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03ACE

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Just wanted to chime in and say I bought a kGo kit from Hoosier last Thursday night, it arrived Monday, and I LOVE it! I haven't had an cigarette since. My wife still isn't 100% sold that it isn't "smoking", but she is coming around slowly. I told her "hey, I can smell and taste things now, and I don't stink!" She can definitely get behind that.
 
My first experiences with ecigs were much like yours.

I've dumped more money into these than I care to admit.

These were the 901 types or ecigs that look like a cigarette.

Recently I've gone to a mod called the Silver Bullet.

Expensive.

Yes.

Especially when taking into account that I bought the best batts money could buy (AW 18650 3100 mA).

Plus the chargers, carts, tanks, etc.

I love the way this thing hits and the amount of vaper it's putting out.

I'm using a custom blend of liquids that I mix myself (Puresmoker Menthol, Johnson Creek's Tennessee Cured, etc.)

This is what I wish vaping was when I first got into it.

This isn't a lot different than anything else in life: you get what you pay for.

Spend the dough and get yourself a top notch mod. The Silver Bullet I'm sure is not the only one, but simply the only one I can talk about from experience.
 

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Whatever works to help you quit analogs, works! I think most all of us used cigarette sized starter packs, they do fill our need when we start. Price wise there are better PV's for $100 that last longer battery wise. Cartos we learn to fill oursleves so that saves $'s too. But since you like Blu and it is satisfying your need to quit, great! You will move on soon enough, we all did :) Happy vaping! bnrk
 
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This thread reminded me of the "4 stages of vaping" video.

4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

Vaping is battery intensive. The closer your PV is to cig size, the smaller the battery is. And in addition to the battery, you have to have juice.

I did a lot of research before I started, and I started with an eGo-T setup. That got me off the cigs, but I wanted the "perfect" vape. When I first started vaping, I wouldn't have been willing to use a big mod. Now I'm using a lavatube VV mod and a 5ml liquinator tank.

I don't particularly like the size. But I love having a battery that will last me all day, and a tank big enough that filling it once or twice a day (a very quick, easy process) keeps me going. I don't want to constantly mess with it, and I vape a lot. (I smoked a lot, so that isn't a surprise.)

I've never used a Blu, so all I know is their reputation, which isn't very good. It sounds to me like the Blu has shown you that vaping will work, and that you know that the Blu isn't the best way to go about it.
 

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Both Blu batteries died on me last night for the first time. I had been drinking a bit and was chain vaping. Pretty frustrating. Based on everyone's reports I think I made the right choice with the kGo, I just hope I can manage to start SAVING money through this whole transition.

So far what I see everyone saying though is that vamping is more expensive than smoking initially but once you find what works you'll start to see the savings.
 

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The savings will definitely come. I haven't seen savings yet, but I'm keeping my eyes on the $340/mo I was spending on smokes. I had spent $700 on vaping partway through my second month. Probably close to $800 now...but at this point, the only things I really NEED to buy are juices, probably 100-120ml per month and XL cartos to go in my tank, and every now and again a new battery or two. So MAYBE $80/mo at the top end of expenses.
 

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I've tracked every single purchase I've made for vaping.

Before I started vaping, I was smoking over 3 packs a day. 2 cartons a week didn't quite keep me in cigs. I was smoking the cheapest cigs I could find, at about $40 a carton. That's $80 a week, $320 a month.

I've been off the cigs for six months, and had cut down on my cigs quite a bit for a month or two before that. (It took me some time to completely switch - turns out I needed a higher nicotine level before I could drop the cigs for good.)

Six months, * $320 a month is $1,920 that I would have spent on cigs.

What I've spent on vaping is $1,323.28.

That includes the eGo's I started with, a Buzz Pro, a lavatube, a cheapy VV box mod, liquinator tanks, cartomizers, juice, and misc stuff. It includes a tool box that I keep some of my vape-stuff in, and a meter, various battery chargers, extra batteries, a little tiny screwdriver set, a tool to punch cartomizers, all kinds of stuff. So for me, I'm easily $600 ahead after six months. And my savings will start to add up a lot faster, because now that I have everything, and pretty much know what juice I like, I won't be doing so much experimenting, I won't be buying as many mods and tanks, and I have tools, bottles, etc.

Now that I have both knowledge and a good collection of basics, I'm pretty much just buying cartomizers and juice. I vape a lot, but $100 a month from here out will cover almost everything. Eventually, I'll probably want a 2nd lavatube or possibly a provari, but since I already have equipment and backups, I'm in no big rush.

The less you smoked, the harder it is to hit the break even point. Someone who smoked a half pack a day takes longer to recover the getting started costs of vaping, for instance, than me. But they will also likely use less juice, fewer cartomizers/atomizers, etc. In time, they'll come out ahead, too. It just may take a bit longer.

To me, the cost is the secondary reason to switch. Health is more important.
 

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You will enjoy the Kgo. Mountain 55 menthol must mean you are buying from Dark City Vapor. That is the best place to buy the kit. The M55 menthol is probably fine for most people. My wife needed a stronger menthol. DCV also has juices called "Extreme Mint" and "Kitty Kisses" which she preferred over the M55 menthol. My main vape right now is the Mountain 55 (non Menthol).

I can confirm that the Blu cartridges will work just fine. Blu is a 306 type which is has the same threading as a 510 except the outer diameter is slightly smaller for a 306. No worries to use them. Just make sure you don't use any LR cartomizers on the Blu because the battery of the Blu cannot handle very well any cartos with low ohm-age.

Boge are really good cartomizers. I prefer the low resistance 2.0 ohm boges myself. I recommend getting some drip tips to fit the boge cartomizers because it makes it easy to pull off and fill. Also try to get your hands on some Vision Ego Clearomizers Vision Clearomizers which is are great as well. They are easy to fill and hold more liquid.

I did get the 55 Menthol from Dark City Vapors, Bill sent them quickly.

I don't care for the 55 Menthol by itself to replace the Analogs that use/used... It would probably fit the bill once I am completely off the nasty things..So I mixed a 50/50 Johnson Creek Tundra with the 55 Menthol and it's almost perfect for me. The Tundra is 100% VG and 24% and the 55 is 70/30 at 28%, and it's almost just like the analog.. Loving the Kgo, and ordered another for the wife from Bill.
 

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So now two more different types of cigs to add to the mix... it's driving me crazy. The kGo looks nice but again, it just seems inconvenient. Keeping something like that in my pocket seems like it's more prone to lint and damage and leakage. Just looking on sweet-vapes it's not just a matter picking a starter kit...it's WHICH starter kit. Do I want cartomizers or carts and atomizers and do I need drip tips and cleaning kits and doohickeys and whatchamakalits.

Sure, the battery life is great but then I'm taking it apart to put in a different cartridge every 5 smokes or so. Then there's carrying spare cartridges of e-juice in a bigger bulkier package.

I've read through the tutorials on this website and, while helpful, still leaves a lot of room for indecision and dumb impulse purchases that I'll regret as soon as it comes in the mail.

I feel it's either an inferior product or diving into a complex assortment of options. It's a snowball of complexity and money spending to the point of it no longer being a "smoking alternative" but a new hobby altogether and perhaps even an unhealthy obsession/addiction in and of itself.

Vaping has become a hobby for me since quitting analogs...That being said, I use Blu myself..but I also use the Echo-E 1300 from Cropduster901 eCigs, Vaporizers and Supplies Tony is a great guy and I paid half what I did for my PCC kit from the other company. Mass vapor and great flavor from any ejuice I use.
 

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I did the same as everyone else.. Tried the Blu disposables from Walgreens and thought to myself, I could do this. I bought the Premium 100 pack from Blu and my only complaint is the return process for a defective product (The Premium case won't charge) but the actual Blu 100's have allowed me to basically stop smoking. The format is good for certain situaitons and will be good as a backup.

I ordered the KGO from Dark City Vapor and it should be waiting for me when I get home. I am sitting in my hotel room vaping away and thankful that I don't have to go outside to smoke. I had also bought some Tundra from Johnson Creek to refill the Blu Carts, but it's 100% VG and isn't the same as what is in the Blu. I am looking forward to the vapor being produced from the KGO.

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The Wisconsin Frost is closer to what is in the Blu carts..FWIW
 

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Well I just got the kGo today and it's neat. Filling the cartos that came with it was a little tricky. I smell like ejuice. The mountain 55 menthol tastes more like some type of vanilla than anything I thin but the 30ml bottle looks like it'll last me a good long time.

I think I overfilled at first. I got some juice in my mouth and it was pretty gross. I'll have to figure out a way to mark the favors for prefilled cartos too.

The manual said I need to let it stay charged for like 8 hours before using it for 20 mins then charging again for another hour. I this really necessary? They seem to have a charge now and I can only charge 1 battery a time.
 

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Well I just got the kGo today and it's neat. Filling the cartos that came with it was a little tricky. I smell like ejuice. The mountain 55 menthol tastes more like some type of vanilla than anything I thin but the 30ml bottle looks like it'll last me a good long time.

I think I overfilled at first. I got some juice in my mouth and it was pretty gross. I'll have to figure out a way to mark the favors for prefilled cartos too.

The manual said I need to let it stay charged for like 8 hours before using it for 20 mins then charging again for another hour. I this really necessary? They seem to have a charge now and I can only charge 1 battery a time.

I know right!!! and you wanna vape NOW!!! I'm not sure about the KGO, but I charged my Echo and fired it right up. One of the KGO Gurus should be able to help with that. But CONGRATS!!!!
 

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Well I just got the kGo today and it's neat. Filling the cartos that came with it was a little tricky. I smell like ejuice. The mountain 55 menthol tastes more like some type of vanilla than anything I thin but the 30ml bottle looks like it'll last me a good long time.

I think I overfilled at first. I got some juice in my mouth and it was pretty gross. I'll have to figure out a way to mark the favors for prefilled cartos too.

The manual said I need to let it stay charged for like 8 hours before using it for 20 mins then charging again for another hour. I this really necessary? They seem to have a charge now and I can only charge 1 battery a time.

Flavors that you do not like should be set aside or sent to me! A week or two often changes the taste and you may enjoy it later. Also your taste or ability to taste may come and go for a while. Sometimes you won't be able to taste anything at all for a few days. All part of the changeover process. Mixing flavors in small amounts sometimes salvages something you don't like.

Juice mouth! Also part of the process. Lol

Disregard the 8 hours part. Doesn't seem to make any difference. Newer batteries have a different chemical composition it seems. (Just a guess).

Enjoy!
 

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i totally see now why people would advise against the blu. the value just isn't there. with this it's like every vape is good, whereas the blu battery just...sucked.

awesome. sucks i spent a bunch of money on the blu but i'm clearly not the only one, and at least i can still use all those blu carts on this.

thanks to everyone for the help.
 

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Well I just got the kGo today and it's neat. Filling the cartos that came with it was a little tricky. I smell like ejuice. The mountain 55 menthol tastes more like some type of vanilla than anything I thin but the 30ml bottle looks like it'll last me a good long time.

I think I overfilled at first. I got some juice in my mouth and it was pretty gross. I'll have to figure out a way to mark the favors for prefilled cartos too.

The manual said I need to let it stay charged for like 8 hours before using it for 20 mins then charging again for another hour. I this really necessary? They seem to have a charge now and I can only charge 1 battery a time.

Which cartridge did you get juice in your mouth? The ones that come with it arent very good and cause that if you fill them more than half full. I am guess the filling is not very good. The boges you can fill them up full and will unlikely have that problem if done right.

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So now two more different types of cigs to add to the mix... it's driving me crazy. The kGo looks nice but again, it just seems inconvenient. Keeping something like that in my pocket seems like it's more prone to lint and damage and leakage. Just looking on sweet-vapes it's not just a matter picking a starter kit...it's WHICH starter kit. Do I want cartomizers or carts and atomizers and do I need drip tips and cleaning kits and doohickeys and whatchamakalits.

Sure, the battery life is great but then I'm taking it apart to put in a different cartridge every 5 smokes or so. Then there's carrying spare cartridges of e-juice in a bigger bulkier package.

I've read through the tutorials on this website and, while helpful, still leaves a lot of room for indecision and dumb impulse purchases that I'll regret as soon as it comes in the mail.

I feel it's either an inferior product or diving into a complex assortment of options. It's a snowball of complexity and money spending to the point of it no longer being a "smoking alternative" but a new hobby altogether and perhaps even an unhealthy obsession/addiction in and of itself.

I've been an EGO user for nine months and just ordered the KGO Ego Mega Dual Coil Kit today. With this you could fill the carto with a couple ml of juice in the morning, drop it in your purse (I have been known to store my EGO in my bra!) and go - no more fussing all day. Add another ml or two after work and you are good for the evening. It doesn't get any more fuss free than that, and it's very satisfying with the right juice. I have been using the EGO Mega cartos on my Ego for several months and will never go back to those small carts that you have to top off constantly. Just switching to the KGO for the more consistent power (no drop off as the battery gets low).
 
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