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Haha! I've been looking for some interview recordings ..odd times, you can detect the Yorkshire roots in her accent when she's having a relxed conversation.
In my search though, I found this - and it's so funny!:

...and of course, that made me watch this one...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qtve_6qasU

Oh my! I is da bomb! :unsure: :laugh:
Well I didn't find one of those rare moments of Judi Dench with a light N. Yorkshire accent, but never mind! Probably a long time since she lived in this part of the country.
No matter ..I can 'talk proper' when I need to ;)


I'm still cryin' down here in Florida Pictor!

The first vid (and I LOVE The Graham Norton Show...) is proof that American's are NOT as funny as the Brit's, hands down...

And the second one...all I should have to say is Sauerkraut...bwahahaha

Thank you!
 

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Fun fact, the current Midwest Accent is (probably) what the revolutionary Gentry of England sounded like.
What's an example of mid-west? :)

To be quite honest Pictor, I am unable to differentiate between the many accents in England. To me they all sound the same...AWESOME!!! Yorkshire, Liverpool, Cockney...all the same. :)
Oh dear! All the accents vary within themselves, let alone as separate accents ..and all the above are very different, plus such as Birmingham, Newcastle, Devon, Cornwall.
There are 4 'ridings' of Yorkshire, and all have variations - being the North Riding, mine is probably the mildest.

Thank you for the Graham Norton vids. They were both really funny. Is he still on TV?
Yes, he is - very popular. There's another Youtube one with Judi Dench about a dying fish being resuscitated ..really funny.

Who's wanting you to "talk proper" Pictor? Just talk to us in that English accent. :wub:
There are, and have been times, when I do feel I need to make the effort ...certain places or particular people I've needed to speak to (Frances Shand-Kydd was one such occasion).
At my age, I tend to speak as I wish :laugh: ...but, 'proper' is the correct spoken English: The Queen, Judi Dench etc. ...and in certain company, 'one tries not to let one's accent emerge' :lol:
A lot is down to simple vowel pronunciation, but can make a world of difference.

WOOOOOO! Looking forward to some ACB in 3mg. So excited! I'm going to go home and load some ACB in a tank in celebration :) :banana:
P.S. I'm with Nanny on PBC as well. Bring that sucker back!
I've had both, and they're really good! :)

Sorry Grrrr...it's just not the same on a guy. :)
....depends on who the guy is! Alan Rickman, Ian McKellan, and I've never forgotten seeing & hearing Patrick Stewart sitting in a chair on an empty stage/studio speaking the 'Tears in The Rain' speech from Bladerunner.

I have to say I have an astute ear for accents. I had a student walk in and ask who the teacher was and I said "Hello, that's me. And you are originally from Yorkshire, but do I hear some Brighton in there?" and I got :blink: from her and "My god yes, my husband is from Brighton!"
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Her poor daughter, having just moved here to join her parents in Castle Rock had her teachers recommend that she be in Special Ed because everyone at the school couldn't understand her, they thought she was speaking gibberish. When my student and her husband went to talk with the principal they both suddenly dropped their Americanized accents and went back to their original accents randomly from sentence to sentence. No one understood them with their natural unaffected accents so at the end of their talk with the principal he went :blink: "Yeah.....okay, we will try harder. I didn't really understand most of that....er....." :laugh:
Well I'm not so sure about now, but when we (and our sons) went to school, properly spoken English was taught, and no matter where they came from. most people could speak 'properly' :)

I'm still cryin' down here in Florida Pictor!
The first vid (and I LOVE The Graham Norton Show...) is proof that American's are NOT as funny as the Brit's, hands down...
And the second one...all I should have to say is Sauerkraut...bwahahaha
Thank you!
His shows can be incredibly funny ..and so can she! :laugh:

I lived in England for 4 months back in 2012, in Exeter. I didn't realize how many different British accents there were. Was an interesting experience for sure.
Yes, accents vary a lot for such a relatively small country :)
 

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Speaking of Patrick Stewart, here he is demonstrating the different accents that cows moo, funny stuff.

Sir Patrick Stewart Demonstrates How Cows Moo in Different English Accents | Open Culture

Freakin' hilarious!
I'm crying I'm laughing so hard...a very conservative moo...(cows) cultural conditioning...I'm dyin', he nailed the Nevada cow!

I LOVE the interwebs...thank you Grrrr

I never heard that before! :laugh:
...I think that surely he was taking the proverbial at times too! :facepalm:
 

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Just found out I'm not quite correct, apparently this area's gone through a vowel shift in the relatively recent so...
General American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Interesting, and quite possibly the same thing that evolves and changes everywhere in such subtle ways that it's barely noticed.

But, we've had some variations in speech in recent years, and not all of them are easy on the ear!
We first noticed it with the AQI where every sentence ends in a rising inflection that implies a question ..and that can make a person feel as though they're being rather patronising or questioning the listeners intelligence. It became a fad of the younger generations around 10 years ago I believe. Most seem to have dropped it and moved on to the latest 'fashionable' speech fad.

Another has been the emphasis on letters in the middle of words such as garden, bottle, carton, etc., and those letters are traditionally spoken with a soft expression rather than emphasis.

The most irritating for us has been the ever spreading speech change in younger women - a sort of nasal Essex croak, whether spoken with an Essex accent or not - it grates on us!

I only hope that they soon move on to the next great thing in how to speak :laugh: ...Hmmm ...wonder what it'll be!
Do you find such things happening in US society?
 

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Interesting, and quite possibly the same thing that evolves and changes everywhere in such subtle ways that it's barely noticed.

But, we've had some variations in speech in recent years, and not all of them are easy on the ear!
We first noticed it with the AQI where every sentence ends in a rising inflection that implies a question ..and that can make a person feel as though they're being rather patronising or questioning the listeners intelligence. It became a fad of the younger generations around 10 years ago I believe. Most seem to have dropped it and moved on to the latest 'fashionable' speech fad.

Another has been the emphasis on letters in the middle of words such as garden, bottle, carton, etc., and those letters are traditionally spoken with a soft expression rather than emphasis.

The most irritating for us has been the ever spreading speech change in younger women - a sort of nasal Essex croak, whether spoken with an Essex accent or not - it grates on us!

I only hope that they soon move on to the next great thing in how to speak :laugh: ...Hmmm ...wonder what it'll be!
Do you find such things happening in US society?

I have noticed a trend in "lazy speech". Not properly enunciating to the point that it is more of a mumble. I often tell the speaker that if they wish for me to truly listen to what they have to say, to speak more clearly.
 

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I have noticed a trend in "lazy speech". Not properly enunciating to the point that it is more of a mumble. I often tell the speaker that if they wish for me to truly listen to what they have to say, to speak more clearly.

Oh good god, they are speaking rural Oklahoma :facepalm:

I have relatives who have never met a consonant while speaking....
 

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I have noticed a trend in "lazy speech". Not properly enunciating to the point that it is more of a mumble. I often tell the speaker that if they wish for me to truly listen to what they have to say, to speak more clearly.

Oh good god, they are speaking rural Oklahoma :facepalm:

I have relatives who have never met a consonant while speaking....

I hadn't thought of that as lazy speech, but probably right - is it a legacy of text speak? I used to see people making posts on forums using silly things like 2U instead of to you etc. Suppose with the advent of predictive text they don't need to do that anymore, so have started stringing words together!

I do know that the three generations of my parents, myself and our sons were all taught to speak properly at school, and home, and still do.
I must be getting old because these lazy or fad type ways of speaking are really grating on me. I actually change channels if there's a programme with anyone using those ways of speaking.

The upwards cadence at the end of a sentence is the worst thing to happen to the spoken word, everything is not a question.
I remember watching Stephen Fry having a good rant about that, and I do think it started a decline. There's still people that do it though :(
It often gives me the impression that the speaker is suggesting the listener is not understanding simple statements.

Right now though, it's that awful nasal & gravel throat thing that some younger women are using that really irritates us - used to just be Essex accents that used it but it's spread to 'proper' unaccented English too! Ach! - it's an assault on the aural sensory receptors :lol:

They all need to speak proper like what we all do! ;) :laugh:
 

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I hadn't thought of that as lazy speech, but probably right - is it a legacy of text speak? I used to see people making posts on forums using silly things like 2U instead of to you etc. Suppose with the advent of predictive text they don't need to do that anymore, so have started stringing words together!

I do know that the three generations of my parents, myself and our sons were all taught to speak properly at school, and home, and still do.
I must be getting old because these lazy or fad type ways of speaking are really grating on me. I actually change channels if there's a programme with anyone using those ways of speaking.


I remember watching Stephen Fry having a good rant about that, and I do think it started a decline. There's still people that do it though :(
It often gives me the impression that the speaker is suggesting the listener is not understanding simple statements.

Right now though, it's that awful nasal & gravel throat thing that some younger women are using that really irritates us - used to just be Essex accents that used it but it's spread to 'proper' unaccented English too! Ach! - it's an assault on the aural sensory receptors [emoji38]

They all need to speak proper like what we all do! ;) [emoji23]
My earliest recollection of the upwards cadence was on Aussie soaps like neighbors. It's been downhill ever since.....
 
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