Advice for new vapers, skip the eGo battery kits.

[madesorgo]

Alright so I chose smoking a PV to quit my chewing habit and I have been chew free for almost a month now. I originally got a Blu ecig kit and it completely died. I stumbled here looking for a better option and ended up getting a regular eGo battery kit with a Vivi Nova. Don't get me wrong, the eGo battery was ten times better than the Blu ecig but I wish I knew what I know now. So here is my advice to all you new guys/gals out there... skip the eGo battery kits and go straight for an APV mod! It's not too expensive nor complicated and gave me an awesome vaping experience. My biggest thing is it reduces my cost of vaping. The batteries are replaceable. When an eGo dies you need to spend another $25 on a twist where the 18650's can be purchased locally or online for 1/5 of the cost (not to mention one battery lasts me 3 days with a full charge). Also with short protection you can buy a coil of wire for a few bucks and make coils for pennies on the dollar. Here are the links to the items with prices:

Vamo @ $31.48
Panasonic CGR18650CH batteries x 2 @ $9.98
Nitecore i2 charger @ $14.06

Total is $55.52 which is almost the same as a two battery eGo kit and even less than some kits at websites. You need to use coupon code "CPASTE13SPRING" to get the prices mentioned about. They also have a slew of atomizers and they have crazy cheap prices. Vivi Nova's for less than $4. I went with two Cisco 306 1.5's for dripping and now using a Kanger ProTank. The flavor is almost as good as dripping which I couldn't believe. I am really posting this because so many people keep suggesting the eGo systems and built-in battery types and the Vamo isn't really suggested for beginners. Yes they are simple and basic to use but the Vamo is not complicated at all, easier to use than an eGo twist. Also it is basically the same price as a Joye eGo twist kit. I honestly wish I got the Vamo from the get go and saved myself some money. The only trick is figuring out what tank system you may want to use and adjusting the voltage (just adjust for taste/vapor and search for your atomizer here and what voltage to run). I just wanted to share my experience and advice to all of the new vapers out there. You can get an APV mod for a low costAlso a note, FastTech does ship out from Hong Kong but I received my items in about 9 days and it is FREE international shipping. Order yourself one today instead of your eGo kit. The Vamo should be every beginners PV in my opinion but then again that is my opinion and my preference of choice. Also if you want a ProTank at a good price check out iVape.net for the ProTank at $14.99 .

PS: great liquids and prices at valuevapor.com, very fast shipping as well.

Edit: If you don't read the 3 pages, ok it is good to have an eGo, lots of good opinions and information for beginners . But still I preach if cost is a concern, do your research on VV and a mod will be your PV of choice to save some money in the LONG run heh. At least in my opinion .

Edit: Changed the title to say consider the Vamo for a first PV. For people who are technically inclined and love to tinker they will be happier at least I was. This is not to put anyone off from e-cigs especially new people. And I still think people are making VV more complicated than it really is! If you can use a cell phone, especially a smart phone, then you can use an APV like the Vamo. Smartphones these days are way more complicated than adjusting voltage . Heck if you can use Windows 8 easily then you can definitely adjust voltage. Ugh Windows 8 is garbage!

 

[Myrany]

That is how it worked for you. Here is my story.

Started with Ego-Cs. Bought a Vamo. Still used my Ego-C batterys more. Bought a Gripper. Still Use my Ego-C Batterys more.

Some people just LIKE the smaller form factor and simple use.

Don't get me wrong I am happy you found something that works for you. Just don't assume everyone is the same.

 

[cjboboy]

I too started with the blu, then the ego starter. I would have save a lot of money if I would have just bought a vamo with an rda..

 

[InTheShade]

A vamo is a great starter kit for sure - but some people want cig-a-likes regardless of the performance. I've seen some posters on here with more than 2 years saying they love their cig-a-like and won't even try an ego battery.

Plus if people start with an ego battery and clearo / tank / carto, then they will have a backup for when their vamo smashes into the concrete parking lot and breaks into a billion shards of chrome plated brass.

Also, some prefer a mod they can plug in and charge, not have to remove the batteries. Others prefer something they don't have to adjust, something to just screw a carto in, and vape. Others don't like the rattlesnake noise the vamo makes, the smoothness of the SS, the way the finish wears off the gunmetal or the heaviness of it, or the way it looks, or the fact that you can't put it on a lanyard without risking a broken neck.

I have a vamo and love it, I would just not recommend a one-size fits all approach to vaping. Not trying to pee on your parade, I enjoyed your post, just think it worth pointing out that not everyone will find a vamo a good device to start with.

 

[madesorgo]

I can understand the form factor and it is a matter of personal opinion but I don't know if it is just me but I have a much better vaping experience with my Vamo. It's a little big, heavier, but I keep it in my change pocket in my pants heh. It fits in just snug and goes with me everywhere conveniently . Even at work it doesn't get in my way but that's assuming it will fit in your little change pocket easily . I still think a lot of people will want to have one and just trying to help those people out like me, regretting not getting my Vamo first place heh.

Edit: And I didn't mean for it to be offensive if anyone took it that way, just trying to help out some people who may be like me

 

[Susiejo]

Sounds like a good deal. I started out with a Tsunami kit but when I have to money I want to switch to a vv battery.
Has anyone else done business with FastTech?
What type threading does the Vamo have? Kinda looks like 510 but I'm not sure.

I recently bought a Protank at a local store and I love it so much that I just ordered 2 more from ivape. They should be here on Monday.

~Susiejo

 

[InTheShade]

I can understand the form factor and it is a matter of personal opinion but I don't know if it is just me but I have a much better vaping experience with my Vamo. It's a little big, heavier, but I keep it in my change pocket in my pants heh. It fits in just snug and goes with me everywhere conveniently . Even at work it doesn't get in my way but that's assuming it will fit in your little change pocket easily . I still think a lot of people will want to have one and just trying to help those people out like me, regretting not getting my Vamo first place heh.

how big is your change pocket Even in shorty mode it must be what, 5 or 6 inches long? (I am too lazy right now to actually measure mine)

It's cool, like I said, I don't think anyone was trying to say you are wrong - the vamo is a good device for the price, it just might not be for everyone - esp new vapers.

 

[Myrany]

Sounds like a good deal. I started out with a Tsunami kit but when I have to money I want to switch to a vv battery.
Has anyone else done business with FastTech?
What type threading does the Vamo have? Kinda looks like 510 but I'm not sure.

I recently bought a Protank at a local store and I love it so much that I just ordered 2 more from ivape. They should be here on Monday.

~Susiejo

Many many people deal with fasttech. Great prices but shipping takes awhile. On the other hand they do take paypal which is nice.

Vamo has both 510 and ego threading though I find for the ego threading using a 510 to ego adapter works better with some devices as the ego threading on the vamo is recessed so some devices don't fit.

 

[Beerbrah]

I started with a Ego-C Twist a friend gave to me and have been contemplating on whether or not to get a Vamo or just more Ego-C's. I have a small Ego-T for backup but it doesnt really hit like the Ego-C does. so that is where my dilemma is. I think I would be perfectly happy with just having Egos, but at the same time I think I need to try someone elses Vamo to see if I am missing anything or not.

 

[Thraxxy]

Sounds like a good deal. I started out with a Tsunami kit but when I have to money I want to switch to a vv battery.
Has anyone else done business with FastTech?
What type threading does the Vamo have? Kinda looks like 510 but I'm not sure.

I recently bought a Protank at a local store and I love it so much that I just ordered 2 more from ivape. They should be here on Monday.

~Susiejo

It's 510 threading.

Fasttech is a great company.

It takes about 10 days to get your item from Hong Kong, though.

The Vamo is definitely a good device for the money.

I still use my ego batteries sometimes as well. I use them less than my tiny 18350 mechanicals though.

 

[Str8nitro]

I have ego twists, Vision spinners and regular egos and I still find myself using my 510 auto batteries with nano tanks the most.

 

[madesorgo]

I edited the original post, I didn't want to offend anyone ha. Basically more what I meant is that the eGo or built-in battery kits are always suggested to beginners and I havn't read many "beginner needs advice" posts with people suggesting the Vamo. Me personally, the Vamo is a really simple device and I think it is a great mod for beginners. Again didn't want to step on anyone's toes and it is my suggestion that the Vamo can be a very good beginner device .

 

[madesorgo]

Susiejo, I was a little skeptical of FastTech at first, but a member reinforced how great they were and that they were legit. I honestly have been ordering a lot of my stuff from them lately and even getting kits for my family and a few friends. It does get shipped from Hong Kong but it's by far the fastest shipping from China I have ever had. It took 9 days from when I put my order in to delivery. It took a day or two to ship the item. Once it shipped, it went from Hong Kong to Lago Vista, TX in 5 days. Not bad especially considering I saved about $30 than if I went for a US based website.

As for my change pocket, it goes right up under the vaping button on the Vamo, say 3 inches or so? Enough so that it won't fall out and it's really only an inch taller than my 1000mAh eGo twist with XL drip tip. Granted I am not lifting stuff or on the move all the time but it is in there securely and doesn't move a bit hehe. In the short stack mode it would fit to about the voltage adjustment buttons. I literally take it with me everywhere and I get stopped a lot with "what is that thing?!" or for other people with PV's "where did you get that?" Especially in Austin, there are a lot of people vaping downtown.

Beerbrah, the Vamo is just a step up in my opinion. One of the biggest things is the fact you can replace the batteries. When your twist dies, you need to spend another $25 for another twist. I got two 2250mah batteries for $10. When the battery dies I simply replace it for 1/5 the cost. It really depends on what atomizer setup you are using too. Depending on the battery, you may use a VV like a twist or standard battery that will usually run at 3.4v. Like you said you have a twist and can use a low resistance atomizer but it's limited to 4.8v so if you want to use a higher ohm like 3ohm coil being able to go up to 6v is nice (I have a 3.1ohm atomizer and I just couldn't get much vapor like I can from my 1.5ohm Cisco 306 or from my Vamo). Also I didn't think the twist has short protection, you don't want to use a RBA or RDA. Benefit from rebuilding your coils is it is dirt cheap. A few bucks for some wire and you can make hundreds of coils where a new coil/atomizer can cost you $5-$15 depending on what you get. So really it comes down to what do you want to do with it? If you are just happy smoking 1.5-2.5 ohm coils awesome, twist will work fine. If you want to create your own coils to reduce the cost of vaping, use 3.0ohm or higher that's when you will really benefit from the Vamo (plus being able to easily replace batteries is a huge plus and reduces cost even more).

 

[Myrany]

I edited the original post, I didn't want to offend anyone ha. Basically more what I meant is that the eGo or built-in battery kits are always suggested to beginners and I havn't read many "beginner needs advice" posts with people suggesting the Vamo. Me personally, the Vamo is a really simple device and I think it is a great mod for beginners. Again didn't want to step on anyone's toes and it is my suggestion that the Vamo can be a very good beginner device .

It can be. However, it also can be surprisingly complicated and large if the beginner is not expecting it. Many people just starting out flat say they want as close to a cig feeling as possible. The Vamo is great. Like I said I have one and I do use it, it just isn't even close to a cig feeling.

In my case I find it too heavy and slippery to use while driving. Hence my fall back onto the Ego batterys. At home in front of the computer I use all my devices Vamo included.

You didn't step on any toes at all. We are merely providing another viewpoint for any newbies that might be reading is all.

 

[Susiejo]

Many many people deal with fasttech. Great prices but shipping takes awhile. On the other hand they do take paypal which is nice.

Vamo has both 510 and ego threading though I find for the ego threading using a 510 to ego adapter works better with some devices as the ego threading on the vamo is recessed so some devices don't fit.

I was just wondering because I have several CE5 clearos and 3 Protanks so I want something that will work with them. I don't want to reinvest in alot of new tanks just because I get a new battery. I don't have that kind of "loose change" lying around.
I do like that they take Paypal also.
Thanks for the info!

~Susiejo

 

[Beerbrah]

I know a ton of people recommend Fasttech, but I just have a question about how the Vamo holds up. Some have said that they got theirs and have had no problems whatsoever and then others have said that it crapped out within days/weeks. What have yalls experience been?

 

[Myrany]

I was just wondering because I have several CE5 clearos and 3 Protanks so I want something that will work with them. I don't want to reinvest in alot of new tanks just because I get a new battery. I don't have that kind of "loose change" lying around.
I do like that they take Paypal also.
Thanks for the info!

~Susiejo

I use an adapter with my CE5s. I can make them fit without but it is a much snugger fit than I am comfy with given the problems with stripped and broken threading the Vamo is famous for. In fact I try to always use an adapter on it. That way I am screwing and unscrewing devices to it and not the Vamo.

 

[Myrany]

I know a ton of people recommend Fasttech, but I just have a question about how the Vamo holds up. Some have said that they got theirs and have had no problems whatsoever and then others have said that it crapped out within days/weeks. What have yalls experience been?

I've had mine about 6 weeks and no problems BUT

I use an adapter so I am not overworking the threads which are famously temperamental on the Vamo

 

[Beerbrah]

I've had mine about 6 weeks and no problems BUT

I use an adapter so I am not overworking the threads which are famously temperamental on the Vamo

That may have been one of the things I read that was a concern, but it seems you have fixed that problem.

 

[SeaTownLassy]

I just tried fitting my Vamo in my little change pocket and its fine so long as I don't sit down....

Some beginners though, might prefer to get a cigalike or an eGo for a "trial period"....what if they buy an APV as their first purchase butfind out that vaping just isn't their thing? Of course they could just sell the APV, but for some, having to learn what wattage to use with which resistance or learning about RBA's...it might just not be their thing.

Personally I love my Vamo, but I credit the cigalikes and eGo batts for allowing me to slowly upgrade and appreciate each "step". And besides, I carry eGo batts and cheap clearos for when I'm out and about the town...I'd hate to lose my Vamo or MVP and Protanks at a bar or something.