Problem is, your gunna have to try a couple attys etc until you find whats right for you. I have one of everything and still like nothing better then my ego t :-( and trust me, i tried. And see ... others HATE the ego t. Its what you like.
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It looks really good. If it is indeed regulated at 3.6 V that is a definite plus, as is the passthru option. I'd still get the 1300 mAh, though.
On paper, it's probably a better choice than the KGO, especially if you have 808 stuff laying around. I'm also curious what sailorman thinks about it, to be honest - I really respect his opinions.
And I don't know much of anything that I didn't learn with the help of people here, really... but thanks.
Ive had my ego t for two months, and STILL like it more then any other crap ive tried o wise one. Friend had his for a year. I dont understand what can be stubborn about the ego t atty lol? I fill it, put it back in, and get the best tasting vapor out of anything ive tried. Boil it once every 2 weeks to clean.
BTW - Cartos extremely distort the taste of juice compared to a tank. And here we go like I said .. Everyone likes something different.
Stop acting like your speaking for everyone lool because you sure arent mr. 4,000 posts.
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Hi kranecu,
It really does get overwhelming with all of the great choices doesn't it? I tend to get analysis paralysis and my head spins when faced with too many choices. You probably won't go wrong with any of the recommendations you've gotten here.
I'm in the Naperville area (west of Chicago) and have a KGO, mini lavatube and Ego C Twist. If you're in the area and would like to meet up at a Starbucks, I would be happy to let you try them out. Just PM me if interested.
Best wishes choosing your gear. Very happy for you that you're back to vaping!!!
Gloria
It really does get overwhelming with all of the great choices doesn't it? I tend to get analysis paralysis and my head spins when faced with too many choices. You probably won't go wrong with any of the recommendations you've gotten here.
I'm in the Naperville area (west of Chicago) and have a KGO, mini lavatube and Ego C Twist. If you're in the area and would like to meet up at a Starbucks, I would be happy to let you try them out. Just PM me if interested.
Best wishes choosing your gear. Very happy for you that you're back to vaping!!!
Gloria
Please don't fight... it doesn't help him if you fight. Please? You all made your cases very well, and I think he can figure out, but if you add too much passion to it, everything you say becomes a bit less credible (is it really so, or he's just trying to one up the other guy?)
I am assuming it was the Joye eGo Twist (change voltage by Twisting a knob on the bottom) They come in 650mah and 1000mah (longer battery life). You can use the variable voltage to match everything to where it tastes or works best for you. It will hold that voltage until the battery runs out (will not fade).
The Vivi Nova 2.5 is (maybe) a little better than the Star Dust V2. They are both rebuildable and the heads are replaceable and the heads are actually interchangeable between the two. Definitely the Nova, but why not try the Star Dust as well ($6)?
The Nova and Star Dust each come with their own drip tip (mouth piece). People use drip tips on cartos so they can drip a few drops inside to keep the filling wet.
If you buy the Twist batteries separately you will need the Rapid USB charger (it's 420 or 500 mA) about $5. Spares are always recommended. There are PCCs but not really necessary. For the price you could just get another battery, right?
everything here should be available at Gotvapes.
Good Luck! Relax, Enjoy!
Plus one on the Twist and Vivi Nova 2.5 setup. The twist along with the different heads on the Nova let me dial it in to my satisfaction.
Tooting some Copper Creek apple cider with the Twist on 4.2 volts through the 2.4 head right now. Nice! Last night I was tooting Copper Creek watermelon through the Twist at 3.8 volts through the lower ohm 1.8 head.Also nice. I'm gonna slap in the 2.8 head, crank the Twist all the way up and vape my face off here later.
I also have the Stardust clearomizers which are very easy to use and work just fine. Don't be afraid of the Nova, it's as easy as unscrewing and re-screwing things together and it's vapetastic. Believe me, I can barely fix a sandwich, but these things are simple. Good luck my friend and vape on!
Tooting some Copper Creek apple cider with the Twist on 4.2 volts through the 2.4 head right now. Nice! Last night I was tooting Copper Creek watermelon through the Twist at 3.8 volts through the lower ohm 1.8 head.Also nice. I'm gonna slap in the 2.8 head, crank the Twist all the way up and vape my face off here later.
I also have the Stardust clearomizers which are very easy to use and work just fine. Don't be afraid of the Nova, it's as easy as unscrewing and re-screwing things together and it's vapetastic. Believe me, I can barely fix a sandwich, but these things are simple. Good luck my friend and vape on!
I did not read this entire thread but, I do think from what I read in your first post that you may be very happy with a Bloog or Smokeless Image set up. I have tried a Bloog and their prefilled cartos and some are pretty good.
My mom uses a Bloog and when she will use it, it works very well for her. Good luck to you and just don't give up. You will find lots of help here on the forum when you need it. Sometimes even too much help
My mom uses a Bloog and when she will use it, it works very well for her. Good luck to you and just don't give up. You will find lots of help here on the forum when you need it. Sometimes even too much help
very true elfstone. As of now, I have decided to go with 2 volt x2 1300s with the clearomizers as that seems to be the best combination of battery life, ease of use, and price of all the suggestions. If I can show myself that I can get off of the $70 cartons of analogs, that opens up my budget to a ridiculous amount and I can stock up on some variable voltage batteries with Vivi Nova V2.
I will sleep on it and read any additional posts you all may have by tomorrow.
Thanks again all for all your time and help.
I will sleep on it and read any additional posts you all may have by tomorrow.
Thanks again all for all your time and help.
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Indeed. No idea where that guy is coming from with the fun "stubborn" comment lol.
The sailerman should understand ... What one likes another will not. Should have made my name "ArmyMan"
Differences between the Vivi Nova and the Stardust:
The Vivi doesn't leak. The Stardust does, eventually if not right away.
The Stardust was re-designed so that the heads are more difficult to rebuild. They haven't done that with the Vivi (yet).
Many people complain that the Stardust starts tasting burnt. That's a rare complaint with the Vivi.
The Vivi costs 2x as much, but it also has 3 heads. If you use a variable voltage, it's like getting 3 for the price of one.
The Vivi is a lot easier to disassemble and clean than the Stardust, which was never really designed to be taken apart a lot.
The Vivi Nova never leaks. Never, ever, ever. You have to try hard to make it leak or flood.
At the risk of repeating myself, if you get the Twist be sure to get a kit or at least 2 batteries, especially if you get the 650mah version. Also, be aware how honkin long they are, especially the 1000mah version.
For the price of a pair of Twists, you can get a non-disposable variable voltage Vtube that will still be under warranty when the Twist batteries are worn out and ready for the garbage can.
So, you can buy 2 disposable Twists that'll get you 6 hours between them before you need a charge, or you can get this,, which will get you a year warranty and 12-14 straight hours between charges. Instead of a twisty dial, this has an LED screen that tells you your voltage. Instead of guessing if your battery is charging, it'll tell you the battery level. Instead of throwing it away when the battery is worn out, you pay $8 for a new battery.
$60 with free shipping. Use code Vtube30 at apolloecigs.com
The Vivi doesn't leak. The Stardust does, eventually if not right away.
The Stardust was re-designed so that the heads are more difficult to rebuild. They haven't done that with the Vivi (yet).
Many people complain that the Stardust starts tasting burnt. That's a rare complaint with the Vivi.
The Vivi costs 2x as much, but it also has 3 heads. If you use a variable voltage, it's like getting 3 for the price of one.
The Vivi is a lot easier to disassemble and clean than the Stardust, which was never really designed to be taken apart a lot.
The Vivi Nova never leaks. Never, ever, ever. You have to try hard to make it leak or flood.
At the risk of repeating myself, if you get the Twist be sure to get a kit or at least 2 batteries, especially if you get the 650mah version. Also, be aware how honkin long they are, especially the 1000mah version.
For the price of a pair of Twists, you can get a non-disposable variable voltage Vtube that will still be under warranty when the Twist batteries are worn out and ready for the garbage can.
So, you can buy 2 disposable Twists that'll get you 6 hours between them before you need a charge, or you can get this,, which will get you a year warranty and 12-14 straight hours between charges. Instead of a twisty dial, this has an LED screen that tells you your voltage. Instead of guessing if your battery is charging, it'll tell you the battery level. Instead of throwing it away when the battery is worn out, you pay $8 for a new battery.
$60 with free shipping. Use code Vtube30 at apolloecigs.com
I'm on my phone so I couldn't read through all 7 pages, but here is my opinion. I'm a Provari user, but it doesn't seem like it would be the right PV for a beginner such as yourself. From my experience, I have tried a bunch of different mods to get my friends off of analogs from tube mods, EGO styles, tanks to small analog style 510s and the unit they have all been happy with is the VMod XL. It uses an 18650 battery and holds 9ml of juice for all day vaping. It can also use cartos or attys and you dont have to fiddle with constantly topping off or refilling. The kit sells for around $80, but you can often find 15-20% coupons as well as free shipping. You will also need to pick up 2 18650's and a charger. If you decide that you want to try VV vaping down the road, it can easily be modified to use a kick as well. Hope this helps.
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Indeed. No idea where that guy is coming from with the fun "stubborn" comment lol.
The sailerman should understand ... What one likes another will not. Should have made my name "ArmyMan"
My use of the word "stubborn" comes from reading posts from people who say they stayed with a leaky, poor performing tank system because, in their own words, they were "stubborn", or they "tried to stay loyal" or they "stuck with it" as long as they could before abandoning it in frustration. What other tank system has so many problems that not a day goes by without the same old posts from another owner asking how to keep it from leaking, or make it taste good? Whole threads, spanning many months, are here that discuss nothing but tips on how to make the eGo-T work right.
So, it's not a matter of what I like or not. It's a matter of reading dozens and dozens of posts from people who got fed-up with the eGo-T tank system after being enthusiastic about it in the beginning. I'm not using my personal bias at all. I'm going strictly by the overwhelmingly negative experiences I've read here, and the fact that, with few exceptions, all the positives are coming from newbies who haven't had their eGo-Ts for very long.
OP, from a recently (few days ago) convert, let me give you some advice. No, I'm not a vet or someone that even probably has a real grasp on everything that is even possible. But, from the reading and posting I've done, here we go ...
What you buy to start will last you for a while or it won't. Nice, huh?
There are lots of reasons to go 808 or 501 or Volt or kgo or .... you get the idea. Its truly not feasible to try EVERYTHING available right out of the gate, unless you have an endless supply of money. My recommendation would be to get in the door at a the least cover charge possible and see what this whole thing is like. So, my inexperienced advice is this -
Got to Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Standard Starter Kit - Starter Kits and order the starter kit. Select one AUTO battery and one MANUAL battery. Select the 78mm for each one, the extra dollar is well worth it. For the cartridges in that kit, scroll down to the strong sampler. This will give you five different flavors to try out. If you are a red smoker, go with the high or extra high. This will give you the nicotine you'll be needing. I am personally vaping on the 18mg as a Marlboro Lights smoker and its a little on the high side, but a great hit. Then, I would add another sampler of sorts to your cart for the same order. Pick the smooth or sweet sampler, whichever one appeals to you. This will give you 10 cartos and two batteries to get you started. This Saturday is 30% off. You will save a chunk of money to get yourself in the door. The code to use in HAPPYBIRTHDAYIMAGINE
Even if a month down the road you ditch the Volt and go with another solution or something bigger or whatever, this will give you a chance to try a quality vape at stupid cheap prices. You should be able to get everything I mentioned above with shipping at around $45.
Get a starter kit, enjoy the vape and start looking at what you may want to expand to while vaping. My 2 cents bud. Good luck!
What you buy to start will last you for a while or it won't. Nice, huh?
There are lots of reasons to go 808 or 501 or Volt or kgo or .... you get the idea. Its truly not feasible to try EVERYTHING available right out of the gate, unless you have an endless supply of money. My recommendation would be to get in the door at a the least cover charge possible and see what this whole thing is like. So, my inexperienced advice is this -
Got to Smokeless Image | Only The Best Electronic Cigarette | Volt - Standard Starter Kit - Starter Kits and order the starter kit. Select one AUTO battery and one MANUAL battery. Select the 78mm for each one, the extra dollar is well worth it. For the cartridges in that kit, scroll down to the strong sampler. This will give you five different flavors to try out. If you are a red smoker, go with the high or extra high. This will give you the nicotine you'll be needing. I am personally vaping on the 18mg as a Marlboro Lights smoker and its a little on the high side, but a great hit. Then, I would add another sampler of sorts to your cart for the same order. Pick the smooth or sweet sampler, whichever one appeals to you. This will give you 10 cartos and two batteries to get you started. This Saturday is 30% off. You will save a chunk of money to get yourself in the door. The code to use in HAPPYBIRTHDAYIMAGINE
Even if a month down the road you ditch the Volt and go with another solution or something bigger or whatever, this will give you a chance to try a quality vape at stupid cheap prices. You should be able to get everything I mentioned above with shipping at around $45.
Get a starter kit, enjoy the vape and start looking at what you may want to expand to while vaping. My 2 cents bud. Good luck!
If the whole point is to get off analogs, then this option is MORE than adequate.
If you do end up going this route, use the coupon code "VOLTSAVE" for 16% off.
Kudos to elfstone for his strong posts. Canned or not, dem's good peaches!
I'm not sure when you are ordering, but smokeless image is having a 30% off sale on Saturday.
If you are interested, I will be posting a YouTube video with the vivi nova 2.5 on an x2 tomorrow morning. I just finished recording it and will be uploading. I have had the vivi for a few days and live it
Kranecu, I kind of feel sorry for you with all the conflicting info here, what a friggin' nightmare! Call me stupid, but for a beginner, I like the KISS motto. In the case of vaping that would be to start off with something simple and relatively inexpensive and uncomplicated but satisfying while you test the waters and see what is out there. Despite all the different names and costs and options including variable voltage, all you really need is a decent battery that lasts most of the day, and some combination to vaporize and hold your juice. Every "system" does this to a greater or lesser degree. If you keep in mind that all batteries are disposable, it takes the pressure off your first purchase, because it is only temporary. The only real decision you need to make (and even this isn't irreversible) is the thread system you choose for your accessories such as cartomizers, atomizers, clearomizers, whatever. I would say that 510 is probably the most popular and versatile. (but even if you went with an 808 and later changed your mind, you can get an adapter for 808-510 for under 4 bucks.) Without getting specific, I would recommend a 510 device with at least 2 1000mah batteries and since you aren't too fond of cartomizers, try that vivi-nova tank. I had to start out on a very limited budget so I went with the tried and true EGO (not the EGO T or tank model) 1000mah and I opted for the passthrough for 2 reasons...one, because I could only afford one battery and the passthrough allowed me to vape WHILE it was charging, an two, I spend a lot of time at the computer so I can just keep it plugged into my USB port always charged and good to go if I leave the house. I do use Boge cartomizers I get cheap from Sure Vapes for $23 for 25 of them + free shipping! This has worked perfectly for me for over 6 months using the same battery. (though I do now have a back up!) My biggest expense turned out to be buying jooses that I never seemed too fond of, so learned the art of DIY, or do it yourself mixing, which is a lot of fun, a whole lot cheaper, plus I can mix to my taste, which is very gratifying, but probably not something you need to know right now! LOL!!! Sorry!
I think about every one I know went a similar route as I did and were more than happy with it, both as beginners and well into their vaping experience. Even those that move on to bigger and better probably have an EGo as a back-up somewhere, a good old stand-by. As you know, there is tons of stuff out there, and I suppose it all pretty much does the job. I just went with the no frills work horse as presented to me, so take it for what it is worth to you. But the generic info is valid and what you can lean on. Certainly not THE only choice, but a GOOD one. Good luck, and let us know what you end up with!
I think about every one I know went a similar route as I did and were more than happy with it, both as beginners and well into their vaping experience. Even those that move on to bigger and better probably have an EGo as a back-up somewhere, a good old stand-by. As you know, there is tons of stuff out there, and I suppose it all pretty much does the job. I just went with the no frills work horse as presented to me, so take it for what it is worth to you. But the generic info is valid and what you can lean on. Certainly not THE only choice, but a GOOD one. Good luck, and let us know what you end up with!
I agree with CharlieGirl about K.I.S.S., which is why I recommended the Volt in the first place.
But, you go beyond K.I.S.S. when you start talking about tank systems and variable voltage.
One thing I won't agree with is that all batteries are disposable. Well, let me modify that.
All batteries are disposable, but that doesn't mean all e-cigs are disposable, because there's no reason for an e-cig to be nothing but a battery with a switch and connector attached to it.
If an e-cig that isn't disposable and that takes a separate battery is too complicated, I'd suggest you take a look around your house and see how many disposable flashlights you have. Do you have a battery operated power drill or other device? Are they too complicated? Why should an e-cig be rendered disposable by sealing the battery inside, where you can't get to it when it starts to hold a charge for less time than it used to. Could it be to sell $20 batteries instead of $5 batteries? E-cigs with sealed, built-in batteries are a relic from a time when cylindrical lithium batteries were exotic and hard to find. They're still produced for no other reason than to make sure you buy an new one instead of replacing the battery yourself.
All of which brings me back to the second PV that was mentioned. The e-power costs about $40, includes two 1050mah batteries, is a universally compatible 510, doesn't need a PCC, will last all day without being tied to a computer and is small and uncomplicated, unless you consider changing a battery in a flashlight to be complicated.
An e-Power, a box of 2ohm Boge cartomizers and a Vivi Nova will get you a decent, all-around, hassle free e-cig without the need to learn tricks to prevent leaking, without needing to be tied to a computer and without paranoia about when your batteries will run out or when your e-cig will be ready for the trash can. A 14650 e-Power uses a single battery that's about the size of a AA battery. If you're going to be away from a charger for more than 8 or 10 hours, just bring another battery with you. You would need to carry around 3 650mah Twists to last as long as an e-Power with a single little AA sized battery.
But, you go beyond K.I.S.S. when you start talking about tank systems and variable voltage.
One thing I won't agree with is that all batteries are disposable. Well, let me modify that.
All batteries are disposable, but that doesn't mean all e-cigs are disposable, because there's no reason for an e-cig to be nothing but a battery with a switch and connector attached to it.
If an e-cig that isn't disposable and that takes a separate battery is too complicated, I'd suggest you take a look around your house and see how many disposable flashlights you have. Do you have a battery operated power drill or other device? Are they too complicated? Why should an e-cig be rendered disposable by sealing the battery inside, where you can't get to it when it starts to hold a charge for less time than it used to. Could it be to sell $20 batteries instead of $5 batteries? E-cigs with sealed, built-in batteries are a relic from a time when cylindrical lithium batteries were exotic and hard to find. They're still produced for no other reason than to make sure you buy an new one instead of replacing the battery yourself.
All of which brings me back to the second PV that was mentioned. The e-power costs about $40, includes two 1050mah batteries, is a universally compatible 510, doesn't need a PCC, will last all day without being tied to a computer and is small and uncomplicated, unless you consider changing a battery in a flashlight to be complicated.
An e-Power, a box of 2ohm Boge cartomizers and a Vivi Nova will get you a decent, all-around, hassle free e-cig without the need to learn tricks to prevent leaking, without needing to be tied to a computer and without paranoia about when your batteries will run out or when your e-cig will be ready for the trash can. A 14650 e-Power uses a single battery that's about the size of a AA battery. If you're going to be away from a charger for more than 8 or 10 hours, just bring another battery with you. You would need to carry around 3 650mah Twists to last as long as an e-Power with a single little AA sized battery.
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