Boge cartos suck for an 808d! Grrr... They get too much play on ECF (because they're good for other batteries I guess)
... I'm still mad I guess at the $30 dollars I wasted at LF buying them! Their own website says they should sit overnight-- because their filling is like a box of rocks! Get Bloog horizontal cartos for the 808d and you will be happy! I can fill them and be vaping in 5 min... As for reuse: I filled one at least 6 times last week and then chain dripped on it at a party for like 4 hours... I refilled the same one today like 4 times and it's like new...