510 Atomizer adapter by repurposing a Solderless Motorola-Type Inline Jack (will probably work for many attys)

[Nobodyatall]

I have been the beneficiary of a stroke of luck.... or maybe it was just a stroke.

The Radio Shack part#274-710 CAN be used to provide power to a 510 atty. It appears to be fairly sturdy and it should be possible to use other attys as well with one caveat:

The atty should be unpainted.

If I can get the photos to upload I'll show the entire setup. It's surprisingly elementary.

Here is the complete sequence showing the 510 atty (5th from left) and in the foreground is the center post from an RCA plug which is needed to connect power to the center terminal after it is all assembled. You can literally assemble it as shown.



BUT! There are a few details you will need to take care of first.

You MUST drill or ream out the cap slightly so the atty will fit.



These prongs must be bent out a bit so they will allow the atty to slide inside them.



This is how they will look during assembly.



The white plastic housing must have a post installed to make electrical contact with the atty. In this case I chopped off a piece of paperclip. You will want to insert the RCA centerpost to get the right depth of insertion for the paperclip or whatever you use, then cut it longer than necessary and trial fit the atty to make sure it isn't too long or short. This is probably the hardest step. The small screw will lock it in place. You will also want to cut a substantial groove down the side of this housing to let air by. I didn't and everything went together so tight that it wouldn't draw.



Here's the trial fitting in progress... if the system will let me load more photos. I'm sure there's a limit.

Oops... 5 photo limit. More to come.

 

[Nobodyatall]

As promised, the fitting.

The whole mess ready for insertion into the casing.

Going together.

The completed unit. Please note the RCA post. It goes in the open hole in the white plastic housing after you connect your power to the post. You get the other side of the power into the unit by soldering your wire directly to the chromed tube prior to final assembly in your mod.

And last but not least, the unit installed in a largish PUCK style device. In fact, I'm vaping on it as I post.

Don't forget to cut a groove down the white housing so air can get in. Otherwise you may not get any draw at all.

 

[boz]

Why? What's wrong with screwing atties directly to a connector or an adaptor? Just seems like hard work for no good reason to me. Sorry.

 

[WillyB]

Well it fits in with the 'buy everything at RS' theme the Puck was aiming for.

 

[asdaq]

Yes it does. Except for atties and juice. It also looks like a lot of heat insulation layers around the atty not to be trifled with.

 

[Nobodyatall]

Why? What's wrong with screwing atties directly to a connector or an adaptor? Just seems like hard work for no good reason to me. Sorry.

Oh sure, it would be SO much easier to just screw one on, but if you DON'T have the proper connector on you and don't want to pay $X/each + $X/shipping and wait who knows how long so that you can install just ONE type of atty on your mod (without buying yet another adapter), well what do you do? Gots a solution in yer back pocket? Please do share!

Yes it does. Except for atties and juice. It also looks like a lot of heat insulation layers around the atty not to be trifled with.

Surprisingly, it vapes very cool and easy so far. Atty seems to stay cooler than on an eGo type. I'm just not seeing much of the insulating effect you seem concerned with. If you go back and look, you will notice that the "fingers" of the little "star shaped" clamp contact the atty almost exactly at the level of the element. In that respect, they should act as heatsinks. Those "fingers" then extend down into the incoming airflow. What I'm not clear on is whether you are pro or anti insulation and why. If your concern is overheating, then that doesn't appear to be a concern thusfar even under chain-vape. I can heat my eGo derivative much faster. The vapor off this one is noticeably cooler.

@ WillyB: It wasn't so much a buying @ RS thing as local sourcing for components. After no small frustration trying to fabricate the RCA Plug adapter from up in the stickys and finding each plug to be made differently than described or otherwise useless for the intended purpose, I decided to look for a better mousetrap. What I found, among several candidates, is surprisingly sturdy. Much moreso than the box it ultimately went in. I couldn't pull the atty out without pliers and a lot of force. In fact, the adapter would almost certainly tear out of the box first. Yes, it's that secure, but I took some care to keep tolerances tight.

What I'm waiting for here is for a couple of folks to try it with other atty types. It looks like it should be a multiadapter, threading is irrelevant.

A few people will find that mildly interesting, I'm sure.

 

[roadrash]

I do understand your point. I went thru the same discovery route when I first started.

I used f connectors and rca connectors and I have a whole box of bits and pieces that i tried to use to make those connectors work. It was a learning curve for modding for sure.

once I got my 510 connectors from Mad Vapes and the dead battery connectors started piling up, there didn't seem to be a reason to build that better mouse trap. there was so many other things to explore to build that would enhance your vaping experience, not just replace what you already had.

You did do some nice quality work on this connector and I think noobs who are just starting modding may try this with the Puck and other easy mods until they get the hunger for something better. Its a process a lot of us went through.
good luck with your future ideas and keep em coming.

 

[asdaq]

It's not just the fingers. I see perhaps a third of the atty sticking out, and there are layers of metal, plastic and metal again that are going to hold the heat in. The ego cone doesn't even touch the atty but heat gets built up and potentially shortens atty life particularly with LR atties. YMMV

And otherwise, since you are getting juice and atties somewhere, chances are you can get the connectors too, and they aren't that much. In the beginning, I fought hard trying to get taps and dies and rca plugs but in the end getting a proper connector saves a lot of headache and just works right. Those threads are worth their weight in gold. I live in Poland, but still get them sent from madvapes, it's just that much simpler.

That all said, I do like the looks of this and don't mean to stymie your creative flow. By all means go for what makes you happy!

 

[WillyB]

Don't be so hard on Nobodyatall. He saw what he considered to be a need based on his parameters and ran with it.

Many like the RCA style type of universal atty connectors, his way seems like a one size fits all approach.

Although from the pic it seems like over heating may be a problem he went on to compare to the eGo style and said:

Surprisingly, it vapes very cool and easy so far. Atty seems to stay cooler than on an eGo type. I'm just not seeing much of the insulating effect you seem concerned with. If you go back and look, you will notice that the "fingers" of the little "star shaped" clamp contact the atty almost exactly at the level of the element. In that respect, they should act as heatsinks. Those "fingers" then extend down into the incoming airflow. What I'm not clear on is whether you are pro or anti insulation and why. If your concern is overheating, then that doesn't appear to be a concern thusfar even under chain-vape. I can heat my eGo derivative much faster. The vapor off this one is noticeably cooler.

No reason to doubt him and it seems he also has a way to get the exact draw he wants.

 

[asdaq]

Not going for hard at all, just calling them as I see them. Also, I see now that the fingers are on the atty and the rest of the connector with metal-plastic-metal layers is behind the atty. Just the last cap shrouds over the atty but only touches the fingers (pic of cap was blurry, is it metal?) without restricting the airflow or insulating the atty. Rather like a mechanical drafter's pencil without the spring and pencil.

 

[Nobodyatall]

Not going for hard at all, just calling them as I see them. Also, I see now that the fingers are on the atty and the rest of the connector with metal-plastic-metal layers is behind the atty. Just the last cap shrouds over the atty but only touches the fingers (pic of cap was blurry, is it metal?) without restricting the airflow or insulating the atty. Rather like a mechanical drafter's pencil without the spring and pencil.

The cap is not metal, but some kind of plastic and the base of the atty has decent exposure to the incoming airflow and yes, I think your comparison with a drafters pencil is a good one. I've installed it into a 5V device and unless I try to produce a continuous wall of fog, it just doesn't seem to get as hot as my RiVa and seems to cool a bit faster. There have been times when the RiVa has left me concerned at the heating of the battery due to the atty heat being sucked down into it. I've gotten it so hot that I was literally worried about melting insulators. At 3.8V the improvised adapter actually produced vapor a little too cool for my taste, to be honest.

I can only encourage you to try it, if you can get the part, and give your impressions. Another item to consider, the metal "fingers" make physical contact with the metal tube which runs down the length of the tube and the incoming air is being drawn up that tube in much greater quantities than "normal". As constructed, it has probably half the resistance to airflow than an eGo, which is to say the draw is super easy.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the whole thing was an attempt to bypass a lack of parts. I simply don't have a pile of broken batteries or a bag of super secret connectors bought from Joes E-cig Connector Shop or wherever. WHen people propose that "the solution" is to wait until you have a bunch of broken stuff to scavenge or just go buy "the right part", I just have to ask "Why mod at all, why not just go buy a complete e-cig made of all the right parts?". Sort of defeats the purpose of modding doesn't it?

Improvise, adapt, overcome!

 

[roadrash]

usually I would shut up at this point, buuuuut you said.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the whole thing was an attempt to bypass a lack of parts. I simply don't have a pile of broken batteries or a bag of super secret connectors bought from Joes E-cig Connector Shop or wherever. WHen people propose that "the solution" is to wait until you have a bunch of broken stuff to scavenge or just go buy "the right part", I just have to ask "Why mod at all, why not just go buy a complete e-cig made of all the right parts?". Sort of defeats the purpose of modding doesn't it?

That's not what I said at all.
I stated that when I first started, that I made all kinds of connectors from stuff from my shop and parts from around the house. Not some secret connector shop. bye the time I got some 510 connectors from Mad Vapes I had already started accumulating dead battery connectors. Once you have the proper connector you can move on to more important devices, Like a booster mod or a VV mod or a juicer.
If most of the modders had kept fiddling around with there own version of a connector, the best mod you could buy now would be a 4-x-aa-x-2- box Puck with a homemade f connector on top.

Excuse me while I go try and build my own version of a PTR08060wvd with the junk parts I have accumulated. Even though there is one sitting in front of me. whats the purpose of using it.
Just saying.

 

[Nobodyatall]

usually I would shut up at this point, buuuuut you said.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, the whole thing was an attempt to bypass a lack of parts. I simply don't have a pile of broken batteries or a bag of super secret connectors bought from Joes E-cig Connector Shop or wherever. WHen people propose that "the solution" is to wait until you have a bunch of broken stuff to scavenge or just go buy "the right part", I just have to ask "Why mod at all, why not just go buy a complete e-cig made of all the right parts?". Sort of defeats the purpose of modding doesn't it?

That's not what I said at all.
I stated that when I first started, that I made all kinds of connectors from stuff from my shop and parts from around the house. Not some secret connector shop. bye the time I got some 510 connectors from Mad Vapes I had already started accumulating dead battery connectors. Once you have the proper connector you can move on to more important devices, Like a booster mod or a VV mod or a juicer.
If most of the modders had kept fiddling around with there own version of a connector, the best mod you could buy now would be a 4-x-aa-x-2- box Puck with a homemade f connector on top.

Excuse me while I go try and build my own version of a PTR08060wvd with the junk parts I have accumulated. Even though there is one sitting in front of me. whats the purpose of using it.
Just saying.

You are quite right, you didn't say that. I'm just fond of the occasional.... mmmm.... overdramatic sarcasm for rhetorical effect.

It's mostly in fairly good natured, if ocassionally cranky, fun. You see, both myself and at least one other person have been asking around for the correct part # for the RCA to whatever adapter. The answer was not forthcoming, so I went and found something else. A small victory, yet a victory all the same. Better, I've been vaping on the silly box mod thing since I finished it and end up liking its vaping characteristics better than my RiVa! That's so funny!

But anyway, what I wrote wasn't particularly aimed at you or anyone else. However, I was feeling mildly miffed at having found a functional workaround, only to have to explain the rationale to folks who will never need it anyway because they have the connectors, etc., in their back pockets already. Of course, there's no point if you gots the stuffs already! The whole thing is for those who need it now, not later and have a RS or the like nearby. Besides, my inner MacGuyver loves making things work differently than they were originally meant to. And I'm thinking about attys now.... Hmmmmmmm.

Incidentally, you weren't the first person to mention just using the correct adapter. Obviously, the idea wasn't meant for him either.

And let me take a moment to thank you for your earlier praise. That was kind of you. I DID notice.

Now will someone go build the thing & confirm it works for something other than a 510?

 

[boz]

Oh sure, it would be SO much easier to just screw one on, but if you DON'T have the proper connector on you and don't want to pay $X/each + $X/shipping and wait who knows how long so that you can install just ONE type of atty on your mod (without buying yet another adapter), well what do you do? Gots a solution in yer back pocket? Please do share!

Sure, when I make an order of a different type of atti or carto I also fork out the $3 pittance for an adaptor. If you can afford to buy all this stuff from RS then surely you can afford a few bucks when you make an atti or carto purchase. It's not rocket surgery. By the way, adding an adaptor to your order doesn't increase the postage.

 

[asdaq]

Here's a link if anyone wants to try:

Solderless Motorola-Type Inline Jack - RadioShack.com

 

[Nobodyatall]

Here's a link if anyone wants to try:

Solderless Motorola-Type Inline Jack - RadioShack.com

Thank you, that is very kind!

And thank you for being consistently on topic!

There's something I haven't mentioned about the thing. It's just a possibility I haven't been able to explore yet. And no, I'm not giving hints except to say "look at the size and shape".

I'll explore that this weekend.