About to give up

[Brandon David]

If you are just starting out learning to build on tanks, I always advise (especially nowadays) to find an OG lemo or lemo drop. It was (and still is) quite possibly the easiest and most forgiving single coil RTA ever made to build on. Very kayfun esque but less likely to flood or leak. It does not have the airflow of a newer tank and is bottom fill but it is almost idiot proof. They can be had very cheap nowadays. They are great tanks to hone in your building and wicking skills.

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[Flawedatdesign]

Well I put it down and came back to it . Figured out all my problems got it all working. been fighting it for 2 days

 

[MudVaper]

Well I put it down and came back to it . Figured out all my problems got it all working. been fighting it for 2 days

I do feel your pain. Almost quit vaping for smoking numerous times because of the constant frustrations.

Smoking was easy and stress free - because I was an expert at it and had given up on worrying about my health decades ago, lol.

 

[smacuser]

B & M's just suck here .

They suck here, as well. Hang tight.

Check out Steam Engine, get a set of these, and check out the video.

 

[Beeker]

Well it boils down to I'm spending a ton on coils and juice. It was actually cheaper for me to smoke and I'm trying to cut that cost down with coils will be DIYing Juice soon.

What's your juice nic level?

 

[KentA]

BTW I burn through roughly 30 ml every 2 days sometimes more sometimes less.

Making your own juice is easier than making your own coils, & probably would save more money.

 

[MudVaper]

Making your own juice is easier than making your own coils, & probably would save more money.

This is true. Especially if you start with an easy recipe you are highly likely to like (say, one flavor that needs little/no steeping time) and graduate into multi-flavor recipes that take a long time to steep.

 

[Douggro]

get the steamcrave rdta v2 or supreme rdta, so easy to build, such a good vape...

A good gauge to work with is 30 gauge and 28 gauge when you are learning.

Well I put it down and came back to it . Figured out all my problems got it all working. been fighting it for 2 days

Got to give the nod to the SteamCrave products with the Velocity-style decks. Mine was the second RBA to work on, after the RBA for a Subtank Mini, and using 28ga Kanthal, I was able to get a decent build and vape on the first try. I did watch some of the vids on YouTube as a guide which helped, especially for the wicking. Yeah, it takes some dexterity and a lot of patience to figure out getting a good build and especially the right wicking for each tank - but once you figure it out, it gets much easier. Mastery of anything requires practice.

 

[Completely Average]

You guys have a strange idea of what is an "easy" deck to build on.

The EASIEST deck to build on is by far the Squape R.

Set your drill bit, pin, or whatever you wrapped your coil around in the groove on the deck and tighten the wires.

Remove the tool, run cotton through the coil, and trim it at the edges of the deck.

And that's all there is to it. It's almost impossible to get wrong.

 

[MudVaper]

You guys have a strange idea of what is an "easy" deck to build on.

The EASIEST deck to build on is by far the Squape R.

Set your drill bit, pin, or whatever you wrapped your coil around in the groove on the deck and tighten the wires.

Remove the tool, run cotton through the coil, and trim it at the edges of the deck.

And that's all there is to it. It's almost impossible to get wrong.

Not so easy on the pocketbook though. Yowie. Wonder if the clones are any good?

 

[Bunnykiller]

what are you looking for in your vape?? Flavor, Nic satisfaction, cloudz???
just about any vape can supply nic satisfaction with a high enuf nic level
Flavor does depend on the coil design and air flow.. lots of great atties out there that can supply flavor from a prebuilt coil set

Cloudz on the otherhand depends on coil build, atty design, inhale technique, and lung capacity...
get any of the 4 wrong and cloudz dont happen...

vaping is vaping, not smoking.. dont expect vaping to be a direct replacement for smoking.. just as you cant expect nic gum to be a direct replacement for smoking....

it would be interesting to know what is missing in your expectation for vaping... what part of it isnt right..

 

[Spencer87]

No one likes a sell out...Nah but I get you man.
i spent 2000$ on ecig stuff... but once you find it it gets cheaper. Honestly, Though , its really your life ...so there is that... would you sacrifice quite a few years for a few bucks. I dont know what youre talking about really though. Buy juice online. Plenty o affordable Places online. Buy wire online. Builds are ot that complicated. look up kuro coilers.... or even not... take a screwdriver, wrap a few wraps, pop it in, tighten it down, fire it, squeeze it, fire it, squeeze it, and strighten it, pop in some of whatever you wanna wick it with and youre good to go...
YOUTUBE.
Tons of tutorials !!!

keep fightin man....

 

[Swamprats]

I was rewarded with News I DID NOT NEED yesterday.

I have done all kinds of stuff here to try and cheapen my vaping which has cost me a bit but I understand investing for the stuff that pays for iis self in the long run. Well i can't get the builds right for the RBA decks or My RDA. With or with out the jigs. I'm going to just sell out and smoke I think It's cheaper actually than juice and equipment and I can always find a light and I roll my own smokes lol. I'm just to that point and the B & M's just suck here .

If your sucess banner says you have been vaping for a month and 16 days means your not smoking either, then you must be doing something right. I'm not the person to give anybody advice on quitting smoking, I have been "quitting" for the last 2 years. I just want to say if you haven't smoked in over a month I'm proud of you. Me I'm going to think about what crxess said and try to use that for some extra motivation.

 

[Frenchfry1942]

I often see newcomers looking to switch from cigs to vaping and expecting the same convenience. No, it doesn't have that. Big Tobacco made cigs to be as convenient as possible. Pull one out, light it. Just so many nasty chemicals.

Vaping is different. Their are many directions to go and that can be suddenly a bit overwhelming. It just took me a bit of patience. I was using Nautilus clearomizers, several, when I got a Kayfun. That was a big step for me. Anyway, I stayed with the vendor coils in the Nautilus while I tried building the Kayfun. A bit frustrating because my eyes and fingers don't work as well as they used to. But, I got a jeweler's headset for $25 on Amazon, a pair of 3.00 reading glasses at Walmart and kinda learned to use my hands better. It was okay. Frustrating in the process, but okay. I thought about just staying with the clearomizers (Nautilus), but I wanted to build for myself. Nothing fancy, just in the .9-1.0 ohm range. People said that 28 gauge was about the easiest to work with, so I got a role of that. I had the tools in a Tupperware case. Anyway, when everything arrived, I just started practicing making coils. The good coils I saved.

A bit of patience, a bit of watching YouTube, AND, still using simpler clearomizers in the process. Kinda funny in that after a week of practice, I was buying more RBAs because I wanted to switch entirely. I just stayed with Kayfuns as my first 3 RBAs, but I branched out into other "simple" RBAs and simple builds learning about different wire and builds. I watched YouTube videos to learn how to build those RBAs.

It all worked fine if I kept it simple and not required it to be perfect at first. Just some patience.

Good Luck!!

 

[Robino1]

You guys have a strange idea of what is an "easy" deck to build on.

The EASIEST deck to build on is by far the Squape R.

Set your drill bit, pin, or whatever you wrapped your coil around in the groove on the deck and tighten the wires.

Remove the tool, run cotton through the coil, and trim it at the edges of the deck.

And that's all there is to it. It's almost impossible to get wrong.

O. M. G.
That is one of the hardest parts, for me. Keeping everything lined up while tightening the tiny screws.

This is genius! Tootle puffing allowed? Is it truly a 5ml tank? Stainless steel construction?

Damn....now you got me looking at other stuff. I was happy with my kayfun...

 

[90VG]

I don't know man... I used to do organic tobacco, whole leaf, 50 cigs a day. Rolled my own with papers, not tubes. Cost was around $80 a month. And it was the best stuff you can get. Vaping is cheaper, way cheaper. I can also go hiking, running for a damn long time. I feel great vaping.

Cost wise... I just bought 30 years worth of nicotine base yesterday for $80, plus 2 liters of PG/VG and another flavor. (So that's Feb's $80) Then I bought 2 more Subtank Mini's and another TFV4 and some cotton, and 15 glass replacements, that was $80 (January's money). Oops, and then the Smok R200 - I'm over budget... I'm not saving any money at all! What's wrong! Haha.

Actually, I'm way ahead of the game. I would have purchased a new tobacco shredding device, probably 5000 more papers or some new filters. Maybe I'd splurge and pick up some exotic leaf. And then the lighters, all the time spent cleaning up ashes. All the time spent outside or doing nothing while smoking. Even if I am spending more money on vaping, I'm doing it by choice. I could easily survive with my Sig30Mini and Subtank mini. It works. There is no way vaping couldn't be cheaper than actually buying cigs locally, which is around $5.60 a pack for generics. (Around $13 a day or $400 a month.)

I also don't have the indirect costs of smoking, such as a monthly fee for a dating service. Usually have to find a new woman after I chuck lung cookies across the bed at night. Don't have that problem anymore either.

As far as coil building goes, it took me about 3 months to be able to figure out what coil I like the best, and to be able to make it reliably. What's my favorite? 4x 32 gauge twisted 2.5-3mm diameter, .5-7 ohm. The more messed up it looks, (hairball) the better it vapes. (You can even twist the wires by hand.) Easy build, goes in the subtank mini (or subtank plus) RBA. 1 week, then rewick. 2-4 weeks, recoil. It's cheap, it works great (even at 36 watts!)

All in all, I spend less time messing around with coils and wicks than I did shredding tobacco in a pasta machine. Less mess too.

Good luck, and don't give up.

 

[pappcam]

Seems to me that again this is a case of someone going straight into advanced vaping instead of keeping it simple off the start. Buy a starter kit that includes a battery and tank with replaceable coils. These are much easier to use and don't guzzle juice. In the beginning it should always be about replacing smoking and not about cloud chasing.

 

[Flawedatdesign]

Seems to me that again this is a case of someone going straight into advanced vaping instead of keeping it simple off the start. Buy a starter kit that includes a battery and tank with replaceable coils. These are much easier to use and don't guzzle juice. In the beginning it should always be about replacing smoking and not about cloud chasing.

Not going right into advanced Vaping but trying to be more cost effective as I stated in a few places I walked away and came back to it a few hours later and got all I need to get done done. Watched a few you tube videos and watched a few live builds and just relaxed a bit and went back to it.

Now for the Smoking Break Down

For me to smoke analogs for 2 weeks it costs me $44 so figure $88 a month AT 60+ a day for me and 20 or so for the better half

Now the Vaping Break Down If I get cheap Juice I go through a 30 Mil Bottle in close to 2-3 days. so lets make it 60 Mil a week $18 plus for a total of $72 a month The you factor in the coils for the Tanks Which I don't go through as many I replace mine about every 2 weeks so that's $12 for me and then the better half a coils a week if not 2 lol . But we will go with 1 coil a week at $4 for her coils so another $16 . So looking at $100 a month.
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I'm not going to figure in equipment as I don't have to buy anything else unless I want to
So I'm saving a whole $12 after totaling it all up. I think I'll be okay with that as I had never really broke it down before.

BUT now that I have figured out my coils I'm set and That's going to save as I don't need to make all the fancy wraps. I just need vapor and flavor to curb the smoking.

P.s. Thanks for letting me vent a bit guys and not just scream your just wanting attention I wasn't really looking for attention I was needing ideas on what to do and waiting on the replies and seeing a few replies helped me step back and stop stressing over what I was doing so To all that Replied THANK YOU!

 

[Rocketpunk]

You get out of vaping what you put into it.

Starting off the bat with an RDA is definitely not the recommended route. I know how to drive a car, but I don't know how to fix an engine. RDA's require research and trial and error. I'd recommend trying again with something more simple, like a 40 watt iStick and a Nautilus or a simple sub-ohm tank like the Atlantis v1 and the Melo v1.

Nothing is easier than lighting up a smoke and then flicking it away when you're done. And if that's your choice, that's your choice. But there are options. It's up to you to make them work.

I have done all kinds of stuff here to try and cheapen my vaping which has cost me a bit but I understand investing for the stuff that pays for iis self in the long run. Well i can't get the builds right for the RBA decks or My RDA. With or with out the jigs. I'm going to just sell out and smoke I think It's cheaper actually than juice and equipment and I can always find a light and I roll my own smokes lol. I'm just to that point and the B & M's just suck here .

 

[Beeker]

Well that's unfortunate...I hope you can find some other way to keep off the smokes. At least try to cut back if you can.