A thought on "Analogs."

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Ulysses

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Hi folks!

Just wanted to share some of my feelings on the term "analog."

As a newbie to the e-cigarette world and forum, I'm just making some friendly observations that I think may help the cause. First off, I'd like to say that I'm really impressed by the amount of pride exhibited here, at the forum.

Not only are we pro vapor... but we're anti smoke!

That's endearing! Smokers (or former smokers) do care about the world around them and we do want to live healthy lives, in a healthier society.

That's a strong, positive message to send out there! Now, there's a safe alternative to smoking cigarettes available to the public and we're facing abolition from the fu*king FDA.

How many innocent lives are lost, nightly, by the irresponsible acts of motorists while under the influence of alcohol??

What's being done about it?!

Absolut vodka is able to use the images of everyone from Warhol, to the Stones, to Kanye West and nobody seems to be worried about their children becoming alcoholics based on the power of persuasion.

Worried about bubblegum flavored vapor? Gimme a break!

How many flavors of Schnapps are there? No issue with that?

I'm not worried about my infant child growing up to become addicted to e-cigarettes any more than I'm worried about a caffeine addiction.

Alcohol, on the other hand...

We all have our vices. Lung cancer or liver disease (not to mention an entire life down the drain while drinking your way to cirrhosis), these consequences are unacceptable and should raise massive concern.

So, that said, my point may be that we should take a harder stand against "analogs" in order to shine a more positive light on vapors.

So... I vote against referring to tobacco products as "analogs" and would rather call them what they really are... "cancers."

In my line of work, which is music production, the term "analog" is quite a favorable one.

Analog anything is commonly thought of as:

1. Natural
2. Favorable
3. Warm
4. Nostalgic
5. Authentic

This, in my humble opinion, is no way to refer to something that has gripped our lives with the threat of agonizing death, guilt, and financial drain.

The e-cigarette has changed my life. In no way can I condone the use of government regulated tobacco products when such an amazing alternative has been provided in such a cost effective way.

Call it like it is, folks. Analogs are cancers. Are you for them or against them? I, for one, am totally against them.

Stop smoking in America by supporting the electric cigarette.

This could be our mantra. Let's not romanticize big tobacco by referring to it as an "analog"... let's kill it by calling it a "cancer."

Maybe somebody else has a better idea? I'd love to read everybody's thoughts on this. Any good ideas?

Hopefully this correspondence isn't too convoluted. You see where I'm going with this? Maybe the vapors (or e-cigs) shouldn't even be referred to as a "cigarette" either. Seriously. Perhaps it's a better idea to cut all association.

Rather than the vapor merely being perceived as an extension of a dangerous tobacco product, perhaps we need to become more unique and committed to independence.

The black 901 with a blue led is pretty different and futuristic.

In what way does it resemble, aesthetically, a traditional cigarette?

It doesn't. It's not a cigarette at all.

Ok. Open for discussion. Just wanted to send this thought out there.

Thanks!! Keep up the great work and the good fight!

p.s. can't wait to enjoy my vapor next time I'm in NYC or LA. There's two places where big tobacco isn't tolerated what so ever. I'm finally on their side! Whoppee!!
 

Babachoo

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I think you bring up some very good points. I'm an audiophile/engineer/producer/musician so I'm quite familiar with the digital versus analog debate and rarely does digital come out ahead. I think it would be a great idea for us all to brainstorm a bit and try and come up with a better word than "analog" to describe something that is old-school but far from better than its successor. I need sleep before I delve into an endeavor like that though because I just broke my goofymeter a few minutes ago and I don't want to embarass myself further. So hopefully I'll return tomorrow with a fresh mind and more members will have added their two cents.

Let the renaming begin!
 

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I think of the term "analog" as something a bit archaic. A lot of photographers still use film in their cameras, quite memorably and artistically, some of them. That is an art in it's own right. But digital opened the world to many more of us to express our creativity and totally immerse into a whole new world. So film photography is "analog", now it is "digital". Scanning an analog photo into digital.
Handwriting could be called analog, modern graphics technocratical (a new word, I just made that up). Digital, also.
So I guess I would call an e-cig digital technology, the cigarette an analog.
 
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I was going to reply to this after reading it.. but I've sat here staring at the screen for a good two minutes trying to say something that doesn't sound spazzish but I think I'll suffice to say that I, for one, don't look at analogs in a negative light, I truely look at it as not much different than smoking weed. While I know 1 person that is on her deathbed from smoking (while she had other lung diseases) I've known at least 5 people live to be in their 70's + that had been smoking for 50odd years without a single disease at all and the one person that I know that has died from lung cancer, never smoked a day in her life. I'm sorry, but I don't buy all the lung cancer hype... I can see why people would want to quit I can see the negitive effects but all the crap about cancer, I'm sorry I don't buy it, I remember a while back they were trying to say MILK gave you cancer *rolls eyes* i agree with not romanticising the whole thing but I don't believe in being so gung ho to destroy anything either, everything has it's purpose...


but honestly maybe I've just got "b*tch mode" (as my dad likes to call it) on.... I'm quitting for my 3rd time... today.... I haven't had a cigarette in 20 hours and I'm seriously in spaz mode at the moment. So If I offended anyone.. just ignore me... this is just me giving my two cents as intelligently as I can. (mostly trying to destract myself so I don;t go outside and light up.... or burst into tears)
 

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...Call it like it is, folks. Analogs are cancers. Are you for them or against them? I, for one, am totally against them.

Stop smoking in America by supporting the electric cigarette...

>


I try never to refer to my device as an electronic cigarette. The term "cigarette" gives off a negative connotation. I like personal vaporizer or nicotine delivery system, the latter being less accurate as nicotine is not required. It's a PV until somebody coins something better.
 
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Vroya

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I can see your point about how you "translate" the term analog. But the main reason we use that term here is actually quite simple. Our new "cigarettes" are electronic, or put another way "digital".

Put it another way, if you are wearing a wristwatch, you are either wearing an analog (mechanical), or a digital (electronic).

Not sure who started the term analog, but it's an easy way to differentiate the stinky ones from the sweet ones we've grown to love.

Personally I prefer the term "cancer sticks" for the tobacco, paper and fiberglass filtered ones.
 

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I was going to reply to this after reading it.. but I've sat here staring at the screen for a good two minutes trying to say something that doesn't sound spazzish but I think I'll suffice to say that I, for one, don't look at analogs in a negative light, I truely look at it as not much different than smoking weed. While I know 1 person that is on her deathbed from smoking (while she had other lung diseases) I've known at least 5 people live to be in their 70's + that had been smoking for 50odd years without a single disease at all and the one person that I know that has died from lung cancer, never smoked a day in her life. I'm sorry, but I don't buy all the lung cancer hype... I can see why people would want to quit I can see the negitive effects but all the crap about cancer, I'm sorry I don't buy it, I remember a while back they were trying to say MILK gave you cancer *rolls eyes* i agree with not romanticising the whole thing but I don't believe in being so gung ho to destroy anything either, everything has it's purpose...


but honestly maybe I've just got "b*tch mode" (as my dad likes to call it) on.... I'm quitting for my 3rd time... today.... I haven't had a cigarette in 20 hours and I'm seriously in spaz mode at the moment. So If I offended anyone.. just ignore me... this is just me giving my two cents as intelligently as I can. (mostly trying to destract myself so I don;t go outside and light up.... or burst into tears)

Vape away to your hearts content, and just keep telling yourself this has got to work, it is working, I will be clean again. If you haven't done it already, go light up a cigarette. I'm willing to bet you will look at it in a very different light. It will be the most obnoxious thing you ever did, and what was I thinking! You will not be able to smoke it. After 17-18 hours, you have done it. And another thing, you have to have a back-up plan for the inevitable. An extra couple of batteries, always charged, extra juice or carts, and an extra atomizer or two. And always have them with you, where ever you are. These things are perishable. And will perish, guaranteed. But once you have your back-up cushion in place, just relax and know you are prepared, just keep going! And don't be afraid to present yourself in public with this e-cig thing. Thousands of us are with you. I think the "panic" factor is the hardest thing to beat, so preparation will erase that from the picture.
 

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About one week after I "quit" smoking and switched to vaping, I tried a "real" cigarette. I didn't even get two puffs into it. The stink and the taste of ashes overwhelmed me, and I couldn't take any more. A quick rush to the bathroom for a good toothbrushing and mouthwash didn't even help. As I was showering, the thought occurred to me, as much as I used to hate nonsmokers that complained about it, I was becoming one of them myself! What is happening to me?

Seriously, after that one try, I've never gone back, and never will smoke another analog again. Even if (God Forbid) they ban it. I'll find a black market source or quit altogether first.

BTW: I smoked close to 4 packs a day for well over 20 years. This is the 5th serious attempt to quit, and I firmly believe it worked this time.
 

Ulysses

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Hi Ryle.

Thanks for sharing. Well, in all fairness, you're not going to win that fight with the rest of the world. I knew a man who died of lung cancer and lived with emphysema for decades. It was brutal. Trust me on this one.

Smoking tobacco has been abolished in Paris and London. From what I understand, Amsterdam as well. Major smokers once populated these cities.

So, when the world's against public smoking... you've lost the argument.

But, most people don't disagree that smoking causes cancer.

When I was younger, my argument was, "Life causes cancer."

Well, as I've said, I was young.

I'm 34 years old and have been smoking for 15 years (pack and a half, daily).

I can feel it. My lungs hurt. My breath is shorter. I wake up in the morning and feel like Mike Tyson punched my in the chest.

My body tells me that smoking is harmful. I'm just going to listen to my body.

I've smoked the e-cigarette for a week now and I can breathe easy again. The pain's gone. The mornings are easier. I feel healthier.

Just remember, smoking tobacco in the year 2009 is like huffing gasoline; nobody thinks it's a good idea anymore. Don't forget, they once thought that ....... was good for you! I'm sure, whether you've known an addict or not, you can probably agree that it isn't.

Let's not let coffee get banned because ....... isn't good for us.
 

Ulysses

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...Call it like it is, folks. Analogs are cancers. Are you for them or against them? I, for one, am totally against them.

Stop smoking in America by supporting the electric cigarette...

>


I try never to refer to my device as an electronic cigarette. The term "cigarette" gives off a negative connotation. I like personal vaporizer or nicotine delivery system, the latter being less accurate as nicotine is not required. It's a PV until somebody coins something better.

Great Point!!!
 

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Alcohol does not kill people by the way.........idiots kill people. Guns also do not kill people. If you drink and drive and kill someone it is because you chose to do something you couldn't handle. You are a ****ty drinker or a ****ty driver. Don't blame the alcohol. There are hundreds of thousands of ****ty drivers killing people everyday. SOBER.
 

Ulysses

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About one week after I "quit" smoking and switched to vaping, I tried a "real" cigarette. I didn't even get two puffs into it. The stink and the taste of ashes overwhelmed me, and I couldn't take any more. A quick rush to the bathroom for a good toothbrushing and mouthwash didn't even help. As I was showering, the thought occurred to me, as much as I used to hate nonsmokers that complained about it, I was becoming one of them myself! What is happening to me?

Seriously, after that one try, I've never gone back, and never will smoke another analog again. Even if (God Forbid) they ban it. I'll find a black market source or quit altogether first.

BTW: I smoked close to 4 packs a day for well over 20 years. This is the 5th serious attempt to quit, and I firmly believe it worked this time.

Vroya,

Congrats! Wow. That was quite a habit. I'm so happy for you!

I know the feeling: cancer sticks taste like garbage... vapors are awesome!

Well done!
 

Ulysses

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Alcohol does not kill people by the way.........idiots kill people. Guns also do not kill people. If you drink and drive and kill someone it is because you chose to do something you couldn't handle. You are a ****ty drinker or a ****ty driver. Don't blame the alcohol. There are hundreds of thousands of ****ty drivers killing people everyday. SOBER.

Hmmm. I can't get with that logic. I think it's a bit left field.
 

Vroya

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Vroya,

Congrats! Wow. That was quite a habit. I'm so happy for you!

I know the feeling: cancer sticks taste like garbage... vapors are awesome!

Well done!

Thanks

I tried just about everything - the worst being Chantix. Talk about serious mood swings. Even my non-smoking friends wanted me to start back up LOL.

Now I have a fresh new habit to enjoy, one that even my non-smoking buddies accept and support.
 
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