$500 yeah... $500 really? Those Ihybrids..

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SissySpike

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An LE is a fancy paint job. So its geared towards collectors. I dont see a problem with someone charging a 500$ for a 200$ item. I do think the person who pays such a price is silly but thats just my op. We seem to be in the beany baby phase of mods the fad will go away and things will be at a obtainable price again.
Id suggest buying a plane Jane Ihybred and having it anodized your self then you can get what you want at a much better price. I have one from the first batch for sale Its a great mod.
You have better connectivity with a hybrid. Its dedicated to doing one thing well vs several things ok.
 
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From what I've seen in the classifieds most of the high end mods have a ridiculous price because they really just want to trade for another high end mod. Like OK, I've seen this one, checked it out, maybe used it. Next! Those selling at double price get spanked more often than not even if they are LE. I've seen profiteering on other stuff too.
That's the way I see it, I could be wrong. I've never wanted one and pretty much don't understand the high end mods, uber$$ RBAs or any of that. I'm happy with my low rent stuff. Although I do admit to briefly lusting after the iHy Medicine one with the feather. lol
 

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i gotta chime in to this...i saved the money, and found whatever coupon or the cheapest way possible to get the mod i wanted- after i knew I was dead set on vaping using genesis attys, i bought a zen sw camo le, because it was available and i knew i wanted it, and its still available today for anyone with $295. Then i bought a zen atty u. I would NEVER pay a cent over retail because i know they already make a huge cut on these particular items. I would rather wait...which i am doing now indifferently, until i find one more backup mechanical hybrid mod. i like them, i think they r super convenient if thats your style of vaping, and im glad i spend the money. buying them for double the money is INSANE> people doing that should reconsider their priorities.... ZAU on SVD....jpgzen sw winter camo le innokin svd zau.jpg
 

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I want to know what is wrong with profiteering!!! It is the American way. If some dummy wants to pay what I consider too much, why is that a problem. The way I see it, it is none of my business. I have a much greater issue with the classified ads telling me how much money I can sell something for or how much profit I am allowed to make. If someone wants too offer to sell their LE Vamo for $1000 why is that a problem? I can choose to look at and laugh, but if someone else thinks that is a good deal and chooses to spend the money it is only a concern between the buyer and the seller. "perceived value" is in the eye of the beholder, what is too much money for one, is pocket change to another.
 

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if thats the case them maybe the forum should make some money from it as well and get a percentage of sales, as using this site and free-loading to make a ton of cash in said profiteering.
The way I see it is forums are here to provide a friendly help community, not a price gouging elite society. If you wanna hang out on a free forum- be friendly and treat people as friends
 

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I want to know what is wrong with profiteering!!! It is the American way. If some dummy wants to pay what I consider too much, why is that a problem. The way I see it, it is none of my business. I have a much greater issue with the classified ads telling me how much money I can sell something for or how much profit I am allowed to make. If someone wants too offer to sell their LE Vamo for $1000 why is that a problem? I can choose to look at and laugh, but if someone else thinks that is a good deal and chooses to spend the money it is only a concern between the buyer and the seller. "perceived value" is in the eye of the beholder, what is too much money for one, is pocket change to another.

There is nothing wrong with profiteering - I do it as ethically as possible on ebay all the time... my only issue with it is that this is not what ECF was like when I joined... and the ecf I love to visit and be a part of used to look down upon it... and ecf has the right to change etc...

If someone wants to pay $500 for a limited edition quality mod... I guess I don't really have an issue with the profiteering aspect... I suppose it fits the definition of art... etc... if they are buying them en masse and selling them here... then I think they are kind of scummy... but that's just my opinion... ecf is special to me.

If I can get a boatload of 801 fusions at ten cents each, I'd like to pass the savings along to my brethren here at ECF... On ebay I might charge a heftier price... It bothers me to think people are hogging up the ihybrids and mad murdock juice with the pure intention of reselling it much higher on ecf... open your own website and sell it there...

My original post was less of a complaint about the $500 price tag here... I just had no idea what they cost new... I imagined they were around $300 and they were scarce...

I am saving for an expensive Mod now... and it's definitely going to be the OPus-D unless Jeso at Vaprlife releases his new VV device before then...

I think the Ihybrids are pretty cool though...

No criticism intended towards ecf or our mods... it seems their hearts are in the best interest of community...

I am truly not in favor of imposing all sorts of restrictions and limitations... I just hope that the classies don't become over-saturated with people trying to make profits...

I look at it as a privilege to recoup some of the money I lost buying something I thought I'd like. Especially with juice. I don't want people to ruin this.

...anyway... I guess time will tell how this works out - but if ecf did ultimately allow profiteering, I think they should do what the epipmagazine forum did... and have a separate auction site for it... and charge people to use it - then ecf could have some extra cash to promote itself and vaping etc.
 
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There is nothing wrong with profiteering - I do it as ethically as possible on ebay all the time... my only issue with it is that this is not what ECF was like when I joined... and the ecf I love to visit and be a part of used to look down upon it... and ecf has the right to change etc...

If someone wants to pay $500 for a limited edition quality mod... I guess I don't really have an issue with the profiteering aspect... I suppose it fits the definition of art... etc... if they are buying them en masse and selling them here... then I think they are kind of scummy... but that's just my opinion... ecf is special to me.

If I can get a boatload of 801 fusions at ten cents each, I'd like to pass the savings along to my brethren here at ECF... On ebay I might charge a heftier price... It bothers me to think people are hogging up the ihybrids and mad murdock juice with the pure intention of reselling it much higher on ecf... open your own website and sell it there....

My original post was less of a complaint about the $500 price tag here... I just had no idea what they cost new...

I am saving for an expensive Mod now... and it's definitely going to be the OPus-D unless Jeso at Vaprlife releases his new VV device before then...

I think the Ihybrids are pretty cool though...

I'm of the same opinion, although my take on it is that the people who buy up and resell should do it the "right" way--start a business, get a license, put up a website and sell away (or try).

Don't take advantage of a place that is here to HELP people. Some ECF members may not be as interwebz friendly or vaping aware to know where to get this stuff, and the classies may be the only place they know of to look for stuff all in one place.

I'm not saying there's no such thing as "buyer beware" even here, but someone may find out that they could've gotten something for much less $$ directly from the source. It will reflect badly on this forum. This isn't Craig's List.

And when I can, I plan to buy the Z2 Carto--just gorgeous!:D

Anyway, that's my :2c:
 

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I want to know what is wrong with profiteering!!! It is the American way. If some dummy wants to pay what I consider too much, why is that a problem. The way I see it, it is none of my business. I have a much greater issue with the classified ads telling me how much money I can sell something for or how much profit I am allowed to make. If someone wants too offer to sell their LE Vamo for $1000 why is that a problem? I can choose to look at and laugh, but if someone else thinks that is a good deal and chooses to spend the money it is only a concern between the buyer and the seller. "perceived value" is in the eye of the beholder, what is too much money for one, is pocket change to another.

if thats the case them maybe the forum should make some money from it as well and get a percentage of sales, as using this site and free-loading to make a ton of cash in said profiteering.
The way I see it is forums are here to provide a friendly help community, not a price gouging elite society. If you wanna hang out on a free forum- be friendly and treat people as friends

There is nothing wrong with profiteering - I do it as ethically as possible on ebay all the time... my only issue with it is that this is not what ECF was like when I joined... and the ecf I love to visit and be a part of used to look down upon it... and ecf has the right to change etc...

If someone wants to pay $500 for a limited edition quality mod... I guess I don't really have an issue with the profiteering aspect... I suppose it fits the definition of art... etc... if they are buying them en masse and selling them here... then I think they are kind of scummy... but that's just my opinion... ecf is special to me.

If I can get a boatload of 801 fusions at ten cents each, I'd like to pass the savings along to my brethren here at ECF... On ebay I might charge a heftier price... It bothers me to think people are hogging up the ihybrids and mad murdock juice with the pure intention of reselling it much higher on ecf... open your own website and sell it there....

My original post was less of a complaint about the $500 price tag here... I just had no idea what they cost new... I imagined they were around $300 and they were scarce...

I am saving for an expensive Mod now... and it's definitely going to be the OPus-D unless Jeso at Vaprlife releases his new VV device before then...

I think the Ihybrids are pretty cool though...



The heart and intent of the ECF Classifieds is to have a place to sell something that you are not using anymore - and to give someone else a great deal on it.
 

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I want to know what is wrong with profiteering!!! It is the American way. If some dummy wants to pay what I consider too much, why is that a problem. The way I see it, it is none of my business. I have a much greater issue with the classified ads telling me how much money I can sell something for or how much profit I am allowed to make. If someone wants too offer to sell their LE Vamo for $1000 why is that a problem? I can choose to look at and laugh, but if someone else thinks that is a good deal and chooses to spend the money it is only a concern between the buyer and the seller. "perceived value" is in the eye of the beholder, what is too much money for one, is pocket change to another.

Totally agree. People will charge what their customers are willing to spend. Whether their markup over materials/labor/design is 20% or 10,000% is irrelevant, as long as people willing to pay that price. My hat is off to them for capitalizing on a great opportunity. Lots of "collectors" out there willing to shell out huge amounts for a metal tube with a button. If the product is popular, it will be duplicated and offered for lower prices, that is inevitable and the vendors know that, so it's a race to make as much as possible till that happens.

What I find ironic is that those not willing to spend the money whine about it being expensive, and those willing to spend the money come out whining when the product gets copied and offered to the first group for 20th of the price. Neither of these scenarios is unfair of even unexpected (unless you have a patent/copyright, which is unlikely), but it's still fun to watch the cycle. Personally, I enjoy getting awesome deals on the "Chinese brands". ;)
 

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The heart and intent of the ECF Classifieds is to have a place to sell something that you are not using anymore - and to give someone else a great deal on it.

Too bad some perceive the Classies differently. Eventually they hurt themselves by gaining a questionable reputation since prospective buyers looking for a good deal will bypass their offerings. Yes, it's a supply and demand thing for some items, but should be done fairly and reasonably.
 

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To each their own. There are some people that spend boatloads of money for some ugly painting, for a purse with LV on it, for John Stamos tears (guilty as charged).

For 500, I could get a few rebuildables, enough nic base to last till the second coming of Jesus, and still take my wife out to a steak dinner.
 
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