A world of knock offs

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

For what you said in the op, would it matter being as the kgo is a knock off of the ego. You classed all knock offs together, which was my point.

I'm sorry but your missing the point. That's probably my fault.
Say you like Kgo. You know Kgo is made by SLB. Your Kgo last a long, long time. When you decide to buy again and you want Kgo by SLB, who if i remember correctly started in 2007, will you be happy getting "KGO'' by Mascsaa who made their first battery in the summer of 2012.
Who knows, it might be better.

 

[njay23]

I've been wanting to try KGO batteries. Can anyone tell me if i can charge them with my joyetech chargers?

regular kgo uses the same charger

 

[njay23]

I guess the term knock off is relative. I don't consider a KGO a knock off. It is a different (and I think BETTER) battery than a ego. It is a 3.7v battery, Ego is 3.2 I think. So if you always used kgo's and then got an Ego you would think "what a cheap knockoff, it's really weak".

Some people have had trouble with Joytech, some with non joytech so who knows what is better. Just different I guess.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

regular kgo uses the same charger

Thanks njay23, I may try Kgo in the future when my Joyetech start failing, and it is "JOYETECH" , there may be a "JOYTECH" outthere for all i know. I think China loves to confuse us, i saw it on alot of their sites. I never did care if you like Chevy, Dodge or Ford, thats your choice.

 

[grandmato5]

I'm perfectly fine with a product "copying" the Ego and calling itself the Kgo or whatever. I know up front when purchasing that I'm not buying a genuine Ego. My objections come when a product is advertising itself as an Ego and after purchasing I realize I did not purchase a genuine Ego. That goes for all the other products in the vaping world that do the same thing by either copying but being honest that they have copied (I'm ok with that) OR use false advertising by saying they are the genuine deal when they arent to try to get my vaping dollars which makes me unhappy.

Honestly I've found that most often there is very little difference between the real deal and the copy OR the false advertised item but that to me doesn't make false advertising the right thing to do.

 

[NancyR]

I'm sorry but your missing the point. That's probably my fault.
Say you like Kgo. You know Kgo is made by SLB. Your Kgo last a long, long time. When you decide to buy again and you want Kgo by SLB, who if i remember correctly started in 2007, will you be happy getting "KGO'' by Mascsaa who made their first battery in the summer of 2012.
Who knows, it might be better.

talk about missing the point, learn what the term knock off means

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

talk about missing the point, learn what the term knock off means

wow, please educate us with your superior wisdom.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Actually some knock offs like the kgo's are better than the ego's, ego's have a regulated 3.3 volts the kgo's have an unregulated 3.7.

Not saying all are worth it, but don't think they are all bad due to a few rotten apples.

I disagree NancyR, friend.
The KGO has a terrible airhole system that makes it utterly incompatible with Stardusts (not that it matters because I hate stardusts). The other problem is the centerpost connection is incredibly fragile. I broke mine when I was cleaning it out with a paperclip. I had to add an entire section on how to repair KGOs on my blog, the Vaper's Handbook (link in is my signature).

When I first got a real eGo Twist (it's been a while now) I realized how much better it was with an old Stardust I had laying around, as well as other devices.

The only positive thing about a KGO at this point is that it's a real 4.2v device (around 4v under load), compared to the standard eGo (C, T) 3.6v (about 3.4v under load). The new KGO VV is starting to give people problems in the durability department, and I am not sure if it still has the airway problem or not.

If you take a KGO and an eGo side by side you will quickly notice that the vent slots are pretty different.

 

[rlh445]

Man, lately I've been hearing A LOT from uninformed peeps that using e-cigs, 'burned down this,' or 'exploded that,' and stuff like that. I always try to tell them it's overblown and that most of those cases are people who are purposely misusing the products or even creating their own but there ARE cases of products (both 'fake' and real) doing that. I remind them to always unplug their products immediately after they are fully charged and to never leave them in a hot car, etc. All in all though, I've heard nothing but good things about KGOs, even from Phil Busardo so as always, YMMV.

 

[KuroCz]

talk about missing the point, learn what the term knock off means

Like this?
http://www.china-mike.com/wp-content/gallery/fake-chinese-brands/pizza-huh.jpg

Or this?
http://www.china-mike.com/wp-content/gallery/fake-chinese-brands/anamani.jpg

or this?
Chinese-counterfeit-products-18 : theCHIVE

Maybe this is handmade too:
http://photos1.blogger.com/x/blogger/7437/630/1600/301614/rollsroyre2.jpg

These are different than legitimate oem's of course.

 

[ShogaNinja]

I just came here to tell people that I have seen the inside of a number of eGo knockoffs and most times they are the same, even down to the Joye brand battery (there are youtube vids on this fact if you care to look). Trusting in that I recently attempted to save a few bucks and get a knockoff Twist as a backup. When I got it the blasted thing wouldn't twist. I had to take a rubber jar opener and sit there and go back and forth with it to loosen it up to the point of where I can BARELY move it by hand. During this process the amount of friction and heat generated gave me a blister on both my thumb and forefinger. I didn't send it back because I think I can work it loose but my recommendation to you all is get a genuine joyetech twist. The extra money you spend will not be wasted.

 

[NancyR]

I disagree NancyR, friend.
The KGO has a terrible airhole system that makes it utterly incompatible with Stardusts (not that it matters because I hate stardusts). The other problem is the centerpost connection is incredibly fragile. I broke mine when I was cleaning it out with a paperclip. I had to add an entire section on how to repair KGOs on my blog, the Vaper's Handbook (link in is my signature).

When I first got a real eGo Twist (it's been a while now) I realized how much better it was with an old Stardust I had laying around, as well as other devices.

The only positive thing about a KGO at this point is that it's a real 4.2v device (around 4v under load), compared to the standard eGo (C, T) 3.6v (about 3.4v under load). The new KGO VV is starting to give people problems in the durability department, and I am not sure if it still has the airway problem or not.

If you take a KGO and an eGo side by side you will quickly notice that the vent slots are pretty different.

Hey there ShogaNinja, sorry you had problems with the kgo, but you can read throughout the forum where many people love it compared to the ego. And it is an ego knockoff.

 

[ShogaNinja]

I'm sorry but your missing the point. That's probably my fault.
Say you like Kgo. You know Kgo is made by SLB. Your Kgo last a long, long time. When you decide to buy again and you want Kgo by SLB, who if i remember correctly started in 2007, will you be happy getting "KGO'' by Mascsaa who made their first battery in the summer of 2012.
Who knows, it might be better.

This is just my opinion based on real life experience, and a lot of research.

I would avoid KGO for three reasons, two of which I mentioned earlier, but I guess I can repeat.

1: The airflow is terrible on a KGO. The Stardust is almost impossible to vape on with a KGO.

2: They are fragile and the connections inside break easily which will require complicated electronics repair processes beyond most people to repair. Just cleaning out the juice well with a paperclip I accidentally snagged the rubber gasket in there and spun the centerpost and the wire connection snapped with no more than one rotation.

3: The quality has gone down, especially on Hoosier's KGOs, and I have heard of many complaints, foremost of which, that they have died right after the warranty wears out. I have also seen some button and durability issues on the new KGO VV, no word on the airflow, but I guess time will tell. People are HATING the KGO VV button from what I've read. They are dreaming of ways they can modify them to make them better.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

I disagree NancyR, friend.
The KGO has a terrible airhole system that makes it utterly incompatible with Stardusts (not that it matters because I hate stardusts). The other problem is the centerpost connection is incredibly fragile. I broke mine when I was cleaning it out with a paperclip. I had to add an entire section on how to repair KGOs on my blog, the Vaper's Handbook (link in is my signature).

When I first got a real eGo Twist (it's been a while now) I realized how much better it was with an old Stardust I had laying around, as well as other devices.

The only positive thing about a KGO at this point is that it's a real 4.2v device (around 4v under load), compared to the standard eGo (C, T) 3.6v (about 3.4v under load). The new KGO VV is starting to give people problems in the durability department, and I am not sure if it still has the airway problem or not.

If you take a KGO and an eGo side by side you will quickly notice that the vent slots are pretty different.

Thanks for pionting that out ShogaNinja.......i got alot of Vision clearomizers, so maybe i better not think about Kgo for now.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Hey there ShogaNinja, sorry you had problems with the kgo, but you can read throughout the forum where many people love it compared to the ego. And it is an ego knockoff.

Thanks, sweets. I hope life is treating you well.
I wanted to tell you there is another lady here on ECF named Orobas and she makes zebras to sell on SL. You two should hook up and troll.

To clarify my position on this matter (respectfully):
I don't read about that stuff, I own both. I am telling you with my experience. The KGO is alright. Is it better than a real Joyetech eGo Twist? Not even close IMO. It's better than a regular eGo T or C (non variable voltage 3.6v) because it's 4.2v, but that's really all it has. The airflow issue could be fixed with a dremel but people want their stuff to work great out of the box. The airflow issue is a dealbreaker IMO. (sorry, I don't have humility - it's not one of my strengths )

I've taken mine apart (pics and repair guide are in my blog - The Vaper's Handbook (2nd page), link's in my signature) and I can tell you for 100% sure that they are not Joye brand batteries inside and that the connections are so fragile that they hot glue them onto the PCB (printed circuit board) to keep them in place. I am not 100% sure it's even grounded, and I can't find out without completely taking one apart and rebuilding it (Rule#1: ain't broke? don't fix!). Shoddy electronic work only makes it that much harder to repair. That said, my KGO's went 7 months before I had an issue with anything other than the airflow issue, BUT, mine are older (and I got them from DarkCityVapor by the way because I detest the rebranding that Hoosierecigsupply does to their batteries - if you want me to advertise, PAY ME). The latest wave of KGOs (especially from Hoosier) has not been well received, from what I have read.

Be glad you have your BB.
I've had some trouble with eGo styles knockoffs.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Thanks for pionting that out ShogaNinja.......i got alot of Vision clearomizers, so maybe i better not think about Kgo for now.

DiscountVapers.com has the best deal on legitimate Joyetech eGo C Twist replacement batteries right now.
If any of you are considering getting one (I think all vapers should have a Twist in their arsenal) just realize that your old charger (if it's a 510 usb (with our without wall plug adapter)) may be compatible. To verify this look on the label where you screw in the battery. If the output is 4.2v 420mA you are good to go. I can 100% guarantee that it will be suitable. If it is any MORE than that number then you are playing with fire literally if you try to charge it with that. For the record, my KGO charger is exactly that and it works with my Twists.

 

[vsummer1]

Some people might consider me off the wall here...but I have both "genuine Joyetech" eGos and a couple of other brands...including the SLB kGo, BetterLife and Hello brands. The Joyetech is fine ...but it's not THAT "superior" in my opinion. I get better battery life from the BetterLife batteries, and my Hello Twist works just the same as the Joyetech one. As for the SLB kGo...I got mine from Hoosier's e-Cig Supply and they are very solid units. VERY. I also got the kGo version of the VV...which works excellent.

Sometimes Americans put far too much importance on the "brand" of something. If something else has the quality and meets or exceeds the performance of the branded thing....in my mind it's perfectly acceptable. I've not heard of ANY e-cig or mod that is totally immune to failure or burning or whatever. No such critter. Even a cell phone can blow up if overcharged. Just be realistic and you'll be fine.

^ Yeah that. The thing is a disposable battery, will only charge about 250 times. Why pay more when they are basically all the same? It isn't as if you are going to own it for a long time.

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

I just came here to tell people that I have seen the inside of a number of eGo knockoffs and most times they are the same, even down to the Joye brand battery (there are youtube vids on this fact if you care to look). Trusting in that I recently attempted to save a few bucks and get a knockoff Twist as a backup. When I got it the blasted thing wouldn't twist. I had to take a rubber jar opener and sit there and go back and forth with it to loosen it up to the point of where I can BARELY move it by hand. During this process the amount of friction and heat generated gave me a blister on both my thumb and forefinger. I didn't send it back because I think I can work it loose but my recommendation to you all is get a genuine joyetech twist. The extra money you spend will not be wasted.

Thanks again ShogaNinja
Considering not that long ago i read you saying something else, i appreciate your honesty.
I'm very happy with my Joyetech batteries, day 95 and no problems.
As most people, i come here to learn, and if possible, help.

 

[NancyR]

Thanks, sweets. I hope life is treating you well.
I wanted to tell you there is another lady here on ECF named Orobas and she makes zebras to sell on SL. You two should hook up and troll.

.........
Be glad you have your BB.
I've had some trouble with eGo styles knockoffs.

Actually I set the BB up for sis to use, I am strictly using the iHybrid now. And hey I don't troll SL too many wackos, not to mention enough to keep busy there between building and scripting

 

[JUDGMENT AFFIRMED]

For what you said in the op, would it matter being as the kgo is a knock off of the ego. You classed all knock offs together, which was my point.

Show me please?