what do you mean, you cant see it? if you look at this subforum, every single thread is deleted except for this one.
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what i am even more shocked about is that there are not more people who are disturbed by seeing a company delete threads because the company doesnt want anyone to read negative feedback. it doesnt make the company look good. very cowardly. other suppliers have at least had the professionalism to respond and show that they actually care about people's bad experiences or dissatisfaction.
Sorry but this doesn't cut it for some of us. True, IF you got to take advantage of that sale, lucky you. From the sounds of it, greedy would have been all the repeat buyers then. What really ticked me is if I can't trust a vendor to keep their word, they ain't worth squat to me. pb38 said the sale would go until the 21st. It's on youtube and in print. Myself and 3 other guys returned to the states on Dec. 19. I personally called Florida twice, once in the AM and once in the PM on the 19th to verify that the sale would be on the following day,Dec.20. Oh yes I am told, on until the 21st. Us guys would be getting some internet service on the 20th, so we all figured we would all be set to place a big order to take back with us. This was important to us cuz we don't get this chance very often. So....we get internet Dec. 20 - go on line - go to the florida site - and boom right in our faces. Sale is over. No wait, I heard pb38 say until Dec 21 - I read it - I was told via telephone twice. So was 1 of my buddys too. Oh well, too bad, they changed their mind. Sale over - end of discussion. The thread at their forum that someone started complaining about the sale ending before it was suppose to...thread closed. End of discussion again.
So no, we were not greedy pigs. Those that got to make mutiple purchases sure were lucky they think. The tw spokesperson(racy) even on their own forum thread posted that it ended early. So since pb38 can't keep his word, we figure we really maybe lucked out in the first place by not being able to do the sale. We didn't spend over $800 to a place that can't be honest and truthful to their customer base.
When they ban their #1 poster and promoter with almost 5,000 posts, you can bet there is no loyalty to the customers.
Those that have good reports from tw, you're lucky. You are certainly fewer now tho, much fewer.
Why delete over a dozen threads? Cuz you didn't flower accolades on them. Actions speak louder than words. It's obvious the end-users, the customers, don't rate too high. Like already mentioned, this thread will be deleted soon anyway. I guess that's how some handle customer complaints. Delete them.
Too many really excellent vendors that actually listen and handle problems whether publicly or privately to worry about this 1 that doesn't do any of that. I have already moved on and found excellent service elsewhere. I give referrals to my buddies as well. So thank you tw.
I get to go back to "nowhere land" before long. Yep, he accuses those that are relatively new here of "coming out of nowhere". As opposed to coming out of somewhere I guess. Not the type of conduct one would expect from a vendor, but actions speak louder than words. Us guys have learned to live by those words, because actions indeed speak louder than words. We keep our word and we can handle the action.
wow, I had no idea this was all going on. Sounds like a good idea went bad for the company and many customers. Unfortunate.
It's called 'throwing your toys out of the pram', not very professional IMO.
Rosco said it all.............and what a SHAME that Totally Wicked has no heart. These fighting forces have a short two week leave or whatever and want to stock up before going to the sandbox.....if yall had a heart, yall would have GIVEN them their order for misleading them in advertising and doing the bait and switch.
Rosco.........yes, you are right, it was a blessing that you werent able to spend $800 on a TW order.
HOOAH!
Rosco.........yes, you are right, it was a blessing that you werent able to spend $800 on a TW order.
HOOAH!
It sucks it ended early, but if it wasent for that sale i would have never ordered from them because of the prices, and then the shipping charges/time. im really glad i did order from them because after my 5 bottle sample pack i ordered about 100ml of titan fluid and i have another order on the way, plus a full cart with their month long 20% discount. i think their juice is amazing, i just hope the price can come down soon, or at least add free shipping. I think that they would have a lot more business, if at the very least from me 
Just please dont delete this thread pillbox, its really starting to aggravate your customers.
Just please dont delete this thread pillbox, its really starting to aggravate your customers.I've never had a problem with TW's service or anything else from them. I didn't try to get in on the yo-yo sale since I was out of town for the last month and would not have been home to enjoy my order or orders, so don't know anything about that.
I don't even care that there has been so many negative threads made, because I do not go by what others say about a company. If I have good service and nothing has gone bad I will continue to order from that company, no matter what anyone else says. Yes, I even ignore good things that are said about a company too, because when it comes down to it, it's up to the individual customer if they are happy with the products, or how they are treated by customer service to continue doing business with a company.
I do;however, have to admit that I am upset and saddened by the fact that all threads in the past year or so have been deleted. I suppose there could be some reasons for this, as below.
Maybe they were just cleaning up the sub-forum?
Maybe they wanted to get rid of bad publicity.
Perhaps TW is about to announce they are shutting down and going out of business completely?
Or maybe even the one that perhaps makes me angry.. Maybe they've decided to just abandon their customers here on ECF. Yeah, I know it is not something I wish to think about, but it could be possible they just don't care about us anymore and with the bad threads, they don't think we want them around here anymore.
Well, if they can be so heartless to just forget about us here and abandon us, then I guess I would not feel so bad about doing the same to then.. Just forgetting about them and never order from them again, even though I am/was a satisfied customer
It would be nice to have some sort of explination about just what is going on. Do I think one will ever be forthcoming? No, not really since one was not, or has not yet been posted, even a few days after leaving the sub-forum empty of any semblance of life. Maybe their actions are enough explination, but it would be nice to have a clearer one.
I don't even care that there has been so many negative threads made, because I do not go by what others say about a company. If I have good service and nothing has gone bad I will continue to order from that company, no matter what anyone else says. Yes, I even ignore good things that are said about a company too, because when it comes down to it, it's up to the individual customer if they are happy with the products, or how they are treated by customer service to continue doing business with a company.
I do;however, have to admit that I am upset and saddened by the fact that all threads in the past year or so have been deleted. I suppose there could be some reasons for this, as below.
Maybe they were just cleaning up the sub-forum?
Maybe they wanted to get rid of bad publicity.
Perhaps TW is about to announce they are shutting down and going out of business completely?
Or maybe even the one that perhaps makes me angry.. Maybe they've decided to just abandon their customers here on ECF. Yeah, I know it is not something I wish to think about, but it could be possible they just don't care about us anymore and with the bad threads, they don't think we want them around here anymore.
Well, if they can be so heartless to just forget about us here and abandon us, then I guess I would not feel so bad about doing the same to then.. Just forgetting about them and never order from them again, even though I am/was a satisfied customer
It would be nice to have some sort of explination about just what is going on. Do I think one will ever be forthcoming? No, not really since one was not, or has not yet been posted, even a few days after leaving the sub-forum empty of any semblance of life. Maybe their actions are enough explination, but it would be nice to have a clearer one.
Sorry, I guess what I meant to say was that I didn't see what was going on in the threads before they got deleted. Most of the threads that I'd read through were very old, had been resolved, or were just chit-chat, so I just assumed that they were only keeping current threads open. A lot of forums do that.
I'm not defending anything however. I just never saw anything that caused me to be alarmed. Maybe there was something I didn't see, or wasn't a part of. I'm just sharing my experience with them. I'm not going to start talking smack if I have nothing bad to share.
All of the deleted threads will bump to the top of the forum because they have the most recent activity. There are around 60 deleted threads. There are still a lot of open threads: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/totally-wicked-e-liquid/116781-my-sd-mk2-died.html, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...00-theres-some-stuff-floating-my-eliqiud.html, http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/totally-wicked-e-liquid/105198-5-packs-bad-deal.html, and so on. I don't know why the threads that were closed, were closed. I won't just jump to a conclusion though.
I've got my eye on what they're doing, for various reasons, and I'll spend my money where I will, but the company that earns my money will have to treat me like their king because I only support companies that understand they are nothing without their customers and employees. A business must treat both very well in order for me to talk well of them and earn my money, otherwise I will tear them down. And I have torn businesses down. It's not too difficult if there is a legitimate foundation.
Check out the reply I got from Pillbox about the deleted threads: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...11-feedback-response-pillbox.html#post2399143
Or maybe im considering Leaving ECF because of characters like ROSCO and Lodzin. Neither are customers, neither have ever bought... And both claim to be upset the Yo Yo ended early..
As my customers know we treat all with dignity and respect.. but rosco and lodzin have only earned my deepest feelings of disgust.. neither can be believed.. Rosco is a serving soldier, he forgets we have give $7000 to the wounded warrior.. Lots of things get forgotten on this type of anti TW thread.. fact is hardly any of the so called complaints are valid.. Cowardly???Me No...Never.. planet scribbles is another, he was trashing the Yo Yo sales as ridiculous then on twitter begging for big discounts, got them then starts a thread complaining because we asked him to send a defective battery back.. its un believable..
As my customers know we treat all with dignity and respect.. but rosco and lodzin have only earned my deepest feelings of disgust.. neither can be believed.. Rosco is a serving soldier, he forgets we have give $7000 to the wounded warrior.. Lots of things get forgotten on this type of anti TW thread.. fact is hardly any of the so called complaints are valid.. Cowardly???Me No...Never.. planet scribbles is another, he was trashing the Yo Yo sales as ridiculous then on twitter begging for big discounts, got them then starts a thread complaining because we asked him to send a defective battery back.. its un believable..
Welcome to the universe.... For every yin there is a yang.... For every hidy hidy hi there is an equal yet opposite hidy hidy ho...
The day I send TW money and they don't send me product, I will take exception to their behavior... Until then I will base MY opinion on MY experiences with them.
I have no problem with ths supplier.
I do grow tired of people sniveling about opportunities missed, and the excuse of being out of the country is amusing to me, as the Internet works pretty much everywhere. But I accept that just as there will always be people that are happy and satisfied, there will also be folks that are miserable and agry... Go figure.
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You might as well leave ECF after this, Pillbox. Seriously, you've totally screwed the pooch here. Stick to your own little dictated forum, and keep away from those of us that are too educated to buy into your crap.
All good clean ECF fun.. unmoderated and un moderatable.. hence why i believe TW will leave..
lodzin i told you i dont want your custom, now or ever..Lets hope rolygate bans you. You surely need removing..But Hey its ECF anything goes.
lodzin i told you i dont want your custom, now or ever..Lets hope rolygate bans you. You surely need removing..But Hey its ECF anything goes.
You should visit the chat room and see how your customers feel about you. I wish i could say that the business you're going to lose is due to my actions, but you pretty much did it yourself.
You received an ECF PM with dots in it as well??? I'm saving mine as a souvenir!
Lol your ego gets the better of you. You feel your that influential. Lets see if my active customers who know we provide a first class service agree.. I very much doubt it.
Anyone you have influence over i wish not to serve.. You are IMO not worthy of any credibility.
Anyone you have influence over i wish not to serve.. You are IMO not worthy of any credibility.
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