A idea for a new type of e-cig

[bigpayne69]

A quick background on myself, I spent 11 years in the Marine Corps as an Electronics Tech and I started playing with electronics several years before that. But any who, with all this debate about pros and cons of wick material, I came up with an idea for a completely wickless e-cig and wanted to get some feed back on it.

The idea is to use 2 separate chambers. one is a storage tank for the fluid and the second is a small enclosed area with the coil in it.

The second change is the power system. instead of just applying 3-5 VDC to a coil for a duration of time, I want to use a compositor that could be charged of as little as 1.5 VDC and then discharged into the coil at like 50-100 VDC to flash vaporize the liquid in the vapor chamber.

Do ya'll think it could work and more impotently, does anyone know if something like this already exists?

 

[Moogle]

I say go for it. Sounds awesome. I fiddle around with a soldering iron from time to time and took AC/DC fundamentals about forever ago so I can't help you with the engineering. I think you can also vaporize liquid ultrasonically too. This sounds cheaper and easier to produce. Hmmmmm..... Interesting idea.

 

[Xcighippy]

I would say go for it, but would caution you to not post about it on open forums before you have developed and patented it to protect you from someone stealing your great idea!

 

[CarlosGraves]

Sounds legit

 

[onion456]

im a skeptic, sorry.

i love to design and build things. my big question is how. how are you going to bump up the voltage. how are you going to mist liquid into the atomizer. how is your coil going to survive 100v, and for how long. is it going to be a continuous feed, or do you get a 1 millisecond hit? how are you going to machine this, sounds pretty high tech to me.

please prove me wrong, i have a pretty small mind so it shouldnt be that hard to do i guess... i just cant wrap my head around all the issues. and im not trying to be condescending, heck i'll help ya if you have a sound theory and some idea on how to go about it.

 

[bigpayne69]

Thanks for the advice but to be honest, right now I'm still purely in the conseptual stage and I intentionally left out some pretty important details so if someone did try to steal it, they would catch hell trying to make one

 

[Vapoor eyes er]

LOLLLL sure take a Chinese based company to court over patent infringement. You could always ask New Balance how that went. Nephew and myself are in the midst of designing a new mod but prolly won't release it cuz Chinese would just clone it, use cheap slave labor and flood the Mkt with it. We also have designed a new wickless delivery system. Not completely finished but getting there.

 

[SmellYaLaterCigs]

I didn't understand any of the technical stuff you said in the OP

However, I think new ideas are a good thing. I say go for it!

 

[BigBen2k]

Hard to give an opinion, but plenty of room for speculation.

I say no, it won't work: e-liquids are sensitive to temperature, and flash vaporizing them is more likely to leave a burnt taste.

I have an idea for what would work, but it would likely be large and expensive, and still require playing with buttons or dials.

 

[Rickajho]

Except for the 100 VDC it pretty much sounds like a pump cart and a pseudo-bridgeless atty. Firefly kits worked that way.

 

[Fizzpop]

Might be worth a prototype. But I'm of the mind that an ultrasonic e-cig would be the next big leap forward in e-cig tech.

 

[bigpayne69]

As for onion, thank you for your input. I have identified some of those same issues and have come up with ways to solve some of them but some problems really can't be addressed until I have a some sort of rudimentary prototype made. I can theorize all day long but some issues are better left to trial and error.

 

[bosun]

A bit of wire from an old toaster and a capacitor?

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

A quick background on myself, I spent 11 years in the Marine Corps as an Electronics Tech and I started playing with electronics several years before that. But any who, with all this debate about pros and cons of wick material, I came up with an idea for a completely wickless e-cig and wanted to get some feed back on it.

The idea is to use 2 separate chambers. one is a storage tank for the fluid and the second is a small enclosed area with the coil in it.

The second change is the power system. instead of just applying 3-5 VDC to a coil for a duration of time, I want to use a compositor that could be charged of as little as 1.5 VDC and then discharged into the coil at like 50-100 VDC to flash vaporize the liquid in the vapor chamber.

Do ya'll think it could work and more impotently, does anyone know if something like this already exists?

What kind of power are you looking to push. Ohms law 100vdc at (what resistance) would be safe to vaporize without absolutely cooking the e-juice?

It would be almost like a "sparkplug" effect...little lightening bolt and instant vapor, but would A. the nicrome coil be able to withstand the heat B. would it exceed the carmelizing temperature of the e-juice

Definitely an interesting idea...

2841 here as well 92-98
Semper Fi

 

[Ryedan]

I also don't think this can work as described. The sparkplug idea struck me too. There is flash evaporation, but that is a completely different thing. I don't believe flash vaporizing will work with heat from a coil. It takes time for heat to transfer into a material. Just my 2 cents.

 

[BigBen2k]

Ultrasonics have been tried; they were the first e-cigs. Failed miserably, and draw way too much power.

You'd have better luck with a piezo element, if you can get it to work reliably.

 

[WarHawk-AVG]

Might be worth a prototype. But I'm of the mind that an ultrasonic e-cig would be the next big leap forward in e-cig tech.

Micronise the inductive "cooking pads" (NuWave) this way you have a metal puck inside the wicking material...hit the button, heat the little metal puck under the wick to get your vapor (only problem is gotta make sure it doesn't heat filling or rings or whatever!!!!)
Induction cooking - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[BigBen2k]

Induction doesn't work well on this scale. It also uses way too much power.

 

[Lunalovelace]

Sounds pretty gnarly.
The only thing I've seen even remotely like a double chamber would be a tank with a separated wall, so you could vape two flavours at once, that's the only sort of thing I've seen even slightly similar, even though they aren't comparable at all! So your concept seems to be very innovative and useful, if its achievable.

 

[brawndo]

the "misting" sounds like the original design of the ecig by ryan, or ryuan? Check out the google patents, and maybe in wiki it seems like I remember coming across something like that, not the full design your talking about but it might give you some ideas to put into it.