A better ecig?

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Nuck

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I'm not sure where to put this as it's not really a mod but based on some of the creative mods I've seen, I figured this is as good a place as any for it. I don't have any talent in electrical engineering so feel free to shoot it down.

I have found that dripping gives a much nicer vapour and throat hit compared to carts. It is much more consistent as well. The problem is that for mainstream use it is very messy and too crackheadish to appeal to the masses.

My idea is to make dripping idiot proof using the following method:

The cartridge is changed to contain a small nozzle that pierces a bladder that resides in the cartridge. The bladder end that is pierced would be a soft rubber stopper similar to those used in hospital fluids that are extracted using a syringe. The nozzle would spray whenever a small current is applied to it and is situated about the mesh on the atomizer. (I have 401 atomizers which would work quite well).

-The battery remains unchanged

-The atomizer must be able to detect a dry condition (I've seen that this is already a feature in some ecigs).

-Instead of shutting off when the dry condition is detected, the atomizer would apply a small current to the sprayer nozzle for a set amount of time. Time delays could be used to ensure overspray does not occur.

And that's about it. You snap on a sealed cart and you are good for 1-2 ml (based on cart size) of pure juice with no need to ever touch juice. For mass market they could be disposable. For us juicers, we could refill with a syringe without ever spilling a drop.

The advantages that I could come up with are:

-Ease of use...a whole day of vaping without having to refill, drip or top up.

-No cartridge filler burning or heating which comes with very real health risks.

-Much more consistent vapour production.

-Atomizers would never run dry so the life would be much more predicable and long lasting.

-The bladders could be made resistant to rupture so that if a child accidentally swallows one, it is very possible it would pass through without issue.

-Very little extra cost over the current method. In fact it really shouldn't raise the cost at all.

It is even conceivable that a flow monitor could be put on in future versions that could be employed in an NRT.

That's it. Any reasons this isn't feasible that would be problematic to overcome?
 

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A few more points that I didn't clarify.

-The bladder is air tight to ensure all the liquid is used the bladder collapses which will guarantee efficient use of all liquid.

-The edges of the carts should have lengthwise ribs to ensure air flow about the bladder.

-The bladder is anchored to the nozzle to avoid an issue where the bladder could fall to the bottom of the cart and obstruct air flow.
 

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Well conceived idea Nuck. I have had a similar idea on a manual principle. Use the cart for a liquid container and design it kind of like an ink pen clicker. click the cart and it sprays a shot of juice into the atomizer. click as needed. This could be a cart mod with no changes to the battery or atomizer.
As for your idea, I think if you had a chance to meet with the Chinese in their factory you could make it a reality, It deffinitly deserves looking into.
 

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WiηgC¤mmαηdεя;135767 said:
Hey Nuck, some great ideas. I think you should quickly try to patent the idea and then market to the manufacturers.
Has some real potential.

What I'm hoping is that some of the genius modders here come up with a rough prototype to see if its feasible. I'd do it but my background is mechanical (a rather poor choice given the direction the world has gone).

I wonder if one of the timed air freshener nozzles could be used as a ghetto version for testing.

Edit: Open source is the new religion.
 
A piezoelectric transducer is small and able to do the job. It does reuire a small circuit to apply a high frequency voltage though. It then vibrates and will create a mist from any liquid in contact with it. These can be small enough to fit inside a 901 tube. Some air-frsheners use this; small holes in the vibrating surface allow a small amount of liquid to pass through to the other side where it is then vibrated into the air as mist.
 
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