or third tier cells from the major players, re-wrap them, and then give them inflated specifications to make them appear like they are the best battery on the market to uneducated and gullible consumers. This appears to be the case with EFAN.
Unfortunately, the battery industry is not regulated by any agency that I am aware of, so any battery maker can claim whatever specifications that they wish. Most of these companies are based in China, so there is no one to sue in court should a serious injury or death occur because of false advertising of battery specifications or selling a re-wrapped used cell harvested from a laptop and sold as new.
We need a consumer safety advocate agency (like a Consumer Reports) to test batteries as to their safety and quality and confirm if the specifications advertised are genuine. But how would such an agency be funded?
We're incredibly fortunate that ECF has an individual such as Mooch who has volunteered his expertise to test batteries for us. I'd like to propose a Go Fund Me account for him so that he can continue his work.
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LMFAO !!!!!BTW - I'm still waiting for the 10,000mAh Ceiling to be Broken. We are Getting Close...
WARNING: DO NOT EVEN THINK ABOUT USING THIS BATTERY IN AN E-CIGARETTE. I ONLY POSTED IT TO SHOW THE REDICULOUSNESS OF SOME OF THE OVER-INFLATED NUMBERS PEOPLE PUT ON BATTERIES.
Moody battery wrappers must be laughing all the way to the bank.
"So we can stick any old number we feel like on the side of this battery? And consumers will believe us implicitly..? Lol$!"
I say we go one step further and use Mooch's testing as the basis for a class action suit against the fraudulent companies, and spend the proceeds on diamond encrusted mech mods.
"So we can stick any old number we feel like on the side of this battery? And consumers will believe us implicitly..? Lol$!"
I say we go one step further and use Mooch's testing as the basis for a class action suit against the fraudulent companies, and spend the proceeds on diamond encrusted mech mods.
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Hmm...I'll keep my personal opinions about this to myself for now.
I can't say that the specs are exaggerated without testing but I can say that this would be the first 3000mAh battery rated over 20A, an astounding jump in performance. A claim that has been made multiple times before...and found to be untrue. I would very much like to test this one.
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My main concern now, selfishly, is that I've bought stuff from this site before. That they have added this crap to their inventory has killed any trust I had in them, granted it wasn't that much before. I don't like when people sell expired e-juice on clearance without at least saying what the date of expiration is :/
Good luck with that one.
China companies are immune to lawsuits, as the Chinese government doesn't recognize most of the worlds trade laws.That's why knockoff companies can copy off of Joyetech, Vision, Kanger, Aspire, et all without retribution for patent or trademark infringement. Most Chinese companies don't even bother patenting their products any more because patents are not enforced.
Good luck with that one.
That's why knockoff companies can copy off of Joyetech, Vision, Kanger, Aspire, et all without retribution for patent or trademark infringement. Most Chinese companies don't even bother patenting their products any more because patents are not enforced.
I'm confused, these are all Chinese companies, but off topic now anyway
Where's the confusion?
China and its companies do not fall under the laws of the rest of the world. So there are no copyright or patent infringements within China.
For example, Joytech makes the Ego Twist, and although the "Twist" name may have a legal patent, the knockoff companies don't recognize it and make a knockoff Twist called just a "Twist". If you want an authentic Twist, you better make sure its actually made by Joyetch. This is why there are so many poor quality "Twists" or generic clones on the market.
All of these new companies (AWT, Basen, Cloud Chaser, EFAN, Imren, MXJO, and Vappower brands) producing batteries is amusing. It is extremely difficult to break into the battery industry because these manufacturing plants are in the multi millions of dollars. So how do most of them do it? They buy the second and third tier cells from LG, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony (lesser quality batteries from the main battery manufacturers). They they re-wrap/re-brand these cells with their own logo, and then market them with misleading and over-rated specifications to make consumers believe these batteries are somehow better.
Sad part of all of this is they can get away with these tactics. There are no consumer advocate agencies (ie Consumer Reports) or policing agencies (Underwriters Laboratories) which hold any weight in China. The Chinese government doesn't care, because they are only interested in bringing in wealth into their country.
What don't you understand?
China and its companies do not fall under the laws of the rest of the world. So there are no copyright or patent infringements within China.
For example, Joytech makes the Ego Twist, and although the "Twist" name may have a legal patent, the knockoff companies don't recognize it and make a knockoff Twist called just a "Twist". If you want an authentic Twist, you better make sure its actually made by Joyetch. This is why there are so many poor quality "Twists" or generic clones on the market.
All of these new companies (AWT, Basen, Cloud Chaser, EFAN, Imren, MXJO, and Vappower brands) producing batteries is amusing. It is extremely difficult to break into the battery industry because these manufacturing plants are in the multi millions of dollars. So how do most of them do it? They buy the second and third tier cells from LG, Panasonic, Samsung, and Sony (lesser quality batteries from the main battery manufacturers). They they re-wrap/re-brand these cells with their own logo, and then market them with misleading and over-rated specifications to make consumers believe these batteries are somehow better.
Sad part of all of this is they can get away with these tactics. There are no consumer advocate agencies (ie Consumer Reports) or policing agencies (Underwriters Laboratories) which hold any weight in China. The Chinese government doesn't care, because they are only interested in bringing in wealth into their country.
What don't you understand?
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The companies you listed actually have the best chances of successful legal action against a Chinese clone company 
Being Chinese and all. That's what was confusing.
Being Chinese and all. That's what was confusing.
Something else that Makes the Chinese Market kinda Confusing is that Many OEM's make their own Clones.
Your failing to understand how business operates within China. Lawsuits become tied up in the court systems of China, and rarely work in the favor of the plaintiff. Do some google research on Chinese business practices if you don't believe me.The companies you listed actually have the best chances of successful legal action against a Chinese clone company
Being Chinese and all. That's what was confusing.
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