FDA A compromise with the FDA

[Jman8]

This is nothing but an educated guess...

I don't think that Congress can modify the regulations, only pass them or reject them.
I imagine that if they reject them they will tell the FDA why though.

Again, this is just a guess.

After posting what I did, I'm thinking Congress is our best bet. They could put FDA more on defensive, especially if libertarian type of Pubs were to make this an issue of 'big government' and 'job killing/hurting small businesses.'

Us consumers don't seem to stand a chance to influence FDA on that end, and it would seem we are hoping for courts, after the fact, to helps us out. But Congress (just one or two key players) could be vocal, hopefully sooner than later, to help us in our fight and to potentially stand on a winning side, politically speaking.

If we divide up and just each get vocal with our own state representatives, that could work, but I'm thinking more along lines of targeting one to 5 at the most and letting them wield their power to 'change the narrative' that FDA currently seems to be in control of.

Would be very interesting to see a Pub taking up a political cause whereby science is front and center, and then having Dems (who, at the national level, have been vocally against eCigs) be the ones who are avoiding the scientific data to rally their base around political messages with nothing more to them than hot air.

 

[AndriaD]

I can't agree with you on this one, Andria. It is the President who appointed Mitch Zeller, lobbyist for the Big Pharm industry, to oversee the part of the FDA that just published their Deeming Regulations. It is no coincidence that the FDA's attack on vaping started in 2009.

I didn't know that. I have very little idea, really, about how all those 'appointments' work, and how much control/influence the prez may have on those appointed. Our gov't has become the embodiment of an Escher drawing.

Andria

 

[AndriaD]

After posting what I did, I'm thinking Congress is our best bet. They could put FDA more on defensive, especially if libertarian type of Pubs were to make this an issue of 'big government' and 'job killing/hurting small businesses.'

Us consumers don't seem to stand a chance to influence FDA on that end, and it would seem we are hoping for courts, after the fact, to helps us out. But Congress (just one or two key players) could be vocal, hopefully sooner than later, to help us in our fight and to potentially stand on a winning side, politically speaking.

If we divide up and just each get vocal with our own state representatives, that could work, but I'm thinking more along lines of targeting one to 5 at the most and letting them wield their power to 'change the narrative' that FDA currently seems to be in control of.

Would be very interesting to see a Pub taking up a political cause whereby science is front and center, and then having Dems (who, at the national level, have been vocally against eCigs) be the ones who are avoiding the scientific data to rally their base around political messages with nothing more to them than hot air.

I would support that; after giving my support toward the Dem side for the last 7 yrs, I am very disillusioned with them; they appear to have helped dig us ever deeper into a morass we may never escape. I completely hate the "rich white guy" contingent embodied by so much of the republican party, but I know which side of my bread is buttered, and I will be supporting whoever will BOTH work to get rid of Obamacare, and work to support vapers and their e-cigarettes. If Dems are spreading disinformation about e-cigarettes after laughing at the rich religious republican right for ignoring science, that is both hilarious, and the end of my support for the Dems. I just feel this desperate need to holler HOW DARE THEY!!

Andria

 

[wv2win]

I would support that; after giving my support toward the Dem side for the last 7 yrs, I am very disillusioned with them; they appear to have helped dig us ever deeper into a morass we may never escape. I completely hate the "rich white guy" contingent embodied by so much of the republican party, but I know which side of my bread is buttered, and I will be supporting whoever will BOTH work to get rid of Obamacare, and work to support vapers and their e-cigarettes. If Dems are spreading disinformation about e-cigarettes after laughing at the rich religious republican right for ignoring science, that is both hilarious, and the end of my support for the Dems. I just feel this desperate need to holler HOW DARE THEY!!

Andria

Here is several examples of who at the national political level are calling for bans on vaping with the ultimate goal to be the complete destruction of the industry as we know it. You will notice they have one thing in common:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/democratic-senators-e-cigarette-ban-us-capitol-103125.html

Durbin, Democrats Rip E-Cigarettes as 'Candy-Flavored Poisons,' Want Ban on Sale to Children | The World's Greatest Deliberative Body

 

[Kent C]

Here is several examples of who at the national political level are calling for bans on vaping with the ultimate goal to be the complete destruction of the industry as we know it. You will notice they have one thing in common:

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/02/democratic-senators-e-cigarette-ban-us-capitol-103125.html

Durbin, Democrats Rip E-Cigarettes as 'Candy-Flavored Poisons,' Want Ban on Sale to Children | The World's Greatest Deliberative Body

And it was most likely that letter from the 5 Dem Senators that got FDA on their feet and moving. They had been procrastinating for years now and there is no reason to believe they wouldn't have keep going without any action. If Congress balked at instituting anything from the FDA, Executive Orders would do it.