A little frustrating. Actually really frustrating

[TheReign]

My dad Smokes about two packs of marlboros errday, and i've been trying to convince him to get into vaping so he can quit the habit and get to a healthier alternative. BUT he's sooooo convinced that it's a more expensive habit than smoking analogs. Trying to get across to him that i've saved alot of money doing this, while not having to spend a whole .... ton of money doing so. He STILL is convinced it's too expensive for him and keeps pushing me to look into studies that have been done about it.

While the mean time i tell him that theres is only four factors really.. PG/VG/nicotine/flavoring, when using organic juice an what not it cant be as bad as smoking. ACTUALLY I KNOW it's not as bad as smoking the couple thousand of additives and chemicals involved in analogs. Not to mention formaldehyde, paint thinner, fiberglass, the list goes on. It's so frustrating to the point I feel like giving up trying to get him to open his eyes to it.

You dont have to keep buying things all the time to keep vaping. You sure as cake save money with juices and tanks that can last a long time.


He doesn't get it, doesn't seem to care about understanding a thing about it. I've only been smoking since 15 and im 20 now almost 21. I might seem a little young, but that doesn't mean that I haven't researched topics about vaping, juices etc. Smoking for only 5 or so years i know exactly the damage it can do to a body. I'm young and i'll recover quick if i take care of myself. But he's not getting any younger and honestly, I just want him to quit smoking cause he has the smokers cough, smells like stinkies, hacks an all those GREAT things.

Sorry to rant about it here, but I just don't know what to do at this point. the constant back and forth of how i spend to much money (which i dont) and how bad it is for you (which isn't as bad as smoking obviously) just a little frustrated.

 

[ScottP]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

 

[Topacka]

You can lead a horse to water...

 

[Topacka]

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Damn you..

 

[ScottP]

damn you..

LoL











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[TheReign]

Lol i know right? just figured i'd rant a little to see if anyone has had similar stories with success.

 

[Iffy]

Ianreign,

First off, no one will switch to vaping without a true desire to minimize/quit 'bakky.

Second, at this point, his reluctance and suspicions are just as strong as your enthusiasm for vaping.

Just vape on without pressuring him. Educate when possible with the various studies and print out some CASAA material to leave around. Just be prepared to assist if he ever shows interest.

And do not beat yourself up if he fails to appreciate your intentions!

Good luck to you and your Dad...

 

[ScottP]

Seriously to the OP, the best thing is to make a list of ALL your vaping purchases and prices to get a total spent then show the total to your dad and ask how much he spent smoking in the same time period.

 

[Miira]

He'll quit when he's ready and harassing him isn't going to make him ready any faster.

 

[Baditude]

Some people are just stubborn. And afraid to quit smoking.

Smoking not only has a strong physical impact, it has a very deep psychological impact working, too. A cigarette is very much like an adult pacifier. It gives comfort during times of stress. It always satisfies the cravings which it was responsible for creating in the first place. To be without a cigarette would be like losing his best friend.

I don't really have a good solution to your problem. You can provide all the information about the dangers of smoking and how vaping can be a satisfying alternative to cigarettes, but unless he's ready to learn it will fall on death ears and blind eyes. Sometimes it takes a Life Changing Event to make a change in attitude. Something like a heart attack or a stroke, a close friend coming down with cancer, or a close relative dying.

I was pretty much the same as your father. I truly thought that I'd die with a cigarette in my hand. I'd tried all the other stop-smoking alternatives and all of them failed miserably. Then one day I saw my very first e-cigarette at the convenience store. A disposable. Out of curiosity I bought one to try it out. It wasn't great, but it wasn't that bad either. It aroused my curiosity more to do some research on the internet and I found ECF.

By an erie coincidence, that very same week my mother (who was in previously good health) came down with cancer. Within a week she died. This was totally unexpected and affected me greatly. This was my Life Changing Event. My mother's sudden and unexpected death made me realize my mortality and if I didn't quit smoking with my new-found e-cigarettes I would be following my mother to the grave.

I made the transition from cigarettes to e-cigarettes in a weeks time. I haven't touch a cigarette since, and I can proudly say I haven't missed them at all. I no longer have my morning hacker's cough, and I'm actually saving a lot of money by not smoking.

Good luck to you and your father. Hopefully he'll come around to the idea before its too late.

 

[crxess]

Worse thing you can do is pressure him.

People just do not like being told what they need to do.

Relaxed conversations are good. Sharing your experiences are a plus. Letting him see how Vaping is helping you.
But making it all about him and his need to switch will just stress him and make him back away.

In your case it is the Child trying to tell the parent what to do.(in his eyes)

 

[Miira]

Remember, before vaping was a thing, there were many options to help quit smoking and many of us refused to try them. Addiction is a powerful thing and no one can fight the battle for you.

 

[Rocketpunk]

Sadly, for those deeply entrenched in decades upon decades of smoking, it takes a tragic event to spur any kind of action into quitting. Even more sadly, those stubborn older smokers will just not give it up, no matter how horribly wrong things can (and will) go. With some people, you just got to let them be. Sometimes the harder you try, the more resistant they will become. It's only on you to introduce the idea and present the facts; it's up to them to make the choice. And again, sadly, you can't force anyone you love to do something they're not ready or willing to do. And it hurts to watch. I understand, OP, I understand.

 

[Grimwald]

I could be your father, Luke.

I'm 61, but I was very ready to quit.I also know that I rarely take advice from my whippersnapper children. Just saying.

I think that you should continue to show him what you are doing (without preaching) and hopefully he will become more interested in joining in. I'm always interested in what my kids are doing so you never know...

 

[Vermonster13]

Give him an inexpensive setup and let him try it. No pressure on him, just let him see if he likes it. Then talk about money if decides he does. When he's ready he'll let you no if ever.

 

[TheReign]

I'm not preaching or harassing him in any way honestly. If anything he's the one who harasses me when im tinkering/rebuilding my mods. Im not the type of person to force anything upon anyone unless they truly interested in doing so. Everytime he has something to say about my doings I just come back to him saying " it's really not as expensive as you think " or " Im actually saving money in the long run of things" stuff like that. and it's true. it's only been a month of non smoking for me and i have honestly saved money as it is. two mods 3 clearos two of which came with a mod. and one RDA. besides the juices which lasts a long time in rotation give or take my vaping. And i can't say that i understand the point of view as the adult being told from the child but i get the idea.

just gonna have to keep truckin along an see what happens

 

[bosun]

If he is like me, point out how much tax he is paying on cigarettes, and how the various governments allow him to be abused as a smoker. Read some recommendations about simple, inexpensive, minimum fiddle with 'e-cigs' and buy him a kit with some juice he might like. Maybe it will sit in a drawer for years, maybe he'll try it. Up to him what he does...annoying him will just make him dig his heels in...me, I was one obstinate bastiche for the longest time when it came to quitting the coffin nails!!!

 

[RoseB]

Been there done that you can't force it on anyone. You can talk till you're blue in the face, show off gear, share success stories, and ultimately it's a personal choice a person has to make for themselves. I understand the frustration and heart ache of watching someone continue to smoke, and watching their health fade. Sorry you're having to go through it.

 

[Bolivar]

If he uses a computer, steer him here. Let him see how many 30-40 year heavy smokers quit for himself.

As one of the above, I'm amazed. I gave up a 40 year habit and the equipment cost less than the price of a carton of smokes. A month of supplies cost about what he spends in 3 days for cigarettes.

 

[jrenae4]

I'm truly sorry for what you're going through. I feel the same way about my mother. She will be that lady in the commercial smoking the cigarette through the hole in her neck A trip to Disney World is what started my interest in vaping, honestly. I didn't want to be chained to my analogs with so few designated smoking areas. She bought a Blu for the trip but never uses it anymore. That was back in August. I finally gave up my last few analogs this past weekend (still going strong! Pray for me LOL) and I'm hoping maybe if she sees it work for me it will interest her. I'm honestly not holding my breath or anything. It's sad because she has my daughter in her life, I'd like her to be around to see her grow up, but I don't see it happening sadly.