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Agent78

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"The way I see it, generalized"
[disclaimer] this is solely MY take on Ecig Bans. It's opinion. I'd like feedback, good or bad.




The following began with me wanting to rant, but than I had to just verbalize what is probably a fairly common school of thought.




Ok. Why? What. In. Gods. name...... IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE. I've been following these proceedings from the US. My opinion is that as goes the UK, so goes the rest if the civilized west. We are here in the US, watching on pins and needles with the EU decisions. We wait in horror, hanging on the every snippet if news regarding "Big Tobacco" ( and big they are) and the insanely corrupt FDA. So instead of spilling into a 2 hour rant about how huge companies that throw around serious $$ and even more serious lawyers are just too much. Although there are power in numbers, money talks...bull.... walks. Even the most dogged and determined freedom fighters would likely shrug in submission at the mere thought of going to war with The Almighty Dollar.

In my opinion, here in the US, I feel like the best case scenario would be for big tobacco a.k.a. R.J. Reynolds a.k.a. Philip Morris to join the ECig movement instead of destroying it because their quarterly profits may have skewed 1.8%. I said I wouldn't rant but on that subject lastly remember that it's not corporations or even government that control these kinds of decisions. the individual shareholders rule all. And yes, here in the center of the Capitalist Mecca, the US, cash is king. Always will be. Now onto the actual point of my post. The division makers and decision makers and even lawmakers are overlooking something very important.


"The Nutshell"
It can often be elusive, but this battle would be over if....... COMMON sense were present. Let us take a step back from the entire issue at hand. Say, a spectator of sorts. We'll call him John Q Public. He sees that there is a product, we'll call it product C. Product C has been studied extensively since the 1960's. We KNOW that it kills thousands every year. We KNOW millions have died as a direct result from using product C. That being said, Mr. Public has often pondered the moral ethics involved when pontificating the idea, ESPECIALLY in such a sterile, politically correct and "nannified" culture we find ourselves in, where in the center of the free world, NYC, your told how much soda you can purchase. Hooray health!!

I digress. John Q Public, while unsure about the thinking behind such idiotic legislation, remembers his old buddy from college. His name, COMMON sense!! See, Mr. sense told John that the combination of a tax-paying, privately owned business, an adult of consenting age, and this free country which has historically placed "free enterprise" on a pedestal, all make for a situation in which entity A can exercise his God-given right to eat, drink, or consume whatever the ....... he wants. Likewise, entity B, also exercises their right to enter into a legitimate business, and sell product C. Simple philosophy. Supply and demand. For the sake of sanity, I will bypass further ethical questions raised about the dangers of product C.


Flash forward. John Q Public is made aware of a new product. All the rage. (Literally) Its called product V! How exciting. But it gets better. You see, product V fulfills a need for many folks. Product C has been cancerizin' Johnny Public and many of his peers. Johnny, ever the patriot, wanted to let the makers of Product C know, in no uncertain terms, that "I hate your .......ned product. It's been nothing but grief since day 1. While I am now angered by your product, I would defend with my life your right to do so. Because I'm quite aware of the meaning of terms like Freedom, Liberty, And the rights of free men. I'm AMERICAN, .......nit, and many many good men died to preserve these unalienable rights which cannot be taken away. Including the right to buy, sell, and consume whatever the hell I want.


Back to new & improved Product V! It helps a staggeringly large number of people stop using Product C. It's less expensive, it's considerably less hazardous, although entity FDA-holes told us that its naughty to actually "claim" it's safer. Atlas shrugged. Then product V starts experiencing growth and gaining momentum as an actual viable substitute, all the while literally saving the lives of John Q Publics peers, with help from good people. These peers are often MORE interested in saving lives, paying forward the knowledge that an alternative to Product C exists, and they would love to share the knowledge with anyone who suddenly feels the urge to not get emphysema and drop dead. Best of all, many things associated with product V are fun. Lots of fun acquiring V and V's various accessories. That in turn, creates wealth!


Records #s of small business's begin to pop up everywhere. Best of all, those entrepreneurs can rest easy at night knowing that money's coming in, and their saving lives!! (Except the predator companies; you know who u are. #whitecloudgreensmokesV2regal)
So, Johnny P has suddenly found a passion that's a healthy alternative to product c. Johnny is a pretty smart fella... He is grateful for V, but also respectful of C's operation. See, like it or not, Product C has every bit the right to sell glass flavored razor blades. In the Capitalist set of ideals, ideals from our forefathers. In short, don't like? Don't buy. Such a Zen, brilliant notion! Free enterprise, in such context, entails that our oppressors, oops, I mean government, should take a break from brutalizing the backsides of John P, and friends. Suddenly the very institution whom Johnny has supported, in concert with some of the very greedy, ....-hurt death merchants, is shattered. One state or country at a time, the ultimate end-game begins with a ground war. Chaos ensues!!! Big C....much...to...powerful. FDA holes posturing to strike when the price is right. Poor John Q Public.

"Why? I mean, don't they have enough money already? 80 billion bucks a quarter not cutting it?? Their going after the very thing that saved so many lives, and intruding into MY philosophy, my passion! There must be more John Q Publics out there that feel scared and confused? And 1-800-ASK GARY won't cut it" WHOA!!!! Revelation! Duh! Why didn't I think of this before. My college buddy, Common Sense?!?! Why, if anyone can make some sense out of this half-......ed ....-show, he can. Ill call him....hmmm. He always picks up. I'm worried! The truth hit me like a ton of bricks. He...he's . No it can't be. Indeed, he is gone. Ladies and Gentleman, I regret to inform you, common sense is gone. It's like he just disappeared, vaporized.


Ah, full circle. In conclusion, I must address those bleeding heart, special interest lobbying, political favor giving, money starving miserable gluttons. In the words of the great Les Grossman. "First of all, Mr. Constitution killer........ Take about 2 steps back, and literally ..... YOUR OWN FACE"!!!!


This has been an editorial/human interest piece, I've never written or published anything, so pardon the continuity errors. Thanks for reading!!
Jason Keenan-Tampa FL

EDIT: for the staggering wall of text,(sorry) paragraphs!!!
 
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mooreted

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The night is black, without a moon.
The air is thick and still.
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill.

Features distorted in the flickering light,
Faces are twisted and grotesque.
Silent and stern in the sweltering night,
The mob moves like demons possesed.
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right,
Confident their ways are best.

The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will.
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill.

They say there are strangers who threaten us,
Our immigrants and infidels.
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves,
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves.

Quick to judge,
Quick to anger,
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand.

Rush - Moving Pictures - Witch Hunt
 

Barbara21

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I really would have liked reading the OP's rant and rave, but I refuse to read walls of text. :facepalm: They hurt my eyes. I'm older and my vision is not as good as it once was. Next time learn to separate paragraphs by hitting the enter button. I do hope you feel better after your vent, though.

In all fairness, I have this same problem. When starting a thread on this forum, my 'enter' key won't work (and I end up with blocks of text). The only way I can get paragraphs is by 'editing' my message - then the 'enter' button works.

When I'm *replying* to a thread (like now), the 'enter' button works fine.

I have no idea why it does this.
 

zyglrox

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This has been an editorial/human interest piece, I've never written or published anything, so pardon the continuity errors. Thanks for reading!!
I call BS. Surely, you at least write to yourself in your mind. Tell me, do you think in abstract paragraphs? To be able to just throw something like that out as someone who's never written seriously before would be unprecedented. After reading this and knowing nothing else about you, I am left only with the conclusion that you have the creativity and fever that it takes to become a great writer. Your ideas and capacity to let the words pour out betells your latent abilities as a writer. I bet it was harder to whittle it down than it was for you to write it out. The best writers write three times as much as they need to and then carve sculptures from the slabs of text. That's why I won't ask you to apologize for the wall of text. There's real potential in this. I actually kind of appreciate it. Now, if you could only work on brevity, others would appreciate it as well! I feel like you could boil this down to a couple of GOLDEN paragraphs if you took a day to sit down and pick away at it.
 
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Talyon

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The night is black, without a moon.
The air is thick and still.
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torchlit hill.

Features distorted in the flickering light,
Faces are twisted and grotesque.
Silent and stern in the sweltering night,
The mob moves like demons possesed.
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right,
Confident their ways are best.

The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will.
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill.

They say there are strangers who threaten us,
Our immigrants and infidels.
They say there is strangeness to danger us
In our theatres and bookstore shelves,
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves.

Quick to judge,
Quick to anger,
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand.

Rush - Moving Pictures - Witch Hunt

Mr.Peart at his best. My fav band.

Ty OP very much enjoyed this read.
 

JimzDogz

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I agree with what you stated in your post Agent 78. I'm sorry to see that you got ripped by the grammar police. Don't be put off. You'll find their are many cruising this forum, just looking for something to critique. I guess they have to feed their narcissism some way. I feel the urge to rant myself, but I will refrain. I'll leave it with a couple of definitions from The Dogz Dictionary.
Ignorance - a persons in ability to recognize ones own misgivings/shortcomings
Stupidity - a persons unwillingness to address and correct those misgivings/shortcomings once they become evident
You my friend, I don't believe to be either.
 

RedhatPat

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Jimz, I agree with you because I've been abused by grammar police (long before ECF) but after perusing the comments I believe they were only referring to the OP's use of no page breaks, translating into a wall of text for some folks especially if you come to ecf land often enough paragraphs become your friend. Some folks may also have reading disabilities that may make reading everything in one go more difficult if it's not broken up into paragraphs, so I have to agree with them too.

RHP
 

e-pipeman

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You're quite right. There's no logic to the way the powers-that-be are handling e-cigs currently. If they are saying that, in the UK, nicotine is to become a medicinal product then so must cigarettes, cigars and pipe tobacco, surely? Perhaps this way lies salvation - they will NEVER class cigarettes as a medicinal product, therefore they will not succeed in court when they try to force e-cigs into a medicine-shaped hole. :)
 

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as you referred to atlas shrugged, in theory this is a free enterprise, and everyone should be able to vote not with politics but with his wallet. if this was the case the ecig business should be growing at a much rapid pace but big tobacco and pharma, which are monopolies not of the free market but political ones (free market monopolies tend to grow only by means of the benefit they are giving their customers as opposed to the political ones that grow using manipulation of the laws in their favor aka $$) that are doing what they do best, keep on top not by being the best, but by stomping the better alternatives.
I know all of us here tend to vote with our wallets here on this issue, knowingly or not. the problem is that the big's have the media on their hands to not let the people in need to find out there is a way...
 

mooreted

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as you referred to atlas shrugged, in theory this is a free enterprise, and everyone should be able to vote not with politics but with his wallet. if this was the case the ecig business should be growing at a much rapid pace but big tobacco and pharma, which are monopolies not of the free market but political ones (free market monopolies tend to grow only by means of the benefit they are giving their customers as opposed to the political ones that grow using manipulation of the laws in their favor aka $$) that are doing what they do best, keep on top not by being the best, but by stomping the better alternatives.
I know all of us here tend to vote with our wallets here on this issue, knowingly or not. the problem is that the big's have the media on their hands to not let the people in need to find out there is a way...

Big money is rapidly destroying our democracy. We need to get big money out of our government.

"Of the people, by the people, for the people". Corporations are not people.



Sent from my easy chair using brain waves.
 

SissySpike

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I really would have liked reading the OP's rant and rave, but I refuse to read walls of text. :facepalm: They hurt my eyes. I'm older and my vision is not as good as it once was. Next time learn to separate paragraphs by hitting the enter button. I do hope you feel better after your vent, though.



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