Nice thought, but while it may help cut down on the airborne viral and bacterial load, most cold and flu viruses are spread via contact, either through contaminated surfaces infected persons have touched, or by contact with airborne microdroplets coughed or sneezed out by infected persons. PG wouldn't help with either of those, only with pathogens that are themselves airborne.I thought that with the advent of the flu season it would be a good idea to keep bumping this thread so as to keep the benefits of vaping foremost in our minds. I started vaping in March and normally by now I would have had some kind of respiratory illness at least once since then. So far, I'm good! Colds and flu have come and gone in my household and at work and in the past being a smoker would have put me at the front of the line to get sick too but I haven't. It's so galling to believe that we have found a simple remedy (can't say c***) for one of the worlds dread diseases and it isn't recognized as such by any government or health organization. We just have to spread the word ourselves people! I think I will get some PG just to have on hand so my family can vape next time they get sick.
Your link was broken, was it this study, by any chance? Mary Ann Liebert, Inc. - Journal of Aerosol Medicine - 20(4):417interesting "From previous clinical trials with aerosolized CsA propylene
glycol (CsA-PG), it has been concluded that a CsA-PG
peripheral lung deposition of approximately 5 mg or higher
would be beneficial in preservation of lung function..."
Mary Ann Liebert, Inc. - Cookie absent
Just received this from FDA Medwatch:
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Please find attached the Dear Healthcare Professional letter from Dr. Margaret Hamburg, Commissioner of Food and Drugs, thanking healthcare providers for their efforts during the 2009 H1N1 influenza outbreak. The letter also addresses questions of vaccine safety and availability. [/FONT]
[FONT=verdana,arial,helvetica,sans-serif]Maybe we should let her know that vaping PG may help prevent the flu?[/FONT]
Then how do we explain the earlier studies regarding PG and viruses?
I wouldn't really expect it to. Basically it acts on viruses and bacteria that are suspended in the air, killing them before you can inhale them. I can't see how it could have an active effect on pathogens already in your body. It gets absorbed by the lungs, and metabolized into phyrric acid and lactic acid, it doesn't circulate through your system.What about the effect of PG in your body? Does it help inhibit the virus from spreading, giving your body an edge to fight it?
I have just spent a lot of time reading about tooth regeneration, tooth looseness and causes of gum disease, and one of the things repeatedly warned against was glycerine, which is added to most toothpastes. Glycerine supposedly leaves a coating on the tooth and pushes away the gum line. I've been vaping for about 4 months, using PG based juice, and draw off of the right side of my mouth, now I notice that I have more recession of the gum line on those teeth right in line with the vapor during draw. Another thing brought up again and again is the drying out conditions in the mouth causing gum hygiene to suffer, and we all know that vaping does dehydrate you. As much as I hate to ask a counter productive question about vaping, "Is it attacking out teeth and gums, especially the VG base?" If so, is there methods to counteract whatever dings the vapor might inflict?
I know it's a bad time to be suggesting anything but the positive of vaping and health, but I had to ask this question. Bob
Hi everyone. Dr Steel23 here.
I just found this thread and would like to comment. As in all medical fields, there is often a large discrepancy between the "holistic approaches" and true evidence-based clinical practice.
The information you have been reading is, unfortunately, anecdotal at best and drivel at worst. The man with the PhD who preaches it is a joke who I'd guess holds stock in the soap that he wants you to brush with.
Glycerin in toothpaste does NOT recede your gumline or ruin your teeth. Nor does it leach fillings or loosen teeth. Glycerin in oral products is used mainly for its lubricating properties with no ill effect. As one small example, my oral surgeon colleague and I often treat radiation patients suffering extreme dry mouth due to a complete loss of their salivary gland function. We supplement their treatment with a water/glycerine mixture and combined with proper hygiene, their oral improvement is rapid.
But glycerin is not the demon you believe it to be. Your loosening tooth and receding gum line are from other problems. See your dentist.
On the suggest of vaping, I cant give you long-term data because there is none. I am also unaware that vaping would dehydrate you. But if you insist on vaping and find that it dries your mouth severely, ask your dentist for a bottle of Biotene (which coincidentally, also has PG in it) and rinse with it periodically. It won't hurt you.
Hope this helps.