808 newbie

[rschauer]

I'm still pretty new to vaping, but here's my $.02. I have Volt autos and a Bloog manual and love them both. The manual is great for the CE2 clearomizers (juice gets into the airway more often than I'd like, so I prefer using them on the sealed manual). Bloog and Volt cartos are both pretty good, but I think Bloog is using a different juice, perhaps a touch more VG in the mix. Volt's pre-filled cartos are 80% PG and have pretty awesome TH at 24mg. I got my Bloog pre-filleds in 18mg and different flavors, so it's hard to compare, but I find them just as good (although I'm not a big fan of the Watermelon).

I've also gotten a lot of extra cartos and stuff from goodprophets.com (who are having a sale at this very moment). Shipping is average, prices are excellent. Anything for the DSE901, from what I understand, has the same threading as the KR808-D1. I haven't seen attys anywhere that are labeled as 808, but there are tons of 901s out there. GP (and other places) also have adapters for different styles. I just ordered a 501 atty with an adapter myself; I'll let you know how it works.

 

[keyzygirl]

I prefer the V4L batts because they run at 3.7 not below and the cartos hold up at 3.7 and can be used at 5v without burning issues that some of the other cartos have.If you like to vape at 3.2 and only 3.2 or below than by all means have at it.I just prefer a true 3.7 battery and I dont want to have to buy different cartos to put on my 5v GLV.V4L fills my need.They are constantly improving and trying to make it better.Ask Leaford.He worked for V4L.They sent him to China to work for them before Bloog did.He created that PT for V4L.They turned it down.Before it was the Trifecta,it was called the VK1.Its not about competition and insulting the other company.Its about moving forward and improving vaping for all of us.These petty little spats about who is better is just stupid.It all depends what your looking for and how you like to vape.Everyone has a preference and that doesnt make it right or wrong,just different.As for Morandir,he is an honest person and will tell it like it is.He tests and studies 808s before any opinion is formed.He can always back it up with facts.He tries different brands,tests and compares the results.I respect him for that.OK,rant over.

 

[hollyberry]

Thanks! What flavors do you recommend for the Bloog pre-filleds?

I'm still pretty new to vaping, but here's my $.02. I have Volt autos and a Bloog manual and love them both. The manual is great for the CE2 clearomizers (juice gets into the airway more often than I'd like, so I prefer using them on the sealed manual). Bloog and Volt cartos are both pretty good, but I think Bloog is using a different juice, perhaps a touch more VG in the mix. Volt's pre-filled cartos are 80% PG and have pretty awesome TH at 24mg. I got my Bloog pre-filleds in 18mg and different flavors, so it's hard to compare, but I find them just as good (although I'm not a big fan of the Watermelon).

I've also gotten a lot of extra cartos and stuff from goodprophets.com (who are having a sale at this very moment). Shipping is average, prices are excellent. Anything for the DSE901, from what I understand, has the same threading as the KR808-D1. I haven't seen attys anywhere that are labeled as 808, but there are tons of 901s out there. GP (and other places) also have adapters for different styles. I just ordered a 501 atty with an adapter myself; I'll let you know how it works.

 

[rschauer]

Its not about competition and insulting the other company.Its about moving forward and improving vaping for all of us.These petty little spats about who is better is just stupid.It all depends what your looking for and how you like to vape.Everyone has a preference and that doesnt make it right or wrong,just different.

Right on. Thank you for that.

Hollyberry: I only got the non-tobacco sampler from Bloog. I really like the coffee and chocolate ones. I got the tobacco sampler from SmokelessImage (Volt), and they were all pretty good, especially their RY4 and 555. (Of course, I haven't tried many other versions of those. I've also heard that Bloog's 555 is outstanding.)

 

[Morandir835]

Thank you Ms. Keyzy, your respect means alot.

It's not really a secret what batts I prefer and who makes them, but I truly do try my best to stay unbiased here in the general kr808 forum. One thing I've learned in my time from switching to pv's is no two vapers vape the same or have the same preferences. A few of my dear friends prefer the horizontal coil regulated batt set up, others love the unregulated with a medium to low resistance carto, others prefer ce2's, list goes on. None are really better than the other, because it's what's best for the individual that matters. Why I always suggest trying as much as you can before making any decision on which one is right for you. Some people luck out and find vaping nirvana right away, most it's a trial and error process.

 

[rawrscary]

Rawrscary sir where to begin, in case you haven't noticed I'm a regular both here and of course on v4l sub forums, and many other forums. I talk alot, and have done quite alot of work with ecigs, and have contributed in many ways. You are stating opinion and it boarders on flaming. The regulated batts and horizontal coil cartos are not the only enhancements made to the kr808 line. Stating v4l has done nothing, then obviously you haven't looked into the king diamond and stealth series, nhaler is constantly working on new items for every type of connection, the list goes on.

Ms. Hollyberry I'm sorry that your thread has turned into this. Was simply trying to give some unbiased help....

Really don't care at this point. Being a regular means nothing. Someone asks you to leave them alone, then leave them alone. You don't own this forum.

If you don't agree with my opinions then move on. If I don't agree with someones opinion, I generally ignore it. I don't sit there like a school hall monitor and follow them around to every sub forum and "correct" everything they say.

I didn't state anything untrue about the two vendors. As for bashing on someone, I didn't bash on you. If Bloog or V4L has an issue with my comments, they can take it up with me. You aren't a referee here.

Find someone else to cling to and leave me out of your posts.

 

[rawrscary]

I prefer the V4L batts because they run at 3.7 not below and the cartos hold up at 3.7 and can be used at 5v without burning issues that some of the other cartos have.If you like to vape at 3.2 and only 3.2 or below than by all means have at it.I just prefer a true 3.7 battery and I dont want to have to buy different cartos to put on my 5v GLV.V4L fills my need.They are constantly improving and trying to make it better.Ask Leaford.He worked for V4L.They sent him to China to work for them before Bloog did.He created that PT for V4L.They turned it down.Before it was the Trifecta,it was called the VK1.Its not about competition and insulting the other company.Its about moving forward and improving vaping for all of us.These petty little spats about who is better is just stupid.It all depends what your looking for and how you like to vape.Everyone has a preference and that doesnt make it right or wrong,just different.As for Morandir,he is an honest person and will tell it like it is.He tests and studies 808s before any opinion is formed.He can always back it up with facts.He tries different brands,tests and compares the results.I respect him for that.OK,rant over.

I thought bloog was 3.7? Maybe I read your post wrong, but it sounds like you're saying they are 3.2?

I'm aware that Leaford was at v4l first. I just haven't seen the improvements continue after he left really. He pretty much made their current lineup. At any rate, the only issue I really have with v4l is that their batteries are not regulated for 3.7. They start out high and slowly go down.

With the cartos I have, they burn the juice until it finally goes down below the 4.2v. That's really the reason I feel they are subpar to bloog's bats.

 

[rschauer]

I thought bloog was 3.7? Maybe I read your post wrong, but it sounds like you're saying they are 3.2?

The Bloog I have is definitely regulated, seems to be about 3.6 - 3.7. I'll double-check when I get home tonight. The Volts are also regulated, but I have seen just a little more variation fresh off the charger; they start out at 3.7 and drop to about 3.6 after a little use, but I haven't noticed them taper off after that. I'm really happy with the regulated batts. They're far superior to the Smoke51 I started on, which was definitely not regulated.

 

[prometheus]

I thought bloog was 3.7? Maybe I read your post wrong, but it sounds like you're saying they are 3.2?

I'm aware that Leaford was at v4l first. I just haven't seen the improvements continue after he left really. He pretty much made their current lineup. At any rate, the only issue I really have with v4l is that their batteries are not regulated for 3.7. They start out high and slowly go down.

With the cartos I have, they burn the juice until it finally goes down below the 4.2v. That's really the reason I feel they are subpar to bloog's bats.

OK people here is the deal. Please ask the companies if you want to verify this and they will. The Bloog batts are 3.6v regulated. The King Diamond and Stealth series are 3.7v reg. I have used both and tested both under load with a multimeter. The bloog starts at 3.9v and drops to 3.6 after 5 hits and then stays there till dead. The v4L starts at 4.2 for 7-8 hits and drops to 3.7v. Bloog cartos are 2.4-2.6ohm and v4L I have not been able to get info on but the bloog give the hotter hit and more vapor with most but not all liquids I have tried. The v4L carto must be a higher ohm because it works better on 5v. At 5v bloog burns juice after a couple hits and v4l carto works better if you don't chain vape otherwise it starts to burn too. The point is they both are designing their batts and cartos to work best with their own equipment duh! If you want to mix and match have fun but its a crap shoot at that point unless you don't want the latest and greatest and then a generic 808 batt tends to work with most 808 stuff out there. Warning! after the last Bloog battery upgrade the v4l cartos barely work on the Bloog but most other 808 cartos do. Which I am sure the company does not care about since they are making it to work with their cartos and not others equipment.

If you want to argue about it please argue with the company as most of this info I got form them... with exception to my carto experience but that's always subjective to the type of fluid, fill technique, cartos batt combo, vape style, and so on.

 

[prometheus]

Thanks! What flavors do you recommend for the Bloog pre-filleds?

A rich nutty tobacco one they have is the 555! It is awesome! Not too much tobacco taste but very clean and rich vape. They also got a new one called "Sorry Please Ignore" or SPI that is supposed to be an almond flavor to it. Reviews have been saying its awesome but I have not tried it yet. I also think their RY4 is very tasty!

 

[Morandir835]

Ms. Hollyberry just want to apologize again for what your thread turned into, please let us know what kind of kr808's you received.

 

[crbrown]

Actually no, it's not my opinion. It's a fact.

V4L is using unregulated batteries that are typical generation one KR808D-1 batteries. Bloog is using newer ones that are regulated and provide better performance in the cartomizer because of it. We all know he used to be at V4L so some of their stuff has improvements, obviously those improvements have not continued since he moved to Bloog.

I really don't need you following me around in every thread trying to "correct" my opinion either. You need to back off already...

They use unregulated batteries because that works best with their vertical coil cartomizers. Nothing wrong with that, just a different vape.

 

[rawrscary]

OK people here is the deal. Please ask the companies if you want to verify this and they will. The Bloog batts are 3.6v regulated. The King Diamond and Stealth series are 3.7v reg. I have used both and tested both under load with a multimeter. The bloog starts at 3.9v and drops to 3.6 after 5 hits and then stays there till dead. The v4L starts at 4.2 for 7-8 hits and drops to 3.7v. Bloog cartos are 2.4-2.6ohm and v4L I have not been able to get info on but the bloog give the hotter hit and more vapor with most but not all liquids I have tried. The v4L carto must be a higher ohm because it works better on 5v. At 5v bloog burns juice after a couple hits and v4l carto works better if you don't chain vape otherwise it starts to burn too. The point is they both are designing their batts and cartos to work best with their own equipment duh! If you want to mix and match have fun but its a crap shoot at that point unless you don't want the latest and greatest and then a generic 808 batt tends to work with most 808 stuff out there. Warning! after the last Bloog battery upgrade the v4l cartos barely work on the Bloog but most other 808 cartos do. Which I am sure the company does not care about since they are making it to work with their cartos and not others equipment.

If you want to argue about it please argue with the company as most of this info I got form them... with exception to my carto experience but that's always subjective to the type of fluid, fill technique, cartos batt combo, vape style, and so on.

Interesting information. You are the first person I've seen that has said v4l are regulated batteries. Everyone else has stated they are using gen 1, unregulated and they start around 4.2 and taper down to whatever they end up at.

I will ask later in the v4l forum just to be safe, but you are the first person I've seen make that claim.

 

[hollyberry]

Ms. Hollyberry just want to apologize again for what your thread turned into, please let us know what kind of kr808's you received.

It's ok, Morandir.

Received them today; they are labeled V2Cigs. Does that make them gen1 or gen2, or do you need more info?

Thanks for all the info & help!

 

[Morandir835]

Ms. Hollyberry those would be gen 1 unregulated batts. Would suggest going with old school single coil cartos. As with all kr808's dual coil cartos can be hit or miss due to the amperage draw it takes to power two coils at once (this includes ce2's), and with horizontal coil cartos if the ohms are too low you risk getting the awful burnt juice flavor (prefer burnt filler to burnt juice personally, though both are horrible). V4l makes great cartos available in medium and low resistance, nhaler has multiple carto options, know plenty of people who swear by ikenvape. If you go the horizontal coil route suggest volt or north carolina vapes first, followed by halo g6 and bloog. A good friend of mine sent me a sample of the ones ncv sells, one came in at 3.1ohm, the other 3.3, and as long as I'm not chain vaping they do pretty well even at 4.2v (though there is still a slight flavor muting compared to vertical coil). Hope this helps.

 

[hollyberry]

Ms. Hollyberry those would be gen 1 unregulated batts. Would suggest going with old school single coil cartos. As with all kr808's dual coil cartos can be hit or miss due to the amperage draw it takes to power two coils at once (this includes ce2's), and with horizontal coil cartos if the ohms are too low you risk getting the awful burnt juice flavor (prefer burnt filler to burnt juice personally, though both are horrible). V4l makes great cartos available in medium and low resistance, nhaler has multiple carto options, know plenty of people who swear by ikenvape. If you go the horizontal coil route suggest volt or north carolina vapes first, followed by halo g6 and bloog. A good friend of mine sent me a sample of the ones ncv sells, one came in at 3.1ohm, the other 3.3, and as long as I'm not chain vaping they do pretty well even at 4.2v (though there is still a slight flavor muting compared to vertical coil). Hope this helps.

Thanks, Morandir! I'm anxious to get some cartos and try these babies out!

 

[Morandir835]

No problem at all Ms. Hollyberry, anxious to hear what you go with and what you think of them.

 

[prometheus]

Interesting information. You are the first person I've seen that has said v4l are regulated batteries. Everyone else has stated they are using gen 1, unregulated and they start around 4.2 and taper down to whatever they end up at.

I will ask later in the v4l forum just to be safe, but you are the first person I've seen make that claim.

Yeah sorry I was typing fast because I was a little bothered by no one helping this user and fighting back and forth about bloog/v4l. To be safe? What are you going to die if its not regulated? Its a battery dude, not a safety harness lol. Not sure if they are regulated or not but based on my multimeter they hold a constant charge at 3.7... As for gen1 and 2 and so on, thats all BS. They have come out with 3 or 4 improvements on there batts so far and other companies have done more. You can call them gen3.5 for all it matters. In the end its about finding equipment that is affordable, works together, and satisfies your cravings. I will be honest, I am a big bloog fan but I use v4l too and they seem to work about the same.

Btw hollyberry the v2cig batts are 4.2v and though I can't get the company to tell me if they are regulated or not I used one about 6 months ago and they work very well. They are about $12-$15 more then other brands though so unless you don't mind paying $30 per batt, I would suggest looking around for a less expensive batt. Their v2 Red flavor cartos are a big hit with many people though. I actually started vaping with Reds but the flavor vanished after a couple weeks of vaping. Still can't taste any flavor from them lol.

Do let us know how you like your new PV

 

[rawrscary]

Yeah sorry I was typing fast because I was a little bothered by no one helping this user and fighting back and forth about bloog/v4l. To be safe? What are you going to die if its not regulated? Its a battery dude, not a safety harness lol. Not sure if they are regulated or not but based on my multimeter they hold a constant charge at 3.7... As for gen1 and 2 and so on, thats all BS. They have come out with 3 or 4 improvements on there batts so far and other companies have done more. You can call them gen3.5 for all it matters. In the end its about finding equipment that is affordable, works together, and satisfies your cravings. I will be honest, I am a big bloog fan but I use v4l too and they seem to work about the same.

Btw hollyberry the v2cig batts are 4.2v and though I can't get the company to tell me if they are regulated or not I used one about 6 months ago and they work very well. They are about $12-$15 more then other brands though so unless you don't mind paying $30 per batt, I would suggest looking around for a less expensive batt. Their v2 Red flavor cartos are a big hit with many people though. I actually started vaping with Reds but the flavor vanished after a couple weeks of vaping. Still can't taste any flavor from them lol.

Do let us know how you like your new PV

To be safe... it's a figure of speech. I'm simply trying to figure out the differences between all these kr808 models. I don't know anything about safety harnesses, sorry.

No one wants to say who they go to for manufacturing, cause apparently it's some giant secret even though 20 different places are selling these, so the alternative is to ask questions, and ask vendors what the stats are of their batteries. All these 808 models, and models trying to copy the Bloog are NOT equal. I'm simply just trying to get to the bottom of it because, well, I'm curious.

The main purpose for all of this is eventually I'm going to do a review on ALL the 808 models and see who lives up to the Bloog both with bats and cartos.

I get that it's easy to make a claim like "oh well they all work good in their own way, bla bla bla..." But I think Bloog has a better quality product than anyone else, and for a good reason. They differ in the fact that they aren't just simply ordering and putting their name on a product. You're a fan of them, so you already know, not going into detail about it... just putting that out there for other people who might read this.

 

[crbrown]

To be safe... it's a figure of speech. I'm simply trying to figure out the differences between all these kr808 models. I don't know anything about safety harnesses, sorry.

No one wants to say who they go to for manufacturing, cause apparently it's some giant secret even though 20 different places are selling these, so the alternative is to ask questions, and ask vendors what the stats are of their batteries. All these 808 models, and models trying to copy the Bloog are NOT equal. I'm simply just trying to get to the bottom of it because, well, I'm curious.

The main purpose for all of this is eventually I'm going to do a review on ALL the 808 models and see who lives up to the Bloog both with bats and cartos.

I get that it's easy to make a claim like "oh well they all work good in their own way, bla bla bla..." But I think Bloog has a better quality product than anyone else, and for a good reason. They differ in the fact that they aren't just simply ordering and putting their name on a product. You're a fan of them, so you already know, not going into detail about it... just putting that out there for other people who might read this.

rawrscary, with all due respect.... Morandir has tried several time to explain the difference between the two, but you keep shutting him down.
I think if you'll do some searching you'll find that Bloog had exclusive rights to this "new" technology from the manufacturer for just a few moths. The deal was if they could meet company's sells requirement then they would maintain the exclusive rights. They were unable to do this, so along came SI, Halo and others.
Of the ones that I have tried, I would say that Halo, SI and Bloog come from the same place. Nhaler and Elite Vaporworks I think might come from a different manufacturer, they say they don't but they really don't preform the same.

V4L is not the same type of 808, they use the vertical coils, and those really do work best with unregulated batteries.